You are the biggest flip-floper here. It was less than a month ago when you were flashing your Hermines sig.

Yes. I reached my breaking point. Enough was enough.

You must be trolling TJ. If you have been around here at all for the last month, you would have noticed that Herm has worn out his welcome and the only way he will take a team to the SB is if he buys their airfare, hotel and tickets to watch the game.

That's it Zouk we are going to send in Army Group North with the 1ST Panzer Division in after your ass.

I did tell you so... But I was more looking to get a finger on the pulse of Chiefs fans here to learn whether or not he had any fan support whatsoever. It appears it's completely evaporated...

...which makes me wonder about the locker room. I wonder what guys like Tony and LJ are thinking when they suit up before a game. I wonder what the young players are experiencing. I wonder if Herm can hold onto a job all season long if he's a lame duck by October.

I think that it's dangerous to put young players through a lame duck season. If Herm is going to be fired at the end of the season, there is no reason he shouldn't be canned now, and Gunther promoted to interim HC. At the very least, you know that Gunther will kick some asses and get people's attention. But maybe his check has been cashed to (so to speak), and he no longer has credit with the players.

It's a tough situation, but in my estimation, something should be done sooner rather than later if it's going to be done at all. If Herm isn't fired by mid-November, then my hunch is that Carl is receiving no pressure at the top to do it - and thus, you're looking at another season of Herm's plan.

You guys need me as your GM.

All the young players have bought into Herm's bullshit, Taco.

The veterans, not so much.

Based on what I've heard recently, I'm not sure if Herm is going to be fired.

The whole franchise is in a cluster**** at the moment. Too many egos unwilling to take responsibility for their epic failures.

Save us, Clark.

My theory has been that one of the reasons Hermoine decided to can key veterans (Trent Green) was precisely because they weren't buying his bull. It makes sense that LJ stuck around ... he got a whole lot of money and Herm's a black coach (LJ's on the record as saying that white coaches don't understand guys like him), but Gonzo is a different deal - I guess he wanted to stick because he wants to retire a Chief. Either that, or it's true that he didn't really realize when he re-signed how this whole "rebuild" thing was going to go down. Really, our only other veteran is Waters and he's a good soldier, it appears.

The troubling thing about this is that our young players have now been infected by deadly, career-jeopardizing Herms. When God smiles on the franchise at long last and we finally get a new HC, he'll basically have to start all over with a lot of these guys because they'll be all messed up.

FAX

Bad coaching
Bad QB
Handcuffed approach to offense
Bad Oline
Bad Wr's that can't get open
Bad pass rush
Bad LB's
Bad secondary
Bad ST


There isn't one aspect of the game we are even decent at

Our punter is pretty good.

He was before he came down with a limp, anyway.

FAX

Join the other 90% of KC's fanbase who said the same thing.

Yeah, Gunther kicks asses and demands attention.

You apparently haven't watched out defensive unit very much, have you?

No, I think Taco has a point. It was more like 50/50. There were lots of people willing to give Herm a chance, and even more who were willing to give him a chance after his first season, even despite the playoff game. A lot of people blamed that on the players.

Taco never for once had an ounce of respect for Herm Edwards.

Look what happened when Herm brought his Jets into Arrowhead ! I remember that game, what an ass kicking we gave old Herm and his sad sack team. But boy did NYJ and Herm get the last laugh......

The only positive thing Herm supporters have left is Herm is supposedly a "good draft guy".

Carl Peterson has been such a TERRIBLE DRAFTER that it makes Herm "appear" to be a good drafter.

In reality Herm is average draft analyzer at best. A monkey would've known to take Dorsey, and where the hell is our QBOTF if Herm is some drafting guru ?

Give me a break. Analyze this ol' see er of see ers, if your O-line is young and inexperienced should you not have a hearty and hard to break QB behind them ? Oh, that's where the unsinkable Croyle comes in, I forgot Herm....

The best thing Herm's provided this team is the 2008 draft. and it looks like he might not develop those guys appropriately.

The guy can only win with his plan if all players play perfectly and everything goes exactly by the book. He gets killed by other coaches and teams with more creativity.

If you can't develop your draft picks you are in a "hamster wheel" situation.

Moving forward but not going anywhere....