Alex Smith has a few good years left in him. So do not draft a QB just yet.

When do we get to see one of these "good years"?

get out.

The idea that everyone wants to take a Corner with a blown Achilles so early, in an incredibly deep cb class, is one of the most odd things.

He's not going to get any work till after camp, won't know shit in result and will take another year beyond that to really bounce back. That's what we want from our 2nd round pick?

When KC get serious and surrounds him with some weapons. :D

People shouldn't be surprised if Foster isn't healthy at the start training camp. Minimum of 6 months recovery for his shoulder if all goes well. (Assuming it just wasn't a debridement).

Dude's connected for 73 touchdowns in just 61 games since he has been our starter. Couldn't even find a WR for one TD for one full season.

Yep! QB is not a need in Kansas City.

It's almost as if that post was a troll.
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I know. I just thought I'd feed him a bit.

The latest reports that I have seen suggested that Sidney Jones expects to be ready by the start of the season, but to be on the conservative side I would guess he wouldn't be a starter type player til mid-season.

For a 2nd round pick, I think that's definitely worth it if he is as good as he was projected to be.

Uh....good for Sidney.

Guy blew out his achilles 5 weeks ago. The season will start less than 6 months from the date of his injury.

Get the **** outta here, Sidney.

Maybe he starts on the PUP, gets moved to the IR with a 'designated to return' tag and can be back by week 12 or something. Maybe. But c'mon - the kid's not coming back from a ruptured achilles in 6 months to play CB as a rookie. A lineman would have a damn hard time even approaching that timeline.

He's almost certainly a 2017 write-off. Anybody that tells you otherwise is selling something.

Not taking him in 2nd. 3rd, yes.

Wouldn't consider it till Saturday.

I would absolutely take Sidney Jones in the 2nd round, it's basically a first round pick in 18 with using a 2nd round pick. Like you said its a deep draft for cb so I'd draft two anyways. Also, we're not winning shit in 17 because of Alex Smith to I'm fine with him sitting and spending a year with our coaches.

ROFLROFLROFL

**** I'm glad I abandoned this place the second Smiff was done ruining our season 4 months ago. I can't take this stupidity again until September. :D

*readies a custom Mahomes Chiefs jersey on NFL.com*

*hovers over Submit button*

.....soooooo, should I click orrrrrr.....what?

Hell no

Chances that Mahomes falls to us ... minimal
Chances that we take Mahomes even if he falls to us ... minimal

double minimal ... odds are shite


unless you can cancel it without losing any cash, then knock yourself out. :)

:facepalm:

Do it....Do it...Do it... Do it...

Only if you're the kind of guy that uses your own tears to masturbate with...

We almost have to trade up at this point.

Everyone knows we're looking at Mahomes, if we want him he'll go a few picks ahead of us or late teens so he doesn't get that far.

If we stay put we're taking BPA, which is nice and all but it doesn't make a splash that the organization needs to excite the fan base.

If we trade down we get more picks which we don't really need unless it's for next years draft which ... yeah.

It's time for us to be aggressive, I'd rather sacrifice one or two of our 10 picks to go up and get the player we want. Even if Dorsey bombs the pick, if it's Mahomes I don't think it'll cost him much flak. At that point it's on Andy to mold him correctly and the rest of the team to keep him upright.

We either believe there's a legit QBOTF this year and go get him or we trade down and build up the team in one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years to prepare for one next year.

This is the choice we have to make...

If we don't take a QB, we had better take an EDGE guy. If we don't take a pass rusher, we had better take a corner. If we don't take any of those three, whomever we do take better end up an all-pro at his position.

At this point, I'm fully prepared to throw my hands in the air and yell WHAT THE **** to the skies after our pick.

If we don't take a QB, my money is on edge or CB.

Tyus Bowser and Chidobe Awuzie are who I think Dorsey would like

Hopefully he'll be able to get Cleveland to a respectable 8-8 average for the rest of his career after Thursday night's trade.

Another year of CP getting hyped on the QB train; another year the Chiefs probably draft someone completely off the radar at a different position. I'll believe it when I see it. Otherwise, it's just a recipe for disappointment.

He gets it...

DE, 4th round grade no one ever heard of....

Wait...that's just by trained abuse response....Carl isn't our step dad any more.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/02/incredulous.gif

Every time I see your name it reads Kielbasa. :D

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Talking to some teams, hottest names right now: Haason Reddick &amp; Christian McCaffrey.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/857034423010766852">April 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Poker,poker,poker,poker !!!

BOOM !! :clap:

Not to be persnickety with you but in reality nobody knows anything about anybody, PERIOD !! All this talk is coming from draft pundits who supposedly have their supposed insiders from all the teams and it is major poker time !!!

