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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Criticize his game all you want but DeShone Kizer is an impressive young man. Reminds me of Matt Ryan way he handles himself. So impressive.</p>— Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/857597936720642049">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No one asked him to do it but yesterday he organized a 3-on-3 football game with the kids at Shriners Hospital. <a href="https://t.co/l45ftkgHcV">https://t.co/l45ftkgHcV</a></p>— Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/857598194435358720">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Some Trubisky rumors from Eric Galko...
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Why the hell would the 49ers trade the #2 pick for Kirk Cousins?
That's way too much to give up for the privilege of paying a slightly above average quarterback $24 million/season for his age 29+ seasons. Shit, the 49ers wouldn't be smart to give him that contract in free agency and giving up the #2 overall pick to do so would just be goddamn reeruned. But then again....duh. That's not going to happen. |
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It would not make any sense at all to give up the #2 overall pick for a pending FA quarterback entering his age 29 season unless said quarterback is a bonafide superstar or the player that will push you over the top. Not a single part of that is true. No, it would make zero sense. Especially when Cousins will be just good enough to win 6 games and put them on the 5 year quarterback carousel that ensures they never get a shot at a genuine superstar QB in the draft. Cousins is the absolute worst thing they could do. They need to draft defense with that pick, continue to build with the expectation of being terrible again in '17 and then take their QB in the '18 draft. |
All these teams trying to bait Cleveland into moving up from 12 for Trubisky.
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No they don't. Truly great, HoF caliber passers often don't age that much as they enter their mid-30s and they've developed superstar bonafides so you come to appreciate them more in their mid-30s, but no, they weren't better than they were in their late 20s. And for the vast VAST majority of pocket passers, they're simply out of the league altogether by their mid-30s because the skills are gone. You're using an awful sample size of passers that made it to their mid 30s as starters precisely because they were already great quarterbacks. That is not a representative sample of passers nor is it any kind of proxy for Kirk Cousins. Cousins has maybe 2 more prime seasons in him and by 32 he'll be on his way out of the league, IMO. He'll hang on for another couple of years after that and by 35 he'll just be gone altogether. He will not be peaking 7 years from now. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Paper, Alex Smith should feel insecure with Mahomes arrival. But Mahomes will most likely take AT LEAST 2 yrs.</p>— Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/859782853894295552">May 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid will have to utterly overhaul Mahomes’s game if he wants him to run his offense.</p>— Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/859789898261250049">May 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid offense built on disciplined coverage reads. That was not at all how Mahomes played at Texas Tech.</p>— Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/859794934865514499">May 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My guess is Reid believes Mahomes will be his starter on opening day of 2019. A lot to rewire in the rookie first.</p>— Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/859800226172948481">May 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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People have been mis-stating 'What Andy Reid looks for in his quarterbacks' for years. Andy Reid has had ONE rote, robotic quarterback under center for him in a 20 year career. One. Alex Smith.
Meanwhile he's had his greatest successes with aggressive, improvisational passers who can take the bedrock principles of his offense, use them when they're available and pull something from the fire when they're not. I absolutely believe that he came to KC and wanted someone that would just do what's on the paper because he came into a franchise in turmoil and lets be honest, Reid's last couple of years in Philly weren't exactly sterling. He wanted to make sure he still had it and the way to do that was work with a steady variable under center. He has the franchise back on track and he has his confidence back. He knows that this hard-wired, by the letters quarterbacking isn't going to work anymore in an NFL where defenses can only succeed by creating a maelstrom of shit for the QB to wade through. You can't blow guys up over the middle to dislodge the ball anymore. You can't rough up WRs in their routes (or even touch them, really). So you have to just create havoc and Smith was simply not handling that havoc well. Reid saw it. He knew it. He's a 59 year old man that didn't spent the next 2 first rounders on a guy that's not going to do anything to help this team until he's gumming his dinners. Because if Mahomes sits for 2, he still needs the 3rd year of live fire before you know anything. You think Andy Reid gave up 2 picks so he could have a guy ready to rock in ****ing 2020? What a bunch of idiocy. I think Andy Reid drafted Mahomes with the belief that there's a chance, albeit small, that Mahomes starts THIS YEAR. Not on day 1, but by week 17. |
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Agree wholeheartedly DJ. I think they immediately get Andy, Nagy, Chilly and Kafka around this kid at all times starting this weekend.
Get the playbook down and work on the mechanics non-stop all the time, every minute of every practice. I'm completely fine with him playing by Thanksgiving or later IF he shows he's ready in preseason. I would prefer to not play him this year, but if he's lighting it up in camp and preseason? Woo boy |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the Favre, Mahomes comparisons, remember: only guy in history who thrived playing to degree of gunslinger as Favre played is….Favre.</p>— Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/859806008482426884">May 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of Favre’s former coaches on the QB’s football IQ: he could do calculus but he couldn’t add or subtract.</p>— Andy Benoit (@Andy_Benoit) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/859811045807935490">May 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Who the **** is Andy Benoit??? Trolling turd. You are scared shitless of Mahomes/Reid.
