Big East brass has been told by WVU brass that they were turned down. That may have been an informal thing, but it sounds like they are out for now. Rumor is they might not have been in the SEC's top 3 even if they go to 16.

Gabe D just started a thread on Power Mizzou saying that he is sitting down to write a realignment article that everyone will want to read. This was about 15 min ago.

Looks like Mizzou is headed south... nothing final yet, but that's the appearance. :hmmm:

SEC would be amazing. Hope it turns out to be true. OU needs to hurry up and shit or get off the pot.

That article appears to be up.

Gabe has been very consistent in saying that all of his posts were speculation. Not this time. He said that he's hearing from sources within Mizzou that the SEC is there if they want it.

Now, its just a matter of breaking up this cluster**** of a conference. OU needs to GTFO so that we can make our move.

At this point, MU remaining in the Big 12-2-1 would be disappointing.

http://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1267857

so MU cant leave until OU does something?

If your Mizzou, why even wait on Oklahoma?

To avoid being the situation A & M is in...they jumped the gun and got into a mess. If Mizzou plays its cards right, it could collect some exit fees, then move to the SEC without penalty.

Isn't there a clause about the dissolution of the conference? If X teams leave, it will waive the exit fees, no?

http://www.rockmnation.com/2011/9/19...ce-realignment

Snort.

I have a feeling that if OU and OSU take off, then the remaining teams will threaten to stay together, if only to collect the exit fees. The conference would only have to stay together for one more year to collect. Then, a "settlement" could be negotiated, and A & M, OU, OSU would pay less than the full penalty, but they would still pay. At the point, the conference then officially dissolves, and Mizzou would join A & M in the SEC, with some of A & M's money in their pocket. Total win/win for the Tigers if the chips were to fall that way. Anything can happen though.

The league exit fees are garnered from withholdings of TV dollars. There's no actual exchange of cash from the school to the conference.

Would be hard to stay long enough to gather those, in this case.

KC Star article now up with the same info. This story is moving fast.

LMAO

Interesting. If so, leave at the first opportunity.

sptwri Mike DeArmond
Source: Mizzou has SEC offer, but SEC willing to wait - KansasCity.com bit.ly/qTbZ0X via @addthis
29 minutes ago

LMAO

Missouri should already have their bags packed.

If that is the case, then screw them. Pack up our bags and get the hell out of here. That is money Mizzou would never see anyways. I thought the exit fees was a combination of withholding TV revenue, plus additional funds, but if is just withholding a check no one is ever going to see, then it is time to exit.

Uh Yeah... Screw the Big 12...

I would give your left nut if KU would step up and GTFO of this dying conference...

So is this SEC offer like the Big 10 offer that we had last summer?

Gonna be tough winning that conference.

I don't think so. People in the know appear to be reporting it, although I'm sure their will be some denial given the legal ramifications.

That's why I'm in I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it mode. This could still explode all over us like a bloated corpse.

But if it does happen, I'm fine with it.

http://twitter.com/sptwri/statuses/116225722720337920

From mike:

On saying this is a painter repeat. Not in The Star. We did not print Painter had taken MU job.

Moving to the SEC is a great opportunity for Mizzou, if the offer is there I'd take it before they change their mind.

It'd be tough getting to the conference championship game, let alone winning.

KK says that Missouri shouldn't go to the SEC because the football teams are good there. Thus the schedule would be brutal.

Dude is clearly a Chiefs fan.

Lots of people wouldn't like the idea of playing Alabama, LSU, Florida etc in the same season--possibly all on the road.

If the SEC is at 14, who are the next two? Florida State and Virginia Tech maybe?

You want to develop an elite program, you need to be able to compete with the best.

Otherwise, it's all a joke anyway. Beyond this, going to a stable conference should be the first and foremost priority.

Unlikely to grab ACC teams. Florida State won't get in. Florida, Alabama, and Georgia don't want them in the conference and the SEC doesn't want to add more teams from states where they already have a presence.

The SEC doesn't necessarily have to expand to 16 teams.

They'll go to 16 eventually, hopefully they grab stronger programs than Mizzou and A&M with that last 2. (no offense anyone) o:-)

Going to the SEC is a huge opportunity, they should absolutely do it. You can't win the national title if you don't play in the SEC anymore anyway... LMAO

Pussies.

WV

I hope not. LMAO

OU is the team that I wonder about. Does the SEC not want them, or are they too scared to go play there?

Dave Matter had some thoughts that I share.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo.../four-and-out/

(after talking about different conferences and how Mizzou would fit into them)

Will it make for an easier path to the BCS? Absolutely. And that's the standard a lot of writers are giving for which conference makes the most sense for Missouri. I respectfully disagree. Since when has the only standard for Missouri football been winning championships? Why is the easiest path the best path? (Maybe it's because we have full-time careers, two high-maintenance dogs and very active 22-month-old twin boys, but my wife and I have a saying around our house: "Easy is boring." I think it applies to Missouri football's conference situation, too.)

Would the SEC be a meat grinder each and every week? Absolutely. But what's wrong with that? Would Missouri have to recalibrate its expectations in the SEC? Most likely, yes. Would recruiting get an SEC bump with kids who'd rather play against LSU, Alabama, Auburn and Florida? Possibly, yes.

Maybe I'm in the minority among my peers, but I find the journey more compelling than the conclusion. Wouldn't a pressure cooker regular season with games against traditional football powers be far more entertaining than a home lineup against the likes of Cincinnati, Rutgers or Air Force? I probably don't have the best perspective on this. Because I don’t care about the outcome each week or the team's final record. As long as Missouri plays in a relevant conference and plays important games, with a few appealing road trips along the way, I'm a happy guy. For my tastes, an 8-4 season in the SEC is far more interesting to cover as a journalist than 10-2 in some patched together Big 12 or Big East. Missouri should think big. Forget about finding the easiest path to college football's artificial, corporate-sponsored, postseason end game. College football should be about September, October and November — not some bloated bowl system.

