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Chiefnj2 02-08-2021 08:55 AM

The streaker ran better patterns than Watkins did last night. Bring him in for a look.

siberian khatru 02-08-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 15537912)
The streaker ran better patterns than Watkins did last night. Bring him in for a look.

He'd be great running naked bootlegs

Comanche 02-08-2021 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 15537692)
Agreed. Watkins would be a fantastic #3 receiver for us if he could stay healthy. He can't. We drafted Hardman to potentially replace him. He can't. Bummer situation, but it is what it is.

Veach has a lot of work to do this offseason. OL, DE, LB, WR.

Dump Clark, Watkins, Robinson, Niemann. Draft to replace, and use FA to fill immediate gaps. First priority has to be protecting Mahomes...fix the OL! With Fisher, Schwartz, and LDT returning, we should be able to shore up the line in short order. Maybe move Jones to DE? Jones + KPass with Nnadi + Pennell stuffing the middle? LB has been a shit show for years; might as well scrap that entire crew from coaches down and try something new there? Interesting offseason, for sure

Agree to all except is Schwartz coming back for sure?

Comanche 02-08-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15537741)
It's very optimistic to think that both Fisher and Schwartz return. Both injuries, or in Schwartz case area of injury, are very difficult to return from. I'll be impressed if one of them returns, let alone both.

William Layton Roaf (nickname, "Nasty") played for awhile on bad wheels. Sports medicine is worlds better now than when Roaf played. Maybe Fisher can return, who knows?

scho63 02-08-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15536830)
I may get downvoted for this but it's how I feel.

Time is running short on Hardman. He's getting to the point where he needs to create a bigger role for himself in the offense or else he needs to go.

It's becoming apparent to me that he probably is never going to take the next step.

Still holding out hope but it needs to happen next season and it needs to happen in a big way.

He seems to be following the DRob career path......:(

Pants 02-08-2021 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15537242)
I want that Penn State TE in the draft. TB took away the outside deep throws and everyone else will do that.

Teams will be doing that all next year and another weapon like this kid in the middle of the field will rape LB’s

That only works if you can get to the QB with 4.

Red Dawg 02-08-2021 09:12 AM

Our wrs are overrated. Get past Hill and Kelce and theres not much. Hardman is fast but not much else. Robinson has crazy legs and doesn't know how to turn up field and carry a football. These didnt step up.

kcclone 02-08-2021 09:14 AM

One thing I'll say about this Andy Reid/3 year thing.... If it takes your guys 3 effing years to figure out the offense, you're playing with fire. You're better off drafting OL and D early if that's the case. Use FA and late rounds for WR's and hope you can find some guys that hang on like Pringle and figure out the offense.

I am not sure I believe it is true. It could just be a way to cover for draft picks like Hardman and others who never take off.

Going forward, we're going to have to pay Mahomes. We will need some vet WR's that can come in one 1 year deals and make an impact.

Sure-Oz 02-08-2021 09:25 AM

Need to address the OL and #2 WR first. Hardman isn't it... draft seems to be deep at WR and lineman.
Probably LB and edge but not sure you get a good one after the 1st and 2nd round.

Also that punter was absolute trash...hope he figures it out.

tmax63 02-08-2021 09:30 AM

Problem with last night was that Mahomes never got to his 3rd or 4th read. He had time to look for TH OR TK then run for his life, not even look for TH AND TK.

Pants 02-08-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 15538004)
Problem with last night was that Mahomes never got to his 3rd or 4th read. He had time to look for TH OR TK then run for his life, not even look for TH AND TK.

Even when Mahomes created windows of time for himself, nobody was ****ing open. Neither Hardman, nor Robinson, nor Pringle can get open.

okoyeandcream 02-08-2021 09:53 AM

It's hard for WR to catch the ball when all your QB can do is throw it up and hope for a miracle catch every down

ku_jhawk23 02-08-2021 10:35 AM

These guys are never the first read. Hill, Kelce, or RB are the first reads on almost every pass play. Our line meant that Mahomes never had time to go trough progressions. That's the biggest reason these guys were irrelevant.

notorious 02-08-2021 10:37 AM

Thank goodness Watkins was healthy for this game.

kcclone 02-08-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23 (Post 15538205)
These guys are never the first read. Hill, Kelce, or RB are the first reads on almost every pass play. Our line meant that Mahomes never had time to go trough progressions. That's the biggest reason these guys were irrelevant.


Somewhat true, but Hardman usually stops running or screws up his route even when Mahomes does target him.

D-rob drops a lot of passes.

Your #3/4 guys need to be solid and at least make grabs when they are targeted. These guys are no shows usually.


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