Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17880057)

Fans loved Kenney

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17880013)

When Jack Steadman was named GM in 1966, the NFL was more a car club than a multi-billion $ enterprise...guys with money getting together, show off their cars, but was more of a reason to drink a few beers and show off their status. Hunt ran the Chiefs like this his entire life, he did not have the same drive to win as Al Davis et al, and hired business buddies with little to no football background to run the org. His scouting dept. literally knew as much as you and I about college football with the info we currently have. Drafts were abysmal, there was no focus on QB (even though all the SB champs of the era had HoF QBs)...drafting so high every year, you could hardly miss out on talent, but without a comprehensive rebuild plan like Parcells brought to the moribund Giants, they just floundered year after year. Several franchises did. I think it was Bill Walsh, Parcells, and Joe Gibbs that demonstrated to the league that they will anally rape you in the SB if you don't have a top notch scouting/personell dept., a HC that is also a highly organized CEO, and get a QB capable of running an efficient offense without TOs.

In the decade of the 80s, only Thiesmann and McMahon weren't multi-SB champs, and only the Bears didn't have a multi SB HC.

Originally Posted by LagunaSWana (Post 17880041)

He's been mentioned, but my very 1st thought when seeing this thread title was Todd Blackledge. Not blaming him personally, but just picking him over QBs that had great careers. That pick set the franchise back a decade.

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 17880125)

I personally blame Blacksludge. As I mentioned previously he was/is a grifter. Look at him in the booth. The guy is greasy and sounds like he should be selling high mileage used cars. And it was a hell of a lot more than a decade.

Disclaimer-
I have an "unhealthy" hate for the guy according to my son.

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17878977)

At this point this shit should be buried to never be spoke of a again. Much like a certain kicker. We're on the verge of a 3-peat for Christ sakes so lock this thread. Romper it! Delete it!

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17880131)

9 out of 10 times when someone fails like that it's an organization problem. Like a Bears fan could say man we took Trubisky over Mahomes, when realistically Mahomes probably isn't Mahomes if he goes there.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 17879180)

Without reading all the posts, much of the blame goes to Hank Stram for not bringing on new talent and sticking with the older guys too long until they were done.

They had poor luck drafting Lenny Dawson's replacement. Steve Fuller and Todd Blackledge, both first round picks, were a horrible busts.

The Head Coach choices were pathetic, Marv Levy brought on the winged T which was an embarrassment. John Mackovic was horrible, Frank Ganz was a great special teams coach but not head coach.

Marty was such a welcome relief.

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 17880186)

The biggest reason the Chiefs failed in the 80s can be summed up in two words: Jim Schaaf.

He was the GM after Jack Steadman and kept the job until Carl Petersrn came in 1989. Schaaf was terrible. Just look at the drafts.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17880131)

9 out of 10 times when someone fails like that it's an organization problem. Like a Bears fan could say man we took Trubisky over Mahomes, when realistically Mahomes probably isn't Mahomes if he goes there.

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17880196)

As someone who didn't live through the 70s and 80s, these anecdotes just confirm my beliefs for why current middling franchises are where they are - ownership and management.

Being burned by a bad QB in the first round can set you back years, but purposefully avoiding a first round QB because of that one mistake is a mindset that will set you back decades. Combine that with the list of coaches we had until we got Marty, and it all starts to make sense.

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 17880199)

All true but I still hate Todd B.
oh and Jerry Jones says hey

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17880073)

My father always said Kinney’s numbers were inflated with garbage yards playing catch up while the other team played the clock with a lead. He thought he was meh.

Undoubtedly regardless he never had adequate help.