The SEC doesn't want OSU and they're a package deal.

That's too bad.

According to Tweets from Clay Travis, who covers Tennessee, "SEC now denies it has given Missouri an offer to join SEC. League not happy about this story going public"

I hope this is true, if for no other reason that we'll get to hear that douche Boone cry about it.

So this is KU's problem. They are anchored to KSU

Next up: SEC retracts offer from Missouri. Will now explore adding WV.

So they deny it and they are upset it went public? That seems like awkward phrasing unless it's not completely true.

You don't want Boone Pickens?

not only that...

damn son LMAO

https://twitter.com/#!/ClayTravisBGI...33544564621312

Somebody (Alden?) is a ****ing idiot.

Again.

That's not going to change anything, MU and A&M are both going to end up in the SEC. Kansas on the other hand...

/ugh

I bet they leaked it to see if the Big 10 wants to make a play. I agree with Pants it won't change anything. Sure the SEC wanted to do this quietly.

"Likely furious."

Sounds like likely guess-work.

LMAO

Haha

Why is this funny?

Clay Travis is a know-nothing douchebag, for what its worth. That dude is hated here in Tuscaloosa.

so i heard u like divisions

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/70...9.47.12_AM.png

OU now demanding Bebee to be fired

Yep, wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'm really not that worried about Mizzou's landing spot. I think we are the prettiest girl left for conferences that are racing to increase their footprint and TV markets before superconference armageddon.

He's a Tenn fan no?

Of course he's hated.

It is different than, say, the level of hatred that Mizzou fans have for Bob Fescoe. Clay Travis tries to make up scandals and NCAA violations out of thin air. He's desperate and pathetic.

Yup. How you like dem apples?

I see.

More likely that Mizzou is in the West and Auburn in the East, IMAO.

quoted

I heard that to. Bebee must be fired & the LHN must go away,For OU to stay committed to the Big 12. Now OU is calling the shots. LMAO

THAT might be one of the most creatively funny things that I have ever read. BRAVO!:clap:

Another rumor I hope is true - I'd love to see these two gargantuan ****ing turds turn on each other.

They have never liked each other.

I can't speak for FSU, but Virginia Tech will NOT leave the ACC under any circumstances. We've been trying o get in it since the late 60's.

Fraz....I just feel like you are holding something back. LMAO

The SEC has already turned down WVU.

Article from Sporting News confirms SEC interest in Mizzou.

I used to work closely with Matt Hayes, and if he has confirmed this through one of his sources, it's likely pretty good info.

Matt has great sources in the SEC office, at UF, at Tenn, at South Carolina, and at UGA.

Can't imagine it's the same sourcing that the DeArmonds are hearing from, either.

This wasn't Alden. It was a booster (for Mike's story). Likely someone who is either strongly pro-SEC and trying to push Missouri that way or someone who is strongly anti-SEC and trying to prevent it from happening.

Matt Hayes >>>>>>>>> Clay Travis

when it comes to sourcing. Check Hayes' twitter, nervous Missouri fans.

OU & UT are so in this together. Its like good cop,bad cop. I hope they both burn to the ground.

Missouri Board of Curators announces a meeting for Thursday morning.

Hmmmm........

There is a serious effort being made, led by Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton, to try to save the Big 12, according to a high-placed administrator at a Big 12 school.

It will either be the Big 12's Hail Mary or its last gasp.

The administrator said Deaton, the head of the Big 12's five-member expansion committee, is trying to get everyone back to the table to try to see if the Big 12 can work out its differences.

A regent at another Big 12 school said he he was optimistic the conference could heal its problems.

Oklahoma State mega booster Boone Pickens was quoted by The Oklahoman saying Pickens had called Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a former yell leader at A&M, to try and fix the Big 12.

But Texas A&M spokesman Jason Cook released a statement to Orangebloods.com that "Texas A&M has made our intentions perfectly clear. We do not intend to be a member of the Big 12 past this season."

The question then becomes if Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State can live together in a nine-member Big 12?

And The Oklahoman quotes an unnamed, high-ranking Big 12 source as saying Oklahoma has a list of demands to hold the Big 12 together, including replacing commissioner Dan Beebe and for Texas to make some concessions as it pertains to the Longhorn Network.

The newspaper quotes sources saying OU was angered by ESPN getting a waiver from Fox to show a second game on the Longhorn Network and surprising the rest of the conference with the news.

The sources also tell the Oklahoman OU was upset when ESPN vowed to show high school highlights even after it was deemed impermissible by the NCAA to show high school games on LHN.

In general, the sources tell The Oklahoman, the Big 12 has a big trust problem that has to be rectified.

The Oklahoman also quotes a source saying Dan Beebe only serves one school - Texas.

The newspaper reports, ironically, Texas supported Jack Swarbrick as commissioner of the Big 12 and OU supported Beebe when Beebe was awarded the job as leader of the Big 12. Swarbrick is now the athletic director at Notre Dame.

Sources across the Big 12 confirm to Orangebloods.com that there is definitely a movement to try to save the Big 12 led by Deaton that may involve some radical proposals.

We will have more details as they become available.

A high-ranking official at a Big 12 school said, "The Big 12 is going to stay intact except for Texas A&M."

We will see if that's wishful thinking and the Big 12's Hail Mary - one year after a similar rescue attempt was successful - or if it's the Big 12's last gasp.

Stay tuned.
This post was edited on 9/20 4:04 PM by ChipBrown






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