Thursday night will prove it as well.;)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Latest I&#39;m hearing...might see a run on QBs, but it&#39;ll be late 1st not top 15. Chance only 1 QB in top 15. Then 3-4 go late 1st.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/857036691906981890">April 26, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You know as well as I do these teams use guys like Jeremiah to bluff. He is just as much in the dark as we are. But hey it is fun though !!!:thumb:

This would be awesome. I think I would still move up a bit and get the QB of choice at the start of that run of 3 to 4. Staying put might not only miss out teams already in front, but I could see the top of the 2nd teams trying to leap frog us too.

If that's the case Denver would be in a prime position to trade down. If McCaffery and Njoku are gone I wouldn't mind trading down.

I ****ing knew it. All this talk about the QB's at the top is smoke.

Here is another bold prediction which I hope doesn't happen. But i say Mahomes goes before Trubisky.:hmmm:

Thank god, I do not want Mccaffrey

Interesting note here:

Paxton Lynch agent who said Chiefs tried to trade up for Lynch: Leigh Steinberg
Pat Mahomes agent....Leigh Steinberg

Bill Polian just told Adam Teicher he is a dumbass for picking Mahomes in the mock draft.


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Talk about two irrelevant football personalities....

I just hope Reddick is gone before Denver and Oakland.

That guy is going to be an outstanding player.

I respect your football knowledge, but I completely disagree with any/all evaluations of Reddick that peg him as an elite player.

What is he?
4-3 DE?
3-4 ILB?
3-4 OLB?
SS?

I see poor instincts, bad pursuit angles, pile watching and slow eyes.
Tons of athleticism and some impressive splash plays, but his football iq is lacking.

I hope I'm wrong for Reddick's sake, but I see a Vernon Gholston here.

How credible is he?

It's bullshitting time before the draft

Better QB class than last year

Taking and RB in the top ten is a waste. You can get the same guy after round 1. McCafrey is going to his ass kicked in the NFL. Founette's style is almost dead in the NFL. Once he bangs up his knee or something like it the little biting speed he has will be gone and he'll be useless.

Cowboys disagree.
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C'mon, dude. You're smarter than this. This is a really dumb post.

Mixon is the best running back in this draft. Fournette runs too upright and Mccaffrey is a 3rd down back because he is too weak.

FYP...i told you already KC wanted no part of that doifus

I will die laughing if Horsey pisses away a first on McCaffrey ROFL

Poor man's, taller version of Woodhead

Did you watch him at Stanford? Jesus.... he is no danny woodhead. I personally want the Chiefs to draft him.

JFC that would be an abomination.

If Mccafrey can line up in the slot like Edelman then there's value to him. But burning more than an early-mid 2nd round pick on him seems like a reach. ILB's in the NFL are a whole different breed than college players, I honestly believe his effectiveness as a RB is limited.

I disagree. Stigma of a white skill player. We'll see.

One "national scout" told NFL Network's Ian Rapoport that Cal QB Davis Webb has "Dak [Prescott]-like intangibles."

Webb's buzz is growing as we close in on draft night, and Rapoport says he "wouldn't be surprised" if Webb comes off the board in Round 1, with the fifth-year team option for first-rounders likely playing an important role in that decision. Webb has been linked to the Browns at No. 33 overall if they miss out on Mitchell Trubisky. We'll likely see a handful of QBs taken Thursday night.

Come on Meat. This guy's vision, balance, stop-start acceleration, and agility are incredible. He could start as a WR if a team wanted him to, he's that good at it.

Teams like Philly and KC, as an example, are going to love this kid because of how much they like to get their backs to the perimeter on outside zone and stretch plays.

I don't see him as Danny Woodhead, I see him as Marshall Faulk/Tiki Barber.

FWIW, the local radio station here is doing a call in mock w/beat writers from each team.

Dave Skreta just picked Deshaun Watson for the Chiefs.

The thing I can't stand about McCaffrey is his father. Not because he was a Bronco, that's just a cherry on top, but because they're both completely full of themselves, like they're God's gift to football. There's certain players that deserve to have an ego, or swagger, because they back it up, but I have a feeling of Peyton Hillis with McCaffrey, maybe a year or two of good Fantasy numbers, but a mediocre career at the end of it all. He'll make the cover of Madden due to fan vote and then get an injury afterwards and he'll never be the same.

I can see Watsons haters now " 26 other teams passed on him so he must not be good"

Watson and Mahomes would both breathe life into this franchise.

Both would be guys that would bring excitement like we haven't seen before.

If both are gone before we pick, they should load the defense up to pitch shutouts and kill QBs...punt the QB position till next year, maybe trading down to load up next year.

