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duncan_idaho 12-17-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9218357)
Rotoworld:



:facepalm:

Did we seriously think he had trade value? How come everyone else in the world knew we needed to non-tender him?

Because no organization clings more stubbornly to the "scout's view" of a player than the Royals. It's painfully obvious. Look at the track record.

Hochevar and Davies are the best examples, but they are far from the only ones. Jeff Francoeur last season is another great example.

Luke Hochevar passes the eye test with flying colors. If you watch him throw, you can see what SHOULD be there.

But that's a good thing... it's the Royals' only hope of moving him, that someone buys into the eye test at this point.

RockChalk 12-18-2012 09:44 AM

Best Family Feud episode ever?

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Demonpenz 12-18-2012 03:58 PM

I know which family fued you are referencing it has cards vs royals with willie wilson on there reading ebony or something

Nightfyre 12-21-2012 11:15 AM

So the Tigers are reportedly shopping Porcello for bullpen arms and high-upside prospects.

duncan_idaho 12-21-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9229648)
So the Tigers are reportedly shopping Porcello for bullpen arms and high-upside prospects.

The apparent interest in Rick Porcello is mystifying to me. Why does anyone is baseball want this guy?

He's 25, is an extreme contact/luck pitcher, and has never shown any signs of being a strikeout pitcher at all. His already-atrocious K rate is likely to drop as he gets older, too - just like every other pitcher as he ages.

I realize his FIP number looks slightly better (4.26 vs. 4.55 ERA), but the guy has enough experience now to believe he's someone who underperforms his metrics, just like Hochevar.

Demonpenz 12-21-2012 11:54 AM

He has a cool.baseball name.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-21-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9229747)
He has a cool.baseball name.

Bill Naharodney.

CoMoChief 12-21-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9229702)
The apparent interest in Rick Porcello is mystifying to me. Why does anyone is baseball want this guy?

He's 25, is an extreme contact/luck pitcher, and has never shown any signs of being a strikeout pitcher at all. His already-atrocious K rate is likely to drop as he gets older, too - just like every other pitcher as he ages.

I realize his FIP number looks slightly better (4.26 vs. 4.55 ERA), but the guy has enough experience now to believe he's someone who underperforms his metrics, just like Hochevar.

I'd say yes to Porcello in a heartbeat.

BigCatDaddy 12-21-2012 09:04 PM

We have 4 solid starters right now and Duffy and Paulino coming back at the end of the year. We won't be adding any more starting pitching.

alnorth 12-21-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9230973)
We have 4 solid starters right now and Duffy and Paulino coming back at the end of the year. We won't be adding any more starting pitching.

and even if we were looking, Detroit sure as hell wouldn't trade him to us, unless they believe he's terrible and could give us some losses.

Captain Obvious 12-21-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9229790)
I'd say yes to Porcello in a heartbeat.

Then do not want.

duncan_idaho 12-21-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9230984)
and even if we were looking, Detroit sure as hell wouldn't trade him to us, unless they believe he's terrible and could give us some losses.

I could understand how they'd believe he's terrible. As he is...

lewdog 12-21-2012 10:27 PM

Just dropped a few hundred bucks to see 3 Royals Spring training games... Rangers, D-backs and Dodgers. Can't wait!

Mama Hip Rockets 12-22-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9231077)
Just dropped a few hundred bucks to see 3 Royals Spring training games... Rangers, D-backs and Dodgers. Can't wait!

A few hundred? Spring training? What?

CoMoChief 12-22-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9230973)
We have 4 solid starters right now and Duffy and Paulino coming back at the end of the year. We won't be adding any more starting pitching.

4 ?

Shields
Santana
Guthrie (maybe)

Who's the 4th?

lewdog 12-22-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 9232142)
A few hundred? Spring training? What?

4 tickets a game, which averages to about $17 a ticket. Not too bad I don't think.

BigCatDaddy 12-22-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9232148)
4 ?

Shields
Santana
Guthrie (maybe)

Who's the 4th?

Wade Davis is the 4th starter. I think he'll do just fine, but they really need him to start to justify the Myers trade.

doomy3 12-22-2012 09:46 PM

Former Royal Ryan Freel committed suicide today.

http://deadspin.com/5970824/report-f...cide-at-age-36

Former utility player Ryan Freel, who broke into the majors with Toronto in 2001 and played the majority of his eight-year career with the Cincinnati Reds, committed suicide today. First Coast News in Jacksonville has the first report:

First Coast News sports director Dan Hicken has learned that Ryan Freel, a Jacksonville native and former Major League Baseball has died at the age of 36. The cause of death is suicide.

