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chiefzilla1501 12-16-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 11196989)
Either of those places would make teams I hate better. Seems his wife really likes Cali, so I fear that Oakland is a real threat. I guess in the end it depends on how strong his wifes feelings are, and if he wants to leave the NFL without winning a SB.

I just don't see any way a guy who's going to be one of the most sought after head coaching candidates will go to a place where coaches go to die especially after how much he fought with the 49ers front office. I hate Michigan too. But they can be a recruiting powerhouse, the Big 10 is soft right now, and Harbaugh will have a guaranteed job whereas Oakland fires coaches every other year.

Mother****erJones 12-16-2014 06:55 PM

Not a chance

Window Licking Whiner 12-16-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11196670)
The Chiefs should win the division next year.


Sure if Peyton dies, rivers becomes paralyzed and Oakland goes to the ncaa.

BigMeatballDave 12-16-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gopack_vag (Post 11197069)
Sure if Peyton dies, rivers becomes paralyzed and Oakland goes to the ncaa.

SD hasn't won the division since 09.

Stick to your own conference.

jdubya 12-16-2014 07:39 PM

Only browsed the last couple of pages but it seems some are a little behind in the news regarding the Raiders. The days of the Raiders firing HC`s every 1 1/2 years seems to be over. Looks like Mark Davis has more patience than his dad otherwise McKenzie and Allen would have been gone 2 years ago. Having said that, no matter what coach was hired after McKenzie took over was destined to be the lame duck coach while the Raiders purged their roster of outrageous contracts and Al`s scholarship players. That took 2 years to do. They also had very few draft picks the first 2 drafts thanks to the previous sins of Al davis. This years roster was the start of a few young foundational players and a few FA`s picked up on 1 year deals so not to affect next years salary cap. This offseason, the Raiders will have all their draft picks beginning with a top 3 pick and they have a boat load of salary cap space. Davis intends to hire a "real" HC this time around and may get some qualified candidates to come talk because for the first time in over a decade, the franchise is fiscally sound and the FO is getting more stable (again, Mark davis appears to have more patience than his dad)

Now on Harbaugh. Don`t really like him myself because he just rubs me the wrong way but he has won everywhere he has coached. Yes he took over a stacked Niner team but he made them formidable winners. Local rumor has it that before the ink was dry on his contract, there was already bad blood between him and owner York so he was never going to last very long with SF. The Niners this year are currently 7-7 but maybe that is what happens when you are missing Patrick Willis, 2/3rds of your Oline, your QB sack leader Aldon Smith etc for most of the year….The niners were snake bit this year with multiple key injuries.

My guess is the HC for the Raiders will be either Harbaugh, the Walrus (Holmgren) or Rex Ryan……other longer shots may include Del Rio, John Pagano or Stanfords current HC.

Rausch 12-16-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 11197130)
Only browsed the last couple of pages but it seems some are a little behind in the news regarding the Raiders. The days of the Raiders firing HC`s every 1 1/2 years seems to be over. Looks like Mark Davis has more patience than his dad otherwise McKenzie and Allen would have been gone 2 years ago. Having said that, no matter what coach was hired after McKenzie took over was destined to be the lame duck coach while the Raiders purged their roster of outrageous contracts and Al`s scholarship players. That took 2 years to do. They also had very few draft picks the first 2 drafts thanks to the previous sins of Al davis. This years roster was the start of a few young foundational players and a few FA`s picked up on 1 year deals so not to affect next years salary cap. This offseason, the Raiders will have all their draft picks beginning with a top 3 pick and they have a boat load of salary cap space. Davis intends to hire a "real" HC this time around and may get some qualified candidates to come talk because for the first time in over a decade, the franchise is fiscally sound and the FO is getting more stable (again, Mark davis appears to have more patience than his dad)

Now on Harbaugh. Don`t really like him myself because he just rubs me the wrong way but he has won everywhere he has coached. Yes he took over a stacked Niner team but he made them formidable winners. Local rumor has it that before the ink was dry on his contract, there was already bad blood between him and owner York so he was never going to last very long with SF. The Niners this year are currently 7-7 but maybe that is what happens when you are missing Patrick Willis, 2/3rds of your Oline, your QB sack leader etc for most of the year….The niners were snake bit this year with multiple key injuries.

My guess is the HC for the Raiders will be either Harbaugh, the Walrus (Holmgren) or Rex Ryan……other longer shots may include Del Rio, John Pagano or Stanfords current HC.

TL/DR...

Just Passin' By 12-16-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 11196940)
Declining? He's winning right?

That team put up 606 points last year. It's at 407 right now. Are you expecting them to finish the season with back-to-back 100 point games, or are you going to accept that the offense is not the same?

RINGLEADER 12-16-2014 07:44 PM

Carr is average.

Rausch 12-16-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 11197140)
Carr is average.

He's nothing great right now but if Oakland doesn't completely ruin him he should be a solid starter...

BigMeatballDave 12-16-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 11196940)
Declining? He's winning right?

If you can not see he's declining, your ignorance on the sport is glaring.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-16-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11197146)
If you can not see he's declining, you're ignorance on the sport is glaring.

That has been obvious from day one. The decline and In men.

Brock 12-16-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 11197130)
Only browsed the last couple of pages but it seems some are a little behind in the news regarding the Raiders. The days of the Raiders firing HC`s every 1 1/2 years seems to be over..

How does it seem to be over? The last one was like a month and a half ago.

TimeForWasp 12-16-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11190047)
Did someone really just post that the Raiders are the franchise the Chiefs should be trying to emulate? I understand we're frustrated right now, but holy ****. This is a new level of stupidity. Even for Inmen.

He keeps adding levels.

splatbass 12-16-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 11190066)

Yeah, that better offense that Oakland has really got them a great record.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 12-16-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11196999)
I just don't see any way a guy who's going to be one of the most sought after head coaching candidates will go to a place where coaches go to die especially after how much he fought with the 49ers front office. I hate Michigan too. But they can be a recruiting powerhouse, the Big 10 is soft right now, and Harbaugh will have a guaranteed job whereas Oakland fires coaches every other year.

Harbaugh's first NFL gig was with Al Davis, and he has a soft spot for the Davis family. They would literally hand him the keys and say go. He would be able to stay in the bay and he would basically answer to no one but Mark. As for the remark about coaching turnover, Allen had over two years to show something, and the team actually got worse. Sparano is a stopgap and he has at times been able to get that team to occasionally show some signs of life


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