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kccrow 02-17-2025 02:17 PM

Tuten has become my guy. Elite speed. Good runner and receiver. Good vision, great contact balance. He's at least a willing pass blocker but he needs a lot of coaching there. He's a discount Henderson for me. We should be able to get him at the bottom of the 4th. I like the value there. His biggest issue for me is fumbles but I remember Jamaal having that issue coming out too and he corrected it.

Spending a day 1 or 2 pick on a RB just seems foolish for an Andy Reid offense. I just don't think we rely enough on a RB to justify spending a high pick on one. If we did, I might be pounding the table for a guy like Omarion Hampton in the 1st or Kaleb Johnson in the 2nd. Those guys look like 3-down horses.

RunKC 02-17-2025 02:30 PM

That’s interesting. Tuten is comped to Pacheco with the same vision issues. Wouldn’t be a bad day 3 pick.

Would also be good on kickoff returns too

CatfishBob2 02-17-2025 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17971768)
Tuten has become my guy. Elite speed. Good runner and receiver. Good vision, great contact balance. He's at least a willing pass blocker but he needs a lot of coaching there. He's a discount Henderson for me. We should be able to get him at the bottom of the 4th. I like the value there. His biggest issue for me is fumbles but I remember Jamaal having that issue coming out too and he corrected it.

Spending a day 1 or 2 pick on a RB just seems foolish for an Andy Reid offense. I just don't think we rely enough on a RB to justify spending a high pick on one. If we did, I might be pounding the table for a guy like Omarion Hampton in the 1st or Kaleb Johnson in the 2nd. Those guys look like 3-down horses.

I would be partial to Tuten as a VT fan and a bigger fan of the previous school he was at but I'd much rather go after a back like Hampton who could squeeze something out of nothing and fall forward a few yards. We should be punishing teams loading up to stop Pat. It's time for us to go after a special RB and those are hard to find after Day 2

Couch-Potato 02-17-2025 05:32 PM

Tuten’s Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-32q8DjMgkU

I haven’t watched his actual tape, but in his highlight real he shows plenty of vision.

Uses his blockers well to set up big plays, doesn’t just run full speed.

I’m very interested.

Couch-Potato 02-17-2025 05:37 PM

I like all of em lol…

Jeanty
Hampton
Johnson
Henderson
Judkins
Sampson
Neal
B. Smith
Tuten
Harvey
Gordon

Hey Veach, let’s just get crazy and go all Mike Ditka and Rickey Williams on this draft for Jeanty!?

Who else?

SAGA45 02-17-2025 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17971200)
Highest volume receiving back in CFB last year with 64 receptions.

6 ft
207 lbs
10.25 hands

3 down back looks like a natural fit in our offense.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeQuint Allen is the MOST UNDERRATED player in the entire 2025 NFL Draft.<br><br>He has 2836 yards, 30 TDs, and 118 MTF in the last 2 seasons. He is a dangerous receiving threat, only dropping 4% of targets with 104 catches.<br><br>I currently have a day 2 grade on him in a stacked RB class. <a href="https://t.co/qUjfkiynOS">pic.twitter.com/qUjfkiynOS</a></p>&mdash; NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DF/status/1885755712858423736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems like the type that Veach picks late that nobody knows about until lthey look up his film and get amped about him. Good find!

Mosbonian 02-18-2025 09:28 AM

From one of the lists posted earlier in this thread, here is what I would have on my list of RB pick ups....


Ashton Jeanty, Boise State-(Pretty good bet that Jeanty will not last to us, but if for some wild reason he dropped to us, I would pull the trigger....)

Omarion Hampton, North Carolina
TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State
Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State
Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State
Dylan Sampson, Tennessee
Devin Neal, Kansas
Jarquez Hunter, Auburn

I could see Nate Noel as a late round option or even an undrafted pick up but I would not spend an early pick on him (Round 1-5)

As a question for the rest of the crowd......why is everyone down on Samaje Perine? For the role he was asked to play, I thought he was a good pickup.

Also.....why does everyone think we should keep Carson Steele.....to me he pretty much fizzled after the early hype.

I know they will continue to ride with Pacheco but as stated here on other posts, he seems to be bad about reading his blockers and loves to run over people too much. Hunt was a good pickup but how much does he have left in the tank?

Couch-Potato 02-19-2025 10:22 AM

I like Perine just fine, buuut memories of McKinnon get in the way of calling him a true impact and I wouldn’t mind replacing him.

Pachecco will be on the last year of his rookie deal, super cheap, so I assume we keep him but I’d like to see us find his replacement. We’re not paying his 2nd contract.

DJ's left nut 02-19-2025 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17971200)
Highest volume receiving back in CFB last year with 64 receptions.

