Though that department does NOT fall short in LMAO-Factor.

Physically everything you want, if you want a QB with a chronic uncurable disease that could end his career at any moment hanging over his head like a ****ing axe. It amazes me how little mention that gets. Even if the guy's last name was Manning, that alone would send up warning flares. Does anybody really think that wasn't a factor in the trade-that-never-was?

There is that.

Seriously. Whiny, sullen AND diabetic? Yeah, there's a guy I want to build my franchise around. :whackit:

LMAO

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...KOMELTDOWN.jpg

You made an argument about the system being all about the Patriots offense being:

That's clearly not the system, as the season before last amply demonstrated. Last season, defenses changed how they were playing and double teamed Moss on pretty much every play by rotating the safety over, which is why the YAC went up so much.

I mean, it's not as if 2007 didn't happen.

The NE passing offense has always been predicated on the YAC instead of the long ball. This was true before Moss. Not sure if you are saying NE is a long-ball team or what you are getting at.

That's not the Patriots passing offense. The Patriots passing offense is based off of both the quarterback and the receiver reading the defenders, while the play is ongoing, and adjusting to the actions of those players. It's not a "Go Deep!/Go short!"Do a 10 yard out!" offense.

That's why Moss was killing people deep 2 years ago.

Of course, one of the real ironies of your comment is that Cassel was #1 in YAC in the AFC this season, but Cutler was #2.

http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/lea...rcatchqbs.html

The Patriots were #3 in the league, with Denver at #5:

http://sports.wcbstv.com/fb/tmleader...iving&rank=231

Edit: for some comparison sake, here's one from the season before (albeit only through 15 weeks), with Brady rather than Cassel:

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2007...-for-pass.html

You can see that Brady's %YAC is actually lower than Cutler's.

Kiper is mad b/c he liked Young and Leinart over Cutler and neither of them is starting...

Again, Jay has his issues, but with the defense giving up 30 points every other game, you can' make up for that every time.

With Kiper throwing a dis at Jeff George how long until Whitlock calls him an 'Assclown' or the Italian equivalent?

The difference was 3 games... and had the NE defense given up 30 points or more in 9 of their games, I'm willing to bet they wouldn't have reached 11 wins. But, don't let that spoil your fun...

That was one Thig-a-riffic take, Mile High! :D

Right. By that logic, Denver's 8-8 was inches from 5-11 (SD, NO, and TB). Not to mention @ Cleveland and Atlanta (easily could have been losses) and your looking at 3-13.

Well, take it however you like... fact remains that most QBs, elite or not, do not consistently win if the defense sucks.

Broncos' DEF gave up 30, 30 and 52 points in the final 3 games... Cutler made 45 and 49 attempts in the last two games. That's a QB playing with no ground game and no defense.

I'm not one of those that thinks he's the second coming of Elway, nothing like that at all. But, he is a good QB with a very nice future... this thing will work itself out.

You can do that with any team...

My point was, the previous poster was simply comparing the two QBs and W/L records... it's just not that simple.

Here's a nice link with QB comparisons. http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3...stats-on-cutle