The fact that you "aren't opposed" to drafting T'eo #1 is why you are a dumbass.

Great post. Stats to support what I was saying. You can basically do that with every position. The QB is the constant.

For us? I agree. QB is the largest, most glaring need for us. That doesn't automatically make our first pick a QB. If you have a guy that you KNOW will fit your system, a guy you KNOW is YOUR GUY, and you can get him in the 2nd, why not fill another hole with another guy? I'd be all over it if that happens to be the case.

Despite your theory behind payscales being true, you are under the impression that because you don't have to pay them, somehow automatically makes them the #1 pick.

With that analogy, the top 10 QB's of this draft should be taken unanimously as the top 10 picks.

That is not how the draft works. You draft for what you need, what you could use, and you certainly draft guys out there that have a few question marks, but are known to be solid football players (BPA in later rounds).

Just because we need a QB doesn't dictate us using it as our #1 pick, just yet. Like I said, if Albert is gone, LT is a lock for our #1 pick.

Having read this response, I can tell that your emotion is in this. You want a QB or no draft at all. You don't care if our roster is full of undrafted free agents out of northern canada, as long as we spend our first pick on a QB.

The point I brought up with Stanzi and the then current FO/Staff, was that we got a guy our HC liked and wanted to start the year before, a guy who came from Pioli's #1 scouted college, and after 2 years, he hasn't started a game. He's the best QB on the roster if you compare College to College, but we won't even give him a snap. In the last game of the season, in a season where all hope is lost because we lack a QB, you don't think, hey, maybe we should give our #3 guy a chance to play and take a shot at him actually being like the next Tom Brady, someone he was compared to in the draft. You can't fool yourself thinking Crennel and Pioli were the only ones to have input on that decision.

As for the rest, I never said I was wanting to wait for the next "luck". I've already stated I want to get a QB in this draft, and early. I've been a big fan of drafting a QB in the last 5 drafts here because there are guys I legitimately want this team to draft because I think they'll fit well, and we don't always end up with them, but hey, I'm not the GM or Coach, I have no input here.

What I did say, and I stick by it, is that I'll gladly spend that #1 draft pick on ANYONE, be it Te'o, Smith, or even an LT if we lose Albert, as long as we aren't making a huge "WTF?" mistake. As in, if Geno blows the combine up and ends up being the real deal in terms of metrics and elevates himself from the field of players, I'm all for it. I'll be pissed if he doesn't get picked. But if all of the QB class decides to shit the bed in the combine and pro days, and a guy like Te'o blows up, I'm going to be pissed that we would pick Geno, and not Te'O, because the selection will feel forced, dirty, as if our only reasoning to draft him, was because we haven't taken a chance on a QB in however long.

That, right there, is the mentality I hate. The Mentality you are working from. Jacksonville did the same thing, do you think they liked their Gabbert selection? Gabbert was a much worse QB in college than Stanzi, and we've yet to play the kid. But, as the kids would put it, Jacksonville was "thirsty" for a QB, and they took a shot. Now look at their team, #2 draft pick this year.

Done deal.

I have, and I'm impressed, but having watched Pat White play a similar game in college, ending up a late round pick, and then going to play baseball, I'm a little skeptic on West Virginia/Virginia Tech QB's transitioning to the pros. I want to see Senior Bowl tape, Combine data, Pro Day workouts, before I jump on that bandwagon.

Yea, let's compare Geno Smith to a 6'0" 190 run-first QB in pat white who didn't even run the same system. ****ing idiots.

You can't say wasting a #1 on an ILB is stupid, after saying you'd rather take a punter, you just cannot do that.

Taking a QB just because it is your weakest position on your team, with your first pick, does not guarantee that you drafted right. I'm all for drafting right. Again, if we lose Albert, its going to be LT, then QB, then CB in this draft. If we don't, then it'll likely be QB, then CB, then ILB. However, again, if Te'o separates himself so much that he is just the golden ****ing child of the sport, and no QB separates themselves, I'm taking Te'o with my first, and whoever fits our style in the 2nd. No questions asked. That right there, is smart drafting.

Seriously? Have you seen the roster? Is this a joke? You're joking right?

If he does all that and Geno and Barkley, and Bray and whoever else post 20's on the lic and look like Croyle in drills, I'm taking Te'O all day.

I'm completely okay with trading and staying in or near the top 10 and acquiring an additional 2nd. In fact, that is probably the safest thing we can do, and I love safe, especially when there isn't a QB that separates himself. If Geno does, however, I'm taking Geno in a new york minute.

A point about Cousins though, we haven't seen Stanzi play yet, but in College Stanzi ****ing clowned on Cousins all day every day, I wouldn't trade for Cousins at all because of the cost you'd incur from that ransom lol.

Really? Is that why Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have superbowl rings in the last 15 years? lol

I think you meant "You're" an idiot. I'm actually quite intelligent, thanks sweetheart. I realize that you are really mad and cannot understand the concept of rationalizing logic here, at least to the extent of my standpoint and trying to analyze every possible outcome here to make the RIGHT pick, not the Safe pick, but it is getting annoying listening to you call me an idiot when you cannot even grammatically form a sentence without major errors.


That being said, you and I seem to be at an impasse, even before we get down to who or what we should draft.

You seem to be under this idea that Luck is already better than everyone else in the league.

Let me paint you a better picture, one easily digested.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees. Those are the three best QBs to ever play the position. They are all under contract coming off of good or great seasons, and will play next year.

You're going to tell me that in the last 30 years there hasn't been a lock like Luck, who at the current state, is barely a top 20 QB in his rookie year, when a guy like Peyton Manning just came off of a Neck injury and is a top 5 QB at his age?

You are going to say he wasn't a lock? Peyton Manning is the most cerebral QB to ever play this game, and only Tom Brady jumps ahead of him as the "best" in the argument.

I'm the idiot, and you're saying there hasn't been a "luck lock" since Elway.......with Peyton Manning...........Peyton Manning in the picture. Peyton Manning we could have signed last year had we not had Pioli.

And you call me the idiot when you forgot about Peyton Manning.

Let that sink in.

JFC

Yea, whatever noob. I can't fix stupid - and learn the lexicon.

I was giving means to my skepticism, sorry for not swallowing Geno's balls as I try to evaluate a guy without bias. Jesus Christ you people are mad if anyone even SUGGESTS not taking Geno with the first pick of the draft.

I bet you want us to select him with your 2nd pick as well, just so people know how badly we need a QB.

****ing ignorant bandwagoneers.

ROFL

Care to explain the difference between you are and you're? ****ing moron.

The way he said it, implied that I was in possession of an idiot. The way he meant to say it, was that I AM an idiot. There's a difference and "your" is possessive, which was improperly used.

"****ing Moron"

So you quoted me and were talking to someone else... intelligence.

Don't huff the nitrous oxide, it can be bad for you long term. Or at least let it wear off before you post.

With so many arguments from so many angles, do you blame me for making a mistake?

Oh noes, I'm human. Sorry to let you down.

I agree with that. Its easy to find a very good ILB in the 3rd or 4th round because nobody drafts them.