Freel played baseball at Sandalwood and Englewood High School. He played for five different MLB teams from 2001-2009. He is most known for his six-year tenure with the Cincinnati Reds.

His career batting average was .268 he stole 143 bases in his career.

Since his retirement from professional baseball in 2009, Freel was a part of an organization on the First Coast called BLD Baseball which stands for Big League Development. Through this organization, Freel coached local youth baseball players.

Freel was named head baseball coach at St. Joseph Academy in June. He shows up in the Deadspin archives on a few occasions which you can see here.

We'll update this post as more information becomes available.

Ryan Freel, Former MLB Player From Jacksonville, Commits Suicide [First Coast News]

Prison Bitch 12-22-2012 10:59 PM

Jeez , if he could survive playing for the Royals, you'd think he'd survive everything else

Mama Hip Rockets 12-23-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 9233362)
Former Royal Ryan Freel committed suicide today.

http://deadspin.com/5970824/report-f...cide-at-age-36

Former utility player Ryan Freel, who broke into the majors with Toronto in 2001 and played the majority of his eight-year career with the Cincinnati Reds, committed suicide today. First Coast News in Jacksonville has the first report:

First Coast News sports director Dan Hicken has learned that Ryan Freel, a Jacksonville native and former Major League Baseball has died at the age of 36. The cause of death is suicide.

Freel played baseball at Sandalwood and Englewood High School. He played for five different MLB teams from 2001-2009. He is most known for his six-year tenure with the Cincinnati Reds.

His career batting average was .268 he stole 143 bases in his career.

Since his retirement from professional baseball in 2009, Freel was a part of an organization on the First Coast called BLD Baseball which stands for Big League Development. Through this organization, Freel coached local youth baseball players.

Freel was named head baseball coach at St. Joseph Academy in June. He shows up in the Deadspin archives on a few occasions which you can see here.

We'll update this post as more information becomes available.

Ryan Freel, Former MLB Player From Jacksonville, Commits Suicide [First Coast News]

RIP, Farney.

alnorth 12-31-2012 12:58 PM

The Royals have signed Endy Chavez to a minor league contract. He was somewhat OK in 2011 (helped by a high babip) and atrocious in 2012 (but he had a hilariously-low babip)

He's probably about what we could expect Frenchy to do, except a lot cheaper. Along with Xavier Nady and Willy Taveras (both also signed minor league contracts) we now have an entire grab-bag of awful-to-underwhelming outfielders in Omaha.

CHENZ A! 12-31-2012 01:16 PM

We got new BP hats. Yesssss.

duncan_idaho 12-31-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9259255)
The Royals have signed Endy Chavez to a minor league contract. He was somewhat OK in 2011 (helped by a high babip) and atrocious in 2012 (but he had a hilariously-low babip)

He's probably about what we could expect Frenchy to do, except a lot cheaper. Along with Xavier Nady and Willy Taveras (both also signed minor league contracts) we now have an entire grab-bag of awful-to-underwhelming outfielders in Omaha.

Chavez is at least a solid defender who can occasionally get on base. He's also been a complementary piece on a lot of winning teams. Solid signing.

KChiefs1 12-31-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9259255)
The Royals have signed Endy Chavez to a minor league contract. He was somewhat OK in 2011 (helped by a high babip) and atrocious in 2012 (but he had a hilariously-low babip)

He's probably about what we could expect Frenchy to do, except a lot cheaper. Along with Xavier Nady and Willy Taveras (both also signed minor league contracts) we now have an entire grab-bag of awful-to-underwhelming outfielders in Omaha.

I'm ok with this.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-31-2012 06:16 PM

Dionisio Soldevila ‏@dSoldevila

Miguel Tejada signed a 1.1 millon garanteed contract with the KC Royals.



http://ESPNDeportes.com reporter

Ceej 12-31-2012 06:18 PM

How does Miguel Tejada fit in?

siberian khatru 12-31-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9261384)
Dionisio Soldevila ‏@dSoldevila

Miguel Tejada signed a 1.1 millon garanteed contract with the KC Royals.



http://ESPNDeportes.com reporter

Is he back on roids?

