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farmerchief 01-15-2018 09:08 PM

So his job and function is to coach Sutton up enough, he can improve the quality of the defense?

GloryDayz 01-15-2018 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13363783)
I don't know, man.

I think there's a slight possibility that Reid is eying a coach that was either still in the playoffs as of yesterday or possibly still in the playoffs as of today.

I think it's interesting that for the last two hires, Reid reached into the College Coaching ranks and not the NFL.

Agree, it's very interesting..

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bigjosh 01-15-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 13364486)
So his job and function is to coach Sutton up enough, he can improve the quality of the defense?

no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_control_coach

Spoiler!

GloryDayz 01-15-2018 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13363807)
There are many guys (James Bettcher, Steve Spagnuolo to name a few) that don't know their fate.

Reid might be waiting it out.

I actually think this is true. The Chiefs keeping the wagons circled and little to no outside command, at least leaves open the possibility that they're just waiting for somebody from one of the remaining teams.

Then again, I'm a hopeless optimistic. Ha...

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Deberg_1990 01-15-2018 09:21 PM

Solid hire!

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13363783)

I think it's interesting that for the last two hires, Reid reached into the College Coaching ranks and not the NFL.

In one respect, I LOVE that Reid is bringing talent up from the college ranks; hopefully these guys produce and will stick around with the organization for a while.
On the other hand, you're not bringing in anyone to challenge you or to be a legitimate sounding-board as a peer.

Chief Northman 01-15-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13364492)
I actually think this is true. The Chiefs keeping the wagons circled and little to no outside command, at least leaves open the possibility that they're just waiting for somebody from one of the remaining teams.

Then again, I'm a hopeless optimistic. Ha...

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Gosh I hope this is true.

I cannot fathom how a team that was near the bottom of the league statistically in almost every defensive category except for PPG can accept status quo. The eye test is an “eyesore”: flawed alignments, poor block shedding, poor tackling, bad pursuit angles, poor run fits, baffling 3rd down playcalls - anyone with a lick of football knowledge can see plain as day that this unit has relied on turnovers for any relevant success. That is a dangerous approach to take.

If Shurmur goes to NY, I think he will keep Spags as his DC.

The wildcard for KC if in fact there is a shred of hope they make a move at DC lies with Bettcher. 3-4 guy who has had a lot of recent success in Arizona with a solid roster. If Wilks gets the HC gig in Arizona, he will bring in the 4-3 and likely his own staff.

I think it is Bettcher or Spags if a move exists for the Chiefs. Some are talking Adam Zimmer but I think he is a stretch - no coordinating/playcalling experience.

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2018 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13364527)
Gosh I hope this is true.

I cannot fathom how a team that was near the bottom of the league statistically in almost every defensive category except for PPG can accept status quo. The eye test is an “eyesore”: flawed alignments, poor block shedding, poor tackling, bad pursuit angles, poor run fits, baffling 3rd down playcalls - anyone with a lick of football knowledge can see plain as day that this unit has relied on turnovers for any relevant success. That is a dangerous approach to take.

If Shurmur goes to NY, I think he will keep Spags as his DC.

The wildcard for KC if in fact there is a shred of hope they make a move at DC lies with Bettcher. 3-4 guy who has had a lot of recent success in Arizona with a solid roster. If Wilks gets the HC gig in Arizona, he will bring in the 4-3 and likely his own staff.

I think it is Bettcher or Spags if a move exists for the Chiefs. Some are talking Adam Zimmer but I think he is a stretch - no coordinating/playcalling experience.

Unless Gibbs was promoted to co-coordinator. You could then slide Valai to assistant LBs coach.

O.city 01-15-2018 09:46 PM

There’s no damn way they bring back Sutton

The d has been circling the drain in terms statistically for 3 years. Relying on turnovers won’t work forever

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13364508)
In one respect, I LOVE that Reid is bringing talent up from the college ranks; hopefully these guys produce and will stick around with the organization for a while.
On the other hand, you're not bringing in anyone to challenge you or to be a legitimate sounding-board as a peer.

I wonder how much Valai picked up at Georgia. Those Bama DC's love to play them some matchup zone. Which is a staple in Wade Phillips' defense as well. Give Reid credit for this, he did a terrific job between him and Childress of bringing college innovation into the NFL on offense.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13364554)
I wonder how much Valai picked up at Georgia. Those Bama DC's love to play them some matchup zone. Which is a staple in Wade Phillips' defense as well. Give Reid credit for this, he did a terrific job between him and Childress of bringing college innovation into the NFL on offense.

Truth. And watching Mahomes execute this offense with just enough gunslinger to keep the play alive and make the chicken salad is going to be absolutely off the wall fantastic.

Chief Northman 01-15-2018 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13364554)
I wonder how much Valai picked up at Georgia. Those Bama DC's love to play them some matchup zone. Which is a staple in Wade Phillips' defense as well. Give Reid credit for this, he did a terrific job between him and Childress of bringing college innovation into the NFL on offense.

This is a good observation zilla. Maybe Andy is doing some due diligence. Maybe there’s more to it.....
I just hope they don’t go after Mel Tucker - he is awful as an NFL coordinator.

farmerchief 01-15-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13364490)
no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_control_coach

Spoiler!

I keep forgetting it's hard to interpret sarcasm, on the net.:hmmm:

bigjosh 01-15-2018 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 13364572)
I keep forgetting it's hard to interpret sarcasm, on the net.:hmmm:

lol, sorry. I didnt mean to come across as a dick there. I honestly had to look up what a quality control coach does.

KChiefs1 01-15-2018 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13363718)
Sutton's staying... sad reality it is.



Yep


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