Peyton Hillis? Are you ****ing kidding me? So far I've seen him compared to Danny Woodhead, Welkah and Peyton ****ing Hillis? Who is next... hmm. Bart Starr? He was white. Oh. JOHN RIGGINS... well, because, yeah, well... we covered that.

All bullshit aside, this guy is a superb athlete not some stiff FB turned HB... I think you'll all be surprised.

Injuries are the biggest concern about McCaffrey for me.

He is quick as ****, no wasted movements.

I would sooner compare him to Tyreek Hill than Peyton Hillis.

Yup. 6.57 3-cone is no joke. Hill had a 6.53 for reference.

He would be a luxury for us but I would take him in a heartbeat.

Everyone in KC loves Tyreek Hill, imagine having 2 of them on the field at the same time.

Hill
McCaffrey
Kelce
Maclin (hopefully the productive Maclin)
Ware (for some power to keep defender inside)

That's an offense that fits Andy Reid perfectly.

Lots of gadgets with tons of YAC.

I think Reddick's issue, at least as you see it in terms of IQ, has been that he's rarely being used in a concrete roll. He was asked to do so many things at so many different times that he never got truly comfortable doing any of them, at least not on the mental side.

So he went out there and on pure athleticism and repetition was able to make himself a credible football player pretty much anywhere he played. Now take that base and put it in a single position and you'll see it explode.

Put him at either 4-3 OLB spots and you'll get a great player; someone that can rush the passer if asked and is comfortable in space due to his time in the middle. He may be just a tick stiff for the Sam but I think he could wreck shit in the Will in a 4-3.

In a 3-4 I'd love to see him attempted as a true Mike. He could be similar to Bobby Wagner in that he'd be comfortable in coverage but has the skills and technique to provide a credible threat to rush the passer.

But it's ironic given the news today that the guy he REALLY reminds me of is Daryl Washington. Washington, before he was suspeded, really was a do-it-all linebacker. Before his suspension, I thought Washington was among the best, most versatile interior linebackers in football. There wasn't anything he couldn't do on a football field. I think Reddick, if he ends up in the interior, can build on an extremely broad foundation to become on of the best inside linebackers in the game.

Keep that focus on QB; nothing else matters.

I think his rise and fall will be similar, a flash in the pan, to Peyton Hillis. Not his body size.

Why would anyone be surprised..the myth that "white" players can't compete is pure BS.

Just think fellas...24 hrs from now we'll be at pick 4 of the first round.

They can absolutely compete. But not at RB.

Why the hell have we not seen a truly successful white RB in the league since Riggins? That was 1984.

Do they choose to not play the position? They play all kinds of athletic positions like LB, DB, DT, OT, and WR, and they do just fine. Why not RB? What's their problem?

Teams clearly aren't racist towards them and selecting black guys for the sake of their skin color. So why haven't we seen a good white feature RB in forever?

It's not a ****ing myth. It's reality. Successful starting white RBs are as rare in this league as Asians.

Deal with it. White people are well represented in all kinds of athletic events. So what if they can't play RB?

Don't forget one of the all time greats Travis Jervey.

Why are there so few black swimmers? They are just as capable of being great swimmers as white people!

Well, yes, black people can swim. Some of them are pretty fast in the water. Good enough to compete in the Olympics? Common enough at that stage of competition to make people not raise an eyebrow when they see a black swimmer?

I'm not being racist here. These are facts. These are numbers. Participation numbers at the highest level of competition.

That's the exact same boat white RBs are in. Fantastic athletes, I'm sure. So when 99.9% of them turn into FBs and shitty scatbacks who aren't as talented as the black midget scatbacks, I mean...

That's just reality. I'm sorry, but it is. Crying about it and labeling it a "myth" just makes you look like a fool.

I truly believe it's how they're pushed from a young age. More white athletes go to QB, OL, FB, S, LB, TE. More black athletes go to CB, RB, WR, DL, LB.

Overlap occurs, but you end up with some serious segregation of certain positions. I don't know if it's some deeply ingrained stigma or what, but it's odd.

I can't recall the last white CB in the NFL. There have been some good white FBs like Hoge and Alstott that contributed toting the rock. On the other side, you kind of wonder why there aren't more black QBs, at the very least as backups.

There are plenty of white RBs that trickle through. All of them suck, and the once every 10 years or so when you get a white guy who rushes for 1000 yards, he's a glorified FB.

The Watts are a standout football family. One of them is perhaps the most outstanding pass rushing DL guy I've ever seen. He's got a brother who will become a pretty good passrusher.

What about the middle brother? Worthless crap FB. Pretty good FB, but he's still a FB.