DeezNutz 12-31-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9261384)
Dionisio Soldevila ‏@dSoldevila

Miguel Tejada signed a 1.1 millon garanteed contract with the KC Royals.



http://ESPNDeportes.com reporter

lol. Maybe we'll squeeze something out of him at 2B, but he's BRV at this point, in all honesty.

Ebolapox 12-31-2012 06:20 PM

this is only about 10 years too late.

Ceej 12-31-2012 06:24 PM

Anyone know what Jose Canseco is up to these days?!

AustinChief 12-31-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9261384)
Miguel Tejada signed a 1.1 millon garanteed contract with the KC Royals.

Holy crap! That dude is older than I am!
It may be time for me to go try out with the Royals!

chefsos 12-31-2012 06:51 PM

Has to be said: And the O'ssification of the Royals continues...

Wow, ossification is actually a real word...my spellchecker didn't ask me "WTF is this shit?".

Anyway. I'll always root for Tejada; hope he has a decent year left in him (and maybe some B12 left in him too) but Endy Chavez was absolutely useless last year. You know that army of faceless JAGs who seemingly were touched by Jebus and inexplicably produced for the 2012 O's? Yeah, Endy was evidently bent over tending to an ailment and the touch missed. He's one of those veterans who are good for OF depth though.

Reaper16 12-31-2012 07:12 PM

Other reporters saying its a minor league deal.

lewdog 12-31-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9261648)
Other reporters saying its a minor league deal.

You would have to assume so wouldn't you? I mean come on, dude is old as dirt.

Canofbier 12-31-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9261922)
You would have to assume so wouldn't you? I mean come on, dude is old as dirt.

Realistically, who would he be replacing on the ML roster? Getz? I'm not even sure who our backup SS/3B is at this point, so maybe that?

alnorth 12-31-2012 08:40 PM

Tejada is a pretty bad signing, even for utility infield. We should be able to find someone better than that.

Tejada did not play a single game in the majors in 2012, and it wasn't because he was hurt.

edit: its a bad signing if he's getting a major league contract

SnakeXJones 12-31-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9261959)
Tejada is a pretty bad signing, even for utility infield. We should be able to find someone better than that.

Tejada did not play a single game in the majors in 2012, and it wasn't because he was hurt.

edit: its a bad signing if he's getting a major league contract

He didnt do that bad in Winter ball but reading its a minor league deal & invite to spring training

alnorth 12-31-2012 10:39 PM

Apparently the reason why Tejada was signed was because he's doing well in winter ball. Maybe he's here to push Getz in spring training.

SPchief 01-01-2013 01:09 AM

First post in 2013.



WTF Dayton? Migel Tejada?

CHENZ A! 01-02-2013 09:04 PM

Tejada's old ass at 2B?? Can't be worse than who we have, right?

DJJasonp 01-02-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9261422)
Anyone know what Jose Canseco is up to these days?!

Yes I do, as a matter of fact!

He plays softball tournaments routinely on weekends here in So-Cal.

I've played in a few tournaments where he and his brother play on the same team.

Needless to say, both beat the crap out of the ball (his brother hits farther in softball, by the way).

So, yeah, maybe that qualifies him to replace Frenchy!

Demonpenz 01-02-2013 09:10 PM

Miguel Tejada's green zone in mvp baseball 04 was off the chain

siberian khatru 01-02-2013 09:28 PM

Top Prospect Alert ‏@MinorLeagueBlog

#Royals Salvador Perez final line in Venezuela Winter League regular season play .371, 10(2B), 8HR, 39RBI in 32 Games

Retweeted by Bob Dutton

duncan_idaho 01-02-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9271305)
Top Prospect Alert ‏@MinorLeagueBlog

#Royals Salvador Perez final line in Venezuela Winter League regular season play .371, 10(2B), 8HR, 39RBI in 32 Games

Retweeted by Bob Dutton

Sick.

Great Expectations 01-02-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9271305)
Top Prospect Alert ‏@MinorLeagueBlog

#Royals Salvador Perez final line in Venezuela Winter League regular season play .371, 10(2B), 8HR, 39RBI in 32 Games

Retweeted by Bob Dutton

Wow, he has progressed to the point where i think he should be resting next winter.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-03-2013 06:45 PM

A month after trading hurlers Jake Odorizzi and Mike Montgomery to the Rays as part of the deal that brought James Shields and Wade Davis to Kansas City, the Royals added some pitching depth on Thursday, signing right-hander Blaine Boyer to a Minor League contract for 2013.

