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Saccopoo 10-18-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 6186811)
This. If there is one thing we cannot afford to give up at this point, it is OL of any quality. Move DJ or Morgan. I don't care. But we should be acquiring OL, not considering dealing them. If only we had taken a LT at #3, instead of Jackson, we might be looking good.

I'm pretty convinced that if we don't take Jackson, our run defense is even worse this year than last, and I don't even know if that's actually possible to achieve.

It's not a flashy pick, and he won't ever have the stats because of the system and position he plays, but in hindsight, it was a solid pick. And the only LT that I would have drafted last season to be a LT was Oher or Monroe (I liked Oher better though), and if the Chiefs picked him at #3, you would have seen a meltdown of epic proportions.

kcchiefsus 10-18-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6186933)
Jake Long, Marcus McNeill and Ryan Clady would disagree with your three year timeframe for left tackles to show their potential.

McNeill regressed in his second season and Jake Long has regressed this year.

Saccopoo 10-18-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6186925)
Well we don't have to worry about that this year since there isn't a franchise caliber LT in this years draft.

I think that Okung is and will be a good LT in the NFL.

However, outside of him, I don't see much other than Zane Beadles of Utah. He's mean as shit, strong as a bull and is putting a guy on the ground on about every single play. Excellent footwork and has the agility to get out and block on the second level. I don't know if it's because he looks like a guard more than a typical LT and that he plays in the MWC, but he should be a lot higher on those "draft guru" sites than he is. He's completely legit, and I think he's a better player than former Ute and first rounder Jordan Gross. Might be better as a right tackle because of his nasty demeanor and strength, but it would almost be a waste of his footwork and agility. One of those guys who could/can be very effective on either side.

Ciron Black of LSU, is immense and talented, but his foot work and agility isn't as good as guys like Okung and Beadles, so he'll probably be looked at as a RT in the NFL even though he's been a very good LT for all four years at LSU.

I haven't seen enough of Fox at Miami (one game this season, and I was a little in the tank during it so I didn't pay enough attention to him), but have heard good things.

Charlie Brown at USC just isn't strong enough to hold off NFL level DE's. He couldn't hold the point of attack versus the ND guys and didn't seem to be able to push guys out and around.

RustShack 10-18-2009 11:36 PM

Okung IS Albert. Difference is Okung didn't have Ferguson and Monroe playing with him forcing him inside. Also Okung is a spread LT right now, meaning he will take a few years to progress in the NFL, which you know would just set us back even more since we are already going through that transition with Albert.

Tribal Warfare 10-18-2009 11:37 PM

One issue that would impede an Albert trade is currently Branden doesn't have great trade value do to his problems.

Saccopoo 10-18-2009 11:37 PM

I don't want to give up on Albert either, but drafting a LT does solve two problems on the line in that you can move Albert back to his college guard position and you've upgraded two positions on the line. God knows we need to basically upgrade every position on the O-line, and that would be a good way to do it. I'm not so concerned about Albert not being our LT just because we spent a #15 pick on him, but rather that this line gets a lot better sooner rather than later. If he can be an All-Pro level guard along with the Chiefs getting a stud LT, that's okay by me.

RustShack 10-18-2009 11:39 PM

I don't think Albert can be traded anyways... hes hurt right now and I don't think you can trade hurt players can you?

kcchiefsus 10-18-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6186951)
I don't think Albert can be traded anyways... hes hurt right now and I don't think you can trade hurt players can you?

Sure you can, why couldn't you? If a teams will to take the risk then by all means he can be traded. It just rarely happens because the players trade value is lower due to the injury.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-18-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6186299)
I don't buy for one minute they don't like Brendan Albert.

Yeah, this seems like horse shit. If they've managed to find workable ground with Dorsey, I can't see throwing Albert out the door.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-18-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6186925)
Well we don't have to worry about that this year since there isn't a franchise caliber LT in this years draft.

Your avatar is awesome. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

ChiefsCountry 10-18-2009 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6186943)
I think that Okung is and will be a good LT in the NFL.

Yeah lets take the spread offense tackle who got abused last night by Mizzou in the first round. LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-19-2009 12:00 AM

Okung got repeatedly pushed in the backfield by Aldon Smith, who he outweighs by 50 pounds. On top of that, Smith beat him around the edge several times.

No to BlOkung.

Mecca 10-19-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6186943)
I think that Okung is and will be a good LT in the NFL.

However, outside of him, I don't see much other than Zane Beadles of Utah. He's mean as shit, strong as a bull and is putting a guy on the ground on about every single play. Excellent footwork and has the agility to get out and block on the second level. I don't know if it's because he looks like a guard more than a typical LT and that he plays in the MWC, but he should be a lot higher on those "draft guru" sites than he is. He's completely legit, and I think he's a better player than former Ute and first rounder Jordan Gross. Might be better as a right tackle because of his nasty demeanor and strength, but it would almost be a waste of his footwork and agility. One of those guys who could/can be very effective on either side.

Ciron Black of LSU, is immense and talented, but his foot work and agility isn't as good as guys like Okung and Beadles, so he'll probably be looked at as a RT in the NFL even though he's been a very good LT for all four years at LSU.

I haven't seen enough of Fox at Miami (one game this season, and I was a little in the tank during it so I didn't pay enough attention to him), but have heard good things.

Charlie Brown at USC just isn't strong enough to hold off NFL level DE's. He couldn't hold the point of attack versus the ND guys and didn't seem to be able to push guys out and around.

The real elite OT prospect at SC is Tyron Smith...he's only a true sophomore but he has all the talent in the world.

Mecca 10-19-2009 12:07 AM

The only player on OK State who's worthy of a high pick is Dez Bryant and I'm iffy about him...

ChiefsCountry 10-19-2009 12:12 AM

Chiefs have announced several transcations.

The first, the Chiefs have traded Dwayne Bowe to Miami for Ryan Baker, Will Billingsley, JD Folsom, Andrew Hartline, Derrick Jones, Julius Pruitt, James Robinson, and Kory Sperry.

The second, the Chiefs have traded Branden Albert to New England for Titus Adams, Robbie Agone, Kyle Arrington, Bruce Davis, Terrance Nunn, Daryl Richard, Isiaih Stanback and Ryan Wendall.

The third, the Chiefs have traded Derrick Johnson to Dallas for Bobby Carpenter.

:)


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