WTF? I always assumed you were Stephen Colbert.

based on what?

Big Daddy and Mad Max......where's my money?

me too, I dunno with what. He couldn't put away Roy Nelson. Not that I don't think that JDS isn't a great fighter, I do. But I don't think he's as polished as Cain, and all you have to ask yourself is this. Would Cain have put Roy Nelson away? Yeah I think we know the answer to that.

Cain has more drive to be great than any fighter in the HW division of the UFC, his statements about needing to improve after totally manhandling the self proclaimed baddest SOB on the planet are evidence of that. I don't see a UFC heavy that I think can beat him right now.

Carwin could if he connects, but if it gets out of round 1 I don't think he can.

I read yesterday that it should be obvious now that 235-240 pounds is the ideal weight for a top heavyweight. There is no such thing as a 265 pound guy with cardio, mainly because even if they are lean it takes too much oxygen to keep fueling that kind of muscle mass. That seems to be very true as Brock was already gassing when the round was ending.

Like he put away Kongo? He also knocked the crapout of Rothwell for awhile and couldn't put him to sleep. Nelson is as good if not better then those two, especially Rothwell. This isn't Carwin where nobody escapes the first round. I think JDS is a bad matchup for Cain. He is quicker, better on his feet, and extremley difficult to take down. It will be a straight striking match IMO, and I like JDS in that type of fight. I think this fight goes the full 5 with JDS taking it on the score cards.

I want to see Roy Nelson-Lesnar just out of sick curiosity. Unfortunately we're going to get another Lesnar-Mir turd.

It's a real stretch to say Junior is quicker, and Cain has not had any problems taking anyone down yet, I'm sure he could get it there if he wanted it there.

I think it's safe to say that Cain has gotten better since those fights.

It will be a great fight either way regardless. I think both guys are top notch.

True, but who has he fought that is as quick and has as good of take down defense as JDS? He has just fought big maulers for the most part. Nog while not really a mauler is not a great striker either.

I guess we will find out when they get it on, I am looking forward to it.

If Roy fought at 205, he would be a bad dude.

Roy weighed 205 in the 4th grade.

Shane Carwin hurt his back and is out of UFC 125 against Roy Nelson

They need to pull a decent name to co main even that card then. Coulture maybe? Nog?

I'll buy it anyways, but man what a horrible looking card.

Middleweight bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami[1]
Middleweight bout: Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara[1]
Lightweight bout: Dennis Siver vs. Andre Winner[1]
Welterweight bout: Amir Sadollah vs. Peter Sobotta[1]
Light Heavyweight bout: Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Goran Reljic[1]

I forget who the main fight is on that one.

That's a freebie on Spike

Edgar vs Maynard

Thank goodness.

I'll buy that, regardless of who Roy fights. I love the lightweights.

It's a good card anyways, but with Carwin really made it a great card. I know most people hate the dude but, I love watching Leben fight.


Lightweight Championship bout: Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard[1]
Middleweight bout: Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann[1]
Lightweight bout: Clay Guida vs. Takanori Gomi[1]
Light Heavyweight bout: Brandon Vera vs. Thiago Silva[1]

Its gonna be Crocop vs Nelson, which I'm not interested in at all, I just want Crocop to retire.

I prefer they just leave the fight off the card then.

Well fighters only is reporting it, so, yay.

Leben is a tough guy, he has an awesome chin and loves to bang. Always an entertaining fight.

Leben may not fight because of him getting arrested for DUI

Leben may not fight because of him getting arrested for DUI

He'll probably still fight, it's a couple months away.

I'm glad that MMA is getting discussed on here more now. I stayed away from this thread because I just finished watching the card last night. And there were 3 pages of posts. Usually there is less than half a page.

WEren't you another one of the Lesnar nut huggers that told me my analysis of him as a fighter was ****ing stupid and wrong?

Dana white to have a Huge Announcement tomorrow.

Rumors being
1. UFC Channel
2. Signing of Mediocre fighter
3. Wec Merger
4. Aldo fighting in the UFC at LW.

Will keep you all posted

Also a few fights for K1 Dynamite should be announced today.

Let it go dude, some people like Lesnar, I can't stand his ass but Jesus man you are killing this thread with all this ****in I know more than you and I'm a bad ass shit.

What was up with him and Taker?

I'm like Mel Gibson in Payback man.........

Another rumor being an announcement of a UFC office and a card in Mexico.

Meh, It took them years to get a UFC office in Canada, I highly doubt that there will be one in Mexico anytime soon, BUT I wouldn't rule out Cain vs JDS in Mexico City

70 grand......