Boyer, 31, was drafted by Atlanta in the third round of the 2000 Draft and went 9-14 with a 4.81 ERA in his 233 appearances with the Braves, Cardinals, D-backs and Mets during the 2005-09 seasons. The groundball specialist has allowed just 17 homers in 234 innings pitched.

The Royals plan to announce the club's Major League camp non-roster invitees at a later date.

Gary Cotton is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...ews_kc&c_id=kc

alnorth 01-03-2013 07:47 PM

Looked around at about 80 or so HOF ballots, if thats a representative sample, its depressing. I have to agree with Rany, the best possible outcome might be no one elected this year.

It doesn't look like Bagwell's getting in this year, the only one who might is Jack Morris, and he does not deserve it.

Hootie 01-05-2013 12:11 AM

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Red Sox, Rays, Nationals and Royals were all in attendance to watch Javier Vazquez in his Puerto Rican Winter League debut on Friday.
By all accounts, Vazquez looked very sharp during the outing. He pitched six shutout innings, allowing just three singles and no walks while racking up four strikeouts. His velocity sat consistently at 93 mph, touching as high as 95, and he maintained good command of the strike zone. Interest in the veteran right-hander should heat up after this terrific showing.


THIS WOULD EXCITE ME GREATLY.

Don't think we have the money though.

KChiefs1 01-05-2013 12:14 AM

Javier Vazquez!

DeezNutz 01-05-2013 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9284011)
FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Red Sox, Rays, Nationals and Royals were all in attendance to watch Javier Vazquez in his Puerto Rican Winter League debut on Friday.
By all accounts, Vazquez looked very sharp during the outing. He pitched six shutout innings, allowing just three singles and no walks while racking up four strikeouts. His velocity sat consistently at 93 mph, touching as high as 95, and he maintained good command of the strike zone. Interest in the veteran right-hander should heat up after this terrific showing.


THIS WOULD EXCITE ME GREATLY.

Don't think we have the money though.

Of course we have the money. The question is whether Glass will spend it.

(Note: not really bitching about payroll because it is at a respectable level.)

KChiefs1 01-05-2013 12:16 AM

http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXvXXvazquja01.shtml

MVChiefFan 01-05-2013 12:17 AM

Man I thought I was gonna read "Royals trade Frenchy for Mike Trout"!!! Best sports day EVER!!!

duncan_idaho 01-05-2013 01:14 AM

Vazquez would be an excellent one-year signing. Just an excellent pick-up.

Shields
Guthrie
Santana
Vazquez
Davis

That would be an excellent rotation upgrade. I mean... I was beating the drum to bring in three new guys for the rotation this offseason. If they compeletely make-over the rotation... wow.

SnakeXJones 01-05-2013 08:23 AM

Def would love to get him on a one year deal

SAUTO 01-05-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9284136)
Vazquez would be an excellent one-year signing. Just an excellent pick-up.

Shields
Guthrie
Santana
Vazquez
Davis

That would be an excellent rotation upgrade. I mean... I was beating the drum to bring in three new guys for the rotation this offseason. If they compeletely make-over the rotation... wow.

Holy **** it would be awesome.

I know we said this before...

BUT it might be a good time to be a Kansas City sports fan
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cabletech94 01-05-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9284545)
Holy **** it would be awesome.

I know we said this before...

BUT it might be a good time to be a Kansas City sports fan
Posted via Mobile Device

Couldn't agree more.

lewdog 01-05-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9284545)
Holy **** it would be awesome.

I know we said this before...

BUT it might be a good time to be a Kansas City sports fan
Posted via Mobile Device

You know you are a deprived sports fan when optimism is all you have every offseason.

But for once, please be right!

SAUTO 01-05-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9284604)
You know you are a deprived sports fan when optimism is all you have every offseason.

But for once, please be right!

if you can't be optimistic , I'm going to borrow from htis here, then why be a fan anymore? what would the point be
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SAUTO 01-05-2013 10:11 AM

And ftr I'm ready, how long till spring training?
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ChiefsCountry 01-05-2013 10:16 AM

Royals and Chiefs be good at the same time? Hell yes sign me up.

cabletech94 01-05-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9284666)
And ftr I'm ready, how long till spring training?
Posted via Mobile Device

45 days or so. My mother in law got me a 10 game mini pack for Xmas. Seats are right behind home plate. My boner still hasn't subsided. Hurry up 2013 season.