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Two paragraphs of pure shit. You are desperate knowmo. No QB needs two ****ing years to get ready to play...unless they suck ass *cough* Paxston Lynch *cough*
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Rosen's reports read EXACTLY like Kizer's from the same time a year prior. All sorts of ability but can't get it all to come together. Attitude and work ethic questions, etc... Mahomes and Allen are the same damn guy but with Allen you add some level of competition questions. When the draft rolls around, you're going to hear the same things about Allens arm talent but rough edges that you hear about Mahomes. Baker Mayfield has a lot of similar traits to Trubisky though admittedly more experience. Mason Rudolph is going to end up getting picked apart a lot like Davis Webb. The 2018 class is extremely similar to this class but with a true #1 overall prospect at the top of it with Darnold. There's no Deshaun Watson type; great college resume with questionable translation kind of player but a lot of teams really like Watson. The weakness of this class has been wildly overstated as has the strength of next year's class. |
Josh Allen is as much of a project as Mahomes, if not more.
He threw 15 picks against bad competition. Big red flag |
There is a play on Grudens QB Camp where Gruden is going through his RCE bit with Mahomes. Mahomes recognizes the defense, communicates to his offense, and executes the play perfectly. Gruden gives Mahomes high praise.
Sure, Mahomes has more to learn. But this is not like he is some junior high QB trying to go directly to the NFL as some would have you try and believe. |
The biggest thing that Mahomes will have to get used to is knowing that his defense isn't complete shit. It's ****ing awesome to know that if we are down by 14 points....we have a legitimate ****ing shot of our QB bringing us back from it.
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And I love Josh Allen, but I'm a fan for the same reasons I loved Mahomes as a prospect. The arm talent just oozes out of the guy and I think we have a staff that could round him into shape. But the teams that wanted Mahomes this year will want Allen next year and we'll find ourselves in the same boat only a year further down the road with no greater chance at success (and in the interim, who the hell knows if Allen won't implode). It's just asinine to cite Josh Allen as a reason that next year's class is set apart from this one when in fact, he's a dead ringer for Mahomes. |
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What really gripes me is throwing short on 3rd and long (or running a draw play). Once in a blue moon, it works but generally it leads to a punt. In today's NFL, you have fairly decent chance of an illegal contact or PI call if it's not complete, so why not throw it past the sticks? And then to add insult to injury, after the five yard pass on 3rd and 15, the punt team will come out and take an intentional delay of game penalty to give Colquitt more room. :facepalm:
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2. Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
Games Played: 30 | Passer Efficiency Rating: 157.0 | AY/A: 9.2 Top Statistical Comp: Steve McNair If we were judging this based just on collegiate efficiency, then Patrick Mahomes would hold the top spot. He had the best AY/A in the class, and his passer efficiency rating was second by a hair. With the discrepancy between Kaaya and Mahomes in games played, though, Mahomes slides down to a respectable second. Mahomes took big strides between his 2015 sophomore season and last year in limiting interceptions, something that helped vault him to the top of this list. He threw 15 picks as a sophomore, leading the Big 12, but he cut that to 10 this year despite adding 18 more total attempts. When you couple that with a gaudy 41 touchdowns, it's easy to see how his AY/A got so meaty. This isn't to say he cowers over previous first-round picks, though. Going back to our group of 60 candidates, Mahomes ranks 26th in AY/A and 29th in passer efficiency rating. This is all while starting for just two-plus seasons, limiting him to 30 games played. Even the elite in this class bring some serious questions. Whenever Mahomes' name is brought up this draft season, you can bet someone will make mention of his playing in the Big 12. This isn't a conference known for stellar defense, potentially tainting his efficiency stats. Looking back at how past Big 12 first-round picks have fared likely won't help his case. Since 1995, there have been seven quarterbacks from the Big 12 drafted in the first round. Here's a look at how they've fared in the NFL through the eyes of NEP, again focusing on top-15 seasons in years in which they had at least 200 drop backs. Quarterback School Top-15 NEP Seasons Qualified Seasons Robert Griffin III Baylor 1 3 Sam Bradford Oklahoma 1 6 Vince Young Texas 1 3 Brandon Weeden Oklahoma State 0 2 Josh Freeman Kansas State 1 4 Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M 1 5 Blaine Gabbert Missouri 0 3 In 26 qualified seasons, former Big 12 quarterbacks have finished in the top 15 in Total NEP just five times. Sam Bradford didn't get his first top-15 finish until this year. You can bet Mahomes is going to hear about this, whether it's fair or not. Perhaps it's fitting, then, that Mahomes' top comp is the late Steve McNair, who played his college ball at Alcorn State, which was -- at the time -- Division I-AA. His stats there weren't anything otherworldly, either, and he and Mahomes line up well across the board. Quarterback Games Pass. Eff. Rat. AY/A Steve McNair: 33 155.4 9.0 Patrick Mahomes: 30 157.0 9.2 McNair was a tremendous NFL player despite putting up just decent stats against lower-level competition in college; it's probably not right to write off Mahomes simply because he played in an offensive-minded conference. Mahomes is similar to Kaaya in that he's not likely to cost a team a first-round pick. That makes any warts and worries he may present less frightening. He showed some reasons for excitement when he was at Texas Tech, and it would seem fully justifiable to target him at some point beyond the first round. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Albert Breer spends the first 5 minutes talking about this years QB class. He then interviews Daniel Jeremiah starting at the 30 minute mark and they start talking about the QB's at the 35:20 mark...
