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Fish 09-16-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5027301)
I totally agree. Heck I don't really care if they win or lose just as long as the effort is there and you can see improvement. These young guys are going to make mistakes and I could care less about that.

What I don't want to see is the head coach playing all safe and conservative and not letting the full potential of these young guys shine through. That means stop running 90% of the time up the middle on first and second down.

I really think they're trying to protect the young guys by keeping it conservative and trying to get momentum going with the simple stuff. But for the love of bacon, they've got to get to the point where they say "**** it, let them make mistakes in the passing game, and hopefully the improvement will outweigh the mistakes." With the state of the OLine, that could be a "win big - lose big" decision, but hell it's not like it would ruin the season's aspirations....

Gotta let the dogs loose, or we'll never know what we've got.....

dirk digler 09-16-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5027352)
I really think they're trying to protect the young guys by keeping it conservative and trying to get momentum going with the simple stuff. But for the love of bacon, they've got to get to the point where they say "**** it, let them make mistakes in the passing game, and hopefully the improvement will outweigh the mistakes." With the state of the OLine, that could be a "win big - lose big" decision, but hell it's not like it would ruin the season's aspirations....

Gotta let the dogs loose, or we'll never know what we've got.....

100% agree Fish :thumb:

teedubya 09-16-2008 11:22 PM

Carl can lick my unwashed taint. **** him. And Herm can eat cow dingleberries. **** that guy.

I don't mind rebuilding, when it looks like the person running the team has sense. This ****ing moron starts calling stupid shit. How about basic foundational shit so the team can actually build a solid foundation.

No, lets throw the ****ing option in there, because its part of our long term winning strategy.

Did I mention **** CARL?

FAX 09-16-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5027352)
I really think they're trying to protect the young guys by keeping it conservative and trying to get momentum going with the simple stuff. But for the love of bacon, they've got to get to the point where they say "**** it, let them make mistakes in the passing game, and hopefully the improvement will outweigh the mistakes." With the state of the OLine, that could be a "win big - lose big" decision, but hell it's not like it would ruin the season's aspirations....

Gotta let the dogs loose, or we'll never know what we've got.....

Your words of fishiness ring loudly through the gill slits of truth.

FAX

FAX 09-16-2008 11:40 PM

So ... let me get this straight ... the article vindicates Carl because it states that Carl's demeaning, disrespectful view of the fans is a more accurate, appropriate assessment than Clark's? Is that right?

FAX

BigRock 09-17-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5027461)
So ... let me get this straight ... the article vindicates Carl because it states that Carl's demeaning, disrespectful view of the fans is a more accurate, appropriate assessment than Clark's? Is that right?

Pretty much, yeah. But is it really a demeaning, disrespectful view if it's true? Why not just say "accurate view"?

Logical 09-17-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5027247)
Vindication for Carl?

This is some funny ****ing shit.

The Chiefs are rebuilding and have been in need of a complete enema for more than a ****ing decade.

Yet, Kansas City's main psychiatrist, Carl Peterson, has a solution.

The Chiefs need to be just good enough to give the good people of Kansas City hope. Hope that they'll be in the NFL playoffs and once you're in the "tournament", great things can happen.

Well **** me with a goddamn crystal plunger!

Carl Peterson for President of the Universe!

All Chiefs fans need is HOPE!

AND CHANGE (entire front office to start)

DaneMcCloud 09-17-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5027461)
So ... let me get this straight ... the article vindicates Carl because it states that Carl's demeaning, disrespectful view of the fans is a more accurate, appropriate assessment than Clark's? Is that right?

FAX

In a word, Yes.

Pure, utter bullshit.

Boris The Great 09-17-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5027574)
In a word, Yes.

Pure, utter bullshit.

Except that it is 100% correct. Most of the fans who talked a good game this offseason turned out to be frauds. They say they want a winner, but they gladly spend their money for Carl and his 9-7 crap year after year. And when the team tries to do the right things to build a winner, they freak out because losing ruins their Sunday afternoon.

If the Chiefs had gone out and spent a bunch of cash on overpriced overrated FAs this offseason, the seats would still be full and everyone would be lapping up Carls BS about how the team was just a few players away.

All the masses really care about is a shiny object to distract them on Sunday. How else do you explain the obsession people still have with Dick Vermeil, even though he never won anything and his years here were a disaster for the team.

Tribal Warfare 09-17-2008 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Boris The Great (Post 5027607)
Except that it is 100% correct. Most of the fans who talked a good game this offseason turned out to be frauds. They say they want a winner, but they gladly spend their money for Carl and his 9-7 crap year after year. And when the team tries to do the right things to build a winner, they freak out because losing ruins their Sunday afternoon.

If the Chiefs had gone out and spent a bunch of cash on overpriced overrated FAs this offseason, the seats would still be full and everyone would be lapping up Carls BS about how the team was just a few players away.

All the masses really care about is a shiny object to distract them on Sunday. How else do you explain the obsession people still have with Dick Vermeil, even though he never won anything and his years here were a disaster for the team.

I'll repeat once again, I understand KC is in a rebuilding phase, but their is no signs of progress or signs that the process is working. Essentially, they don't know WTF they are doing.

007 09-17-2008 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5027610)
I'll repeat once again, I understand KC is in a rebuilding phase, but their is no signs of progress or signs that the process is working. Essentially, they don't know WTF they are doing.

He obviously doesn't understand what you understand.

BigRock 09-17-2008 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5027610)
I'll repeat once again, I understand KC is in a rebuilding phase, but their is no signs of progress or signs that the process is working. Essentially, they don't know WTF they are doing.

Because there really should be visible, tangible progress. After two games.

triple 09-17-2008 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5027461)
So ... let me get this straight ... the article vindicates Carl because it states that Carl's demeaning, disrespectful view of the fans is a more accurate, appropriate assessment than Clark's? Is that right?

FAX

so are these Scout people surreptitiously on the Chiefs payroll? you wouldn't know they weren't by reading this crap

triple 09-17-2008 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5027668)
Because there really should be visible, tangible progress. After two games.

the team has been demonstrably worse every year during Herm's tenure. it's not like this started last week

milkman 09-17-2008 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5027218)
And I think that only you and I were saying he was injury prone and incapable of being a franchise QB from the beginning.

And the two of you (who were far from the only two, so get over yourself) may be right, still.

However, the fact that he has played behind some terrible O-Lines in both college and now with the Chiefs just might have something to do with his durability issues.

He's taken a beating.

And anyone who says that hit he took to separate his shoulder woudn't have taken out any other QB is just showing their bias.

His shoulder was ground into the turf.


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