Hootie 01-05-2013 11:05 AM

I bet it'll take 1 year, $10M for Vazquez.

MAYBE they could get him for $5M with incentives.

siberian khatru 01-05-2013 11:08 AM

I've always been a big Vazquez fan (so long as he's not pitching in NY). If he's got something left, I'd love to have him.

Strongside 01-05-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 9284681)
45 days or so. My mother in law got me a 10 game mini pack for Xmas. Seats are right behind home plate. My boner still hasn't subsided. Hurry up 2013 season.

Does your mother in law know about this boner?

Sure-Oz 01-05-2013 12:45 PM

Hope they make a solid attempt to sign him, it'd be big

lewdog 01-10-2013 06:50 PM

I wore a KC Royals shirt to the gym today. Got asked if I play for the team.

Damn I must be looking swole!

Cephalic Trauma 01-10-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9304058)
I wore a KC Royals shirt to the gym today. Got asked if I play for the team.

Damn I must be looking swole!

This ain't the steroid era anymore, brah.

Looking like a baseball player isn't exactly a compliment.

lewdog 01-10-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9304090)
This ain't the steroid era anymore, brah.

Looking like a baseball player isn't exactly a compliment.

Well I do look swole so I took it as a compliment. I usually get asked if I play college football. So eat it, dick!

Cephalic Trauma 01-10-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9304094)
Well I do look swole so I took it as a compliment. I usually get asked if I play college football. So eat it, dick!

Is Chris Getz your workout partner?

lewdog 01-10-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9304097)
Is Chris Getz your workout partner?

ROFL

Chris Getz wouldn't even be allowed to wipe my ass if my arms were broken.

Cephalic Trauma 01-10-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9304101)
ROFL

Chris Getz wouldn't even be allowed to wipe my ass if my arms were broken.

That was kinda the point of the joke. Just bustin your balls.

Ceej 01-10-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9304058)
I wore a KC Royals shirt to the gym today. Got asked if I play for the team.

Damn I must be looking swole!

lewcansecodog

Saul Good 01-10-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9304094)
Well I do look swole so I took it as a compliment. I usually get asked if I play college football. So eat it, dick!

Kicker

sedated 01-10-2013 07:44 PM

Every time this thread is bumped, I think we signed a new starting pitcher.

Ceej 01-10-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9304146)
Kicker

Be nice.

He's sweating a 51-51 game at Iowa.

#big10bball

#getexcited

mr. tegu 01-10-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 9304153)
Every time this thread is bumped, I think we signed a new starting pitcher.

Every time I see it bumped I get pumped because for the first time in a long time and basically my whole life we can have legitimate optimism about the upcoming season. I don't really count 2004.

BlackHelicopters 01-10-2013 07:57 PM

Endy Chavez has come home. Life is good.

alnorth 01-11-2013 08:29 PM

welp. The Royals got better, but according to at least one of the computers, they did not improve enough. The ZiPS projection is not fully out yet, but since the Royals "went all in", they released a sneak preview of KC.

Our rotation was upgraded by about 2 wins. Hopefully some of our hitters will bounce back a lot more than expected, and Frenchy will have a WAR on the correct side of zero. Billy Butler is projected to be our most valuable hitter, and James Shields is projected to be our most valuable pitcher.

Quote:

It’s not that the additions of Wade Davis and James Shields won’t help the Royals: they will. It’s to what degree they’ll help — especially considering the cost (i.e. Wil Myers). While ZiPS projects the Toronto Blue Jays’ renovated starting rotation (featured yesterday) to produce about 10 more wins than in 2012, Kansas City’s starting rotation is forecast to post a collective mark only about one or two wins better than last year’s version (which recorded a 7.6 WAR, all told, it appears).

alnorth 01-11-2013 08:30 PM

instant fun poll: the Royals went all-in.

What two cards are we holding? To make it simple, assume we went all-in pre-flop, we bet first, with 5 players at the table.

I'll say Queen-King suited.

MeatRock 01-11-2013 08:54 PM

Ace Jack. Seems fitting.


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