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's typical of most rookies, they have no idea how complicated pro football Mahomes: "Chiefs' playbook 'a lot harder than I thought'</p>— Michael Lombardi (@mlombardiNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/861576995112534016">May 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Play on field is what matters but for what it's worth: Talked to Bronco player who said "Paxton has been first one in meetings." <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/9sports?src=hash">#9sports</a></p>— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/854341365743853568">April 18, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> :) I also think Paxton is more receptive to coaching than Pat Mahomes. Mahomes has an "I do it my way" kind of vibe to him. |
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https://twitter.com/smartfootball/st...00358379298816
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From what I've heard, Mahomes has learned more in a couple practices than Lynch did in an entire year...ROFL
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Pat is far ahead of where Lynch was this time last year bc of what each did in college.
Changes at the line of scrimmage and calling pass protections. Pat did this a lot at Tech and Lynch didn't do this at all at Memphis. Pat is far more prepared mentally at this stage. It will be interesting to see what lynch has learned from a year in the NFL. |
Eric Galko talks about the Chiefs draft...
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Darnold, Rosen, Allen: No sure-fire franchise QBs in next wave
By Bucky Brooks
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It starts.
Next year's class is always better. Always. And by next year, that class will look a hell of a lot like this one with a possible exception of having one top tier option that we'd have never had a shot at anyway. God I'm glad that argument is dead and we just have our high-ceiling bird in hand. |
From DJ...
First Look: Scouting USC QB Sam Darnold
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Knowmo, you will be bad, but not bad enough to get Sam. Chiefs get a franchise guy and you are left holding your dicks with Lynch (a guy Dorse baited u into drafting)Love it!
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First Look: Scouting Wyoming QB Josh Allen
By Daniel Jeremiah
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Josh Allen is ahead of Mahomes bc he is more mobile and is learning under a pro style system.
Mahomes has the most proven HC to develop QB's in the league teaching him. Mahomes was well ahead of Paxton Lynch last season. The draft doesn't lie. Elite QB coaches wanted Mahomes at 11 and 13 before Andy got him at 10. Lynch almost fell to the 2nd rd bc nobody wanted him until late. |
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If those "elite QB coaches" really wanted Mahomes they would've traded up to get him instead of allowing KC to trade up 17 spots. Sure, if Mahomes was sitting there at their pick they might've drafted him, but they weren't going to move up to get him.
KC traded up for Mahomes because they knew they wouldn't be able to get a QB next year. Don't forget, the Chiefs wanted Lynch last year and they knew they couldn't afford to miss out on QB's in 2016, 2017, AND 2018. They were desperate to find Alex Smith's replacement, ASAP. |
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There were a plenty of mocks weeks before (maybe even months) that had the Broncos trading up for Lynch. I myself called it months before on CP. |
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<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Word from a league source: Chiefs trying to move up, but for an ILB and not a QB. Reuben Foster/Jarrad Davis maybe?</p>— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/857734673816059904">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those close to Patrick Mahomes think he will land in KC, Houston or Arizona.</p>— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/857746370714906625">April 28, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Quote:
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I never really considered Paxton Lynch as an option because I thought for sure he'd go in the top 10/15 picks. It wasn't until he slipped past the Jets at 20 that I really thought it was a possibility. You have to remember, Denver was picking at 31 and Elway wasn't going to give up an arm and a leg in a trade. |
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Not one of those tweets is a prediction that the Chiefs will trade up for Mahomes |
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The fact that the Chiefs didn't offer much (or anything) to trade up for Lynch but then gave up what they did for Mahomes tells you all you need to know. Bottom line is Paxton Lynch was a QB KC liked. Pat Mahomes was a QB they loved. |
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Dorsey said prospects like Mahomes "don't come along very often". It's clear he didn't think Lynch fit that label. |
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"A better version of Patrick Mahomes"
LMAO What exactly makes Allen better? |
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