6 ft
207 lbs
10.25 hands

3 down back looks like a natural fit in our offense.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeQuint Allen is the MOST UNDERRATED player in the entire 2025 NFL Draft.<br><br>He has 2836 yards, 30 TDs, and 118 MTF in the last 2 seasons. He is a dangerous receiving threat, only dropping 4% of targets with 104 catches.<br><br>I currently have a day 2 grade on him in a stacked RB class. <a href="https://t.co/qUjfkiynOS">pic.twitter.com/qUjfkiynOS</a></p>&mdash; NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DF/status/1885755712858423736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

{shrug}

Looks like a 3rd day dart throw to me. Doesn't even really move like a RB; super inefficient, IMO. I also don't see any burst to speak of at all.

As far as highlight tapes go, that's not terribly impressive. Looks like a guy who occasionally flashes against inferior athletes. Nice contact balance but he also has that Pacheco sort of approach in that he runs at guys. Except unlike Pacheco, he seems to do it because he realizes he lacks the explosiveness to try to go around them.

Hey, I'm wrong all the time. But I'm not even sure I see an NFL player there. Certainly not someone I'd get excited about.

To each their own.

Looking forward to the week before the draft when we have people talking themselves into him in the 1st round somehow.

DJ's left nut 02-19-2025 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17971443)
Andy is going to love Skattebo.

:Lin:

O.city 02-20-2025 08:05 AM

I want nothing to do with a guy that has to "run thru college defenders" to get yardage.

You aren't going to be successful very long playing that way in the NFL. No thanks.

kccrow 02-20-2025 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17974100)
:Lin:

What's not to like about Skattebo?

RunKC 02-20-2025 12:04 PM

RJ Harvey continues to be interesting as hell. I really like him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career missed tackles forced and yards per touch from the last two RB classes <a href="https://t.co/fNsHiLaxx3">pic.twitter.com/fNsHiLaxx3</a></p>&mdash; Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) <a href="https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1892621818889937070?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career Explosive Run rates from 2025 RBs<br><br>RJ Harvey: 21%<br>Jarquez Hunter: 18.9%<br>Cam Skattebo/Bhayshul Tuten: 18%<br>Marcus Yarns: 17.9%<br>Damien Martinez: 17.8% <a href="https://t.co/oHfAbvtUlI">pic.twitter.com/oHfAbvtUlI</a></p>&mdash; Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) <a href="https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1892433014887420323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 02-20-2025 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974722)
RJ Harvey continues to be interesting as hell. I really like him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career missed tackles forced and yards per touch from the last two RB classes <a href="https://t.co/fNsHiLaxx3">pic.twitter.com/fNsHiLaxx3</a></p>&mdash; Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) <a href="https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1892621818889937070?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career Explosive Run rates from 2025 RBs<br><br>RJ Harvey: 21%<br>Jarquez Hunter: 18.9%<br>Cam Skattebo/Bhayshul Tuten: 18%<br>Marcus Yarns: 17.9%<br>Damien Martinez: 17.8% <a href="https://t.co/oHfAbvtUlI">pic.twitter.com/oHfAbvtUlI</a></p>&mdash; Football Insights �� (@fball_insights) <a href="https://twitter.com/fball_insights/status/1892433014887420323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's perfect for our late 3rd if we miss out on that 2nd tier.

DJ's left nut 02-20-2025 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17974711)
What's not to like about Skattebo?

He's slow and he's taken a lot of abuse in college.

I just don't see a role for him at this level. He appears to be a pretty good route runner but is iffy enough in pass pro that you don't love him as a 3rd down back. He's certainly not someone I'd want to be giving the ball between the 20s because he doesn't have any sort of long speed.

I think he MIGHT be able to give you something similar to what Hunt did this season. But even that might be a stretch as Hunt's vision really is special -- I don't think Skattebo's is; probably merely good.

He might be in my top 15 at RB? maybe. But I'd take Harvey over him for sure. Honestly, I even prefer someone like Damien Martinez. Or take a flyer on an Ollie Gordon. I've already talked about Tuten - I'd definitely prefer him. Probably Sanders out of South Carolina. Antario Brown from NIU is far more intriguing. I mean if I'm going with someone with Skattebo's speed, gimme Phil Mafeh to at least hammer into guys.

There are just a TON of guys I like more than him.

There will be RBs I like more than Skattebo going undrafted. I just can't talk myself into him at all. I mean I'm not a huge fan of, say, Donovan Edwards but I'm not sure why I should think Skattebo is likely to be a better NFL player than him and Edwards could easily end up a UDFA. Or Henry Parrish.

I just don't see much 'there' there.


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