Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18010761)

On what planet, besides Chiefs Planet, is Walter Nolen falling out of the top 15?

I'm genuinely curious. I've seen a lot of shit about this and I just can't reconcile that.

To me, he's an even better prospect than Jalen Carter was and he went 9th with character flaws. The only thing that pushes him down a little bit more than maybe Carter is that Mason Graham is going top 5-6.

Nolen isn't making it within any stratosphere of the Chiefs' pick. Bank it.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18010777)

He shouldn't, but for whatever reason, all the noise seems to indicate he will.

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 18010320)

Elijah Arroyo Miami Hurricanes TE is my darkhorse pick

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18010824)

I think the "noise" is 9 parts bullshit and 1 part some semblance of truth. "He's got attitude issues," and "he didn't work out at the combine" does not equate to "he's going to fall to the 2nd round." This is where I agree with Daniel Kelly. Come up with some sort of concrete evidence that he has character flaws, and I'll believe it. Until then, it looks like way too much pre-draft chatter bullshit.

Unless Nolen is actively in a gang or some shit, he's probably not dropping outside of the top 20. I don't even think he'll make it that far. He's too good as a 4-3 3T or a 3-4 5T. He is pure disruption, and his run defense isn't half as bad as is currently made out.

Sometimes, consistently good players get overanalyzed. I'd say Kelvin Banks fits in that demographic as well.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18010124)

Who’s the most out of left field, black swan, unexpected 1st round pick you think we could take?

Mine would be RB Henderson.

Jeanty goes in the top 12 to LV, CHI, or DAL, and Hampton to one the those or DEN… leaving Henderson as the potential next up RB on the board.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18010411)

I just don't see what's special about Hampton to the point that we'd take him over a slew of other similarly situated prospects at positions of far greater need.

Especially when you look at the RB depth in this class.

I mean there are folks that are in love with the guy and man, I just don't see it. He's fine. Probably gonna be a good player. But he's not a game-breaker. He's not a guy that fundamentally alters how defenses have to play this offense.

He's also not someone that's likely to see a 2nd contract here by virtue of the position he plays.

I mean we've gone from mocking Crow for Gibbs or that other knucklehead for his fascination with Jonathan Taylor to now wanting a guy in Hampton who's not as good a prospect as either of them.

It's odd. I don't get it.

Mostly I hope some team takes him in the top 20. Then everyone gets to be happy. Y'all get to be right because Hampton went high. I get to be happy because we didn't use a 1st rounder on him.

Everyone wins.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18011152)

Bradyn Swinson, EDGE, LSU

https://x.com/billym_91/status/1904942265438437839?s=46

Great tape against top competition. Great pass rush win rate. I think he's very underrated and in that tier of pass rushers.

Not including him in this list because there's not much 1st round buzz, but he'd be on the bubble of my list at worst.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18011173)

Would have liked to see a lot more alignment at 5 instead of 7-9 is my main complaint. Prove you can win when you have to beat the guy in front of you type of thing.

I think there are too many quality rushers in front of him to get him into anything more than the very back end of the 2nd round. He's not going to top Tuimoloau, Scourton, Sawyer, Jackson, or a similar-ish rusher in Umanmielen. I do think he fits in right behind that group though. I'd put him over Burch, Kennard, Gillotte, Oladejo, etc. I think he has some traits you want to work with but he's going to need some work yet. I'd probably take him at 66, maybe even 63 if all those other dudes are gone but if they are then some other talent fell too.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18011173)

Would have liked to see a lot more alignment at 5 instead of 7-9 is my main complaint. Prove you can win when you have to beat the guy in front of you type of thing.

I think there are too many quality rushers in front of him to get him into anything more than the very back end of the 2nd round. He's not going to top Tuimoloau, Scourton, Sawyer, Jackson, or a similar-ish rusher in Umanmielen. I do think he fits in right behind that group though. I'd put him over Burch, Kennard, Gillotte, Oladejo, etc. I think he has some traits you want to work with but he's going to need some work yet. I'd probably take him at 66, maybe even 63 if all those other dudes are gone but if they are then some other talent fell too.