No. I have never like Lesnar. You think I'm stupid for liking Rashad Evans.

Wow, Ortiz still a huge draw.


UFC 121 Purse Information
Brock Lesnar ($400,000) vs. Cain Velasquez ($100,000 + $100,000 win bonus)
Jake Shields ($75,000 + $75,000) vs. Martin Kampmann $27,000
Diego Sanchez ($50,000 + $50,000 win bonus) vs. Paulo Thiago ($18,000)
Matt Hamill ($29,000 + $29,000 win bonus) vs. Tito Ortiz ($250,000)
Gabriel Gonzaga ($67,000) vs. Brendan Schaub ($10,000 + $10,000 win bonus)
Court McGee ($15,000 + $15,000 win bonus) vs. Ryan Jensen ($10,000)
Patrick Cote ($21,000) vs. Tom Lawlor ($10,000 + $10,000 win bonus)
Mike Guymon ($8,000) vs. Daniel Roberts ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus)
Sam Stout ($16,000 + $16,000 win bonus) vs. Paul Taylor ($16,000)
Chris Camozzi ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus) vs. Dongi Yang ($8,000)
John Madsen ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus) vs. Gilbert Yvel ($30,000)

UFC 121 Medical Suspensions
Patrick Cote 180 days - retina
Chris Camozzi, 60 days - left brow laceration
Dongi Yang, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Court McGee 180 days - possible broken hand; 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Ryan Jensen, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Gilbert Yvel, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Brendan Schaub, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Gabriel Gonzaga, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Tito Ortiz, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Diego Sanchez, 180 days - possible wrist fracture
Paulo Thiago, 60 days - laceration
Jake Shields 180 days - bleeding in eye, blurred vision
Brock Lesnar 180 days - eye; 60 days - cheek laceration

Ahh I remember now. I think it was more like I thought you were stupid for saying Rashad would beat Shogun.........

Splenda Rashad Evans? lol.

That sounds like a Rampage remark. Is it?

Nope not that I can recall lol

To each their own. But I still think Rashad can reclaim his belt. This however is not as stupid as thinking Brock is a great fighter.

What does that mean?

Wow and Brock gets almost half a million to get his ass kicked.

I'm sure Mecca or Hamas could help me here, but I think he made quite a bit more in the WWE, of course he was away from home a lot more.

Because calling himself 'Sugar' after Sugar Ray Robinson is laughable. His boxing is really not that great and all of that showboating bobbing and weaving he does is going to get him severely knocked out one day. He does more bobbing and weaving 20 ft away from opponents just to act, when in reality his boxing is sub-par at best. Splenda is a joke to use because his Boxing is really a cheap knockoff, not the real thing, not Sugar Ray at all.

Not bashing him, I just think his Boxing is WAYYYYY Over-rated. He's still a very good wrestler though and his boxing does what it does, he's great at setting up takedowns with them. I don't dislike him.

Just to Clarify

And that impresses me about as much as if he would have earned more money doing gay porn. In other words who gives a **** about the WWE once you hit puberty.

I want to see him and Page fight again once Page gets that ring rust out from this Machida fight. Rasahad was too scared to stand and trade with Page after all of that BS talking he did about how he was going to beat him down. I think Page at the top of his game destroys Rashad.

The main reason I like him is the amount of growth he has shown in his career. He went from being a a wrestler only to knocking Chuck Lidell the **** out.

LOL, you would be suprised.

......and then being afraid to stand toe to toe with Rampage.......awesome growth.

Thats funny considering he caught Rampage pretty good in round one of that fight. You being such an MMA expert you should appreciate a good game plan.

Well Page is definitely more fluid on his feet, thats for sure. I really can't understand why he decided to stick around at Wolfslair Aka I cant stop a takedown from a 12 year old girl, Glad he is back at Big Bear, Wolfslair was a horrible gym for him, and the decision really confused/pissed me off. He doesn't sound overly optimistic or confident in his new video

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Below are the key things he says in the interview which really makes me feel like he, himself, has given up on fighting in many ways. He's not talking like the old Rampage, and he never once says anything about how he loves fighting but rather he's in it for the money.

"I'm like numb to everything. I'm tired of doing interviews. I'm just working man. I work for a living. The positive things is I get paid to fight. I see it strictly as an occupation, and that's how I see things.

The most depressing quote from Rampage:

"You asked me about titles and stuff. That's not where my mindset is right now."

But then again, he could just be playing mind games, because thats one thing Page has always loved to do, get into the head of his opponent, We will see if this is just one huge elaborate trolljob or not. But I love me some Page.

Jackson has a lot of miles on that body and I'm not sure how dedicated he even is anymore. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Hey, I love me some Rashad, don't get me wrong, he's provided the world with a constant lulz bomb with this picture

http://i49.tinypic.com/2usd6r8.jpg

Rampage was my favorite fighter, up until he went crazy on energy drinks and hit some pregnant lady's car in a big truck with a picture of him on the side.

Now my favorite fighter is Matt Horwich, who might just be plain ole crazy.

So going toe to toe is a measure of growth?

You want the hookup on Horwich? I got it. I'm pretty good friends with the weirdo. Anything you want. I love my Chiefsplanet.

ssshhh.....He is an expert. Never mind having a game plan that will win the fight.

I'm gonna have to say my favorite fighter of the moment is 'Bones' Jones.

and Lesnar boned his mom.....he's still pretty pissed about it.

I like Bones but I'm still wearing rose colored glasses and riding the Cain bandwagon, and no it's not new, somewhere in the beginning of this thread I predicted his championship.

Also, if anybody here at the Planet needs ANYTHING MMA related, whether it be questions to fighters, MMA memorobelia, Anything, I'm your guy.

not after that many months of big talk about how he was going to stand toe to toe with Page and make him eat his fist, etc so forth and so on, and then went into each round and scored a takedown, then pressed Page up against the fence to keep from getting hit. That's pussy. That's chicken shit. It's still fighting. I don't respect a guy that talks about how he's going to put his fist down a guys throat then shows he is too scared to stand and trade with the man. NO I don't respect Rashad and I think he's a coward for that.

Dana, is that you?

Ok, can you get me a years worth of free training at Jackson's or AKA or ATT or Extreme Couture?



It was worth a shot.

If he ever fights in KC for Bellator again, I would definitely go and watch him fight. His interviews crack me up and his fight against Thales Leites was the shiiiiiiit.

I love a new guy opening his mouth in these threads. How did that work out for CoMo and MadMax? Not too good.

That interview makes me think that Page was possibly having a really bad day and just wanted to be left the F alone.........

His fight with Machida will be very telling about where his career is.

I'm very disappointed (aka bummed TF out) Tito Ortiz dropped so much since being lightweight champ. I loved his fight style and how he managed to take on the overwhelming BJJ discipline that currently dominates UFC.

He was definitely one of my favorites. Here's to a comeback Tito! :toast:

ROFL No no no, I do some work for an MMA org, I also run an MMA website and get certain press credentials at certain events, and I know a lot of fighters and I like to help out my buddies get what they want, I've always been that kind of a guy, and If my buddies are ever in need of something related to MMA, I always do my best to try and help.

I can't get you freebies there, but if you wanted to go train for a few days at Grudge (Jacksons sister school) or AKA I could probably get you the hookup...lol

rightfully so when he sets PPV buy records....without him who knows how many people would watch. he brings a whole seperate audience to those PPV's.

It was already mentioned here, but when Dana got into the ring after the fight, the look on his face was like "where in the **** did all of my $$$ just go to?" LOL.

Then The Undertaker (which supposedly was staged) was at ringside and looked at Brock while he was walking out...."'Ya wanna do it?" Lesnar just looked at him like WTF?!, Supposedly Brock Lesnar wants a shit ton more money from White.....and Vince McMahon is ready to write a bigass check to Lesnar should he come back to Wrestlemania and wrestle with the Undertaker. Dana says it won't happen. I don't think it will either. Brock hates that business and what it does physically to him, esp with him having another baby girl etc, life on the road that much is hard.

He'll be back probably in 10months, with another Frank Mir beatdown (god i hope not) or a fight against Roy Nelson or hell I dunno, it's going to be a year at least before Lesnar gets another title shot (should he win his matches).

I will keep that in mind and definitely be on the lookout, I'll see if I can't get a shirt of him to send you and sign it or something, He's always glad to be very open with his fans and do what he can, hands down one of the nicest guys out there.

I really enjoy watching guys that are dominant like Jones, GSP and Silva. Yeah, I know he isn't in that class YET. But my favorite fighters are the guys that aren't that talented but show heart and are courage in the ring. I like guys like Coulture, Hughes, and Leben.

Can you get backstage (obviously not immediately before or after the fights) but maybe day or two before to get some pics taken with some of the fighters?

That would be some kick ass scrap book shit there and some bragging rights at class.