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dirk digler 08-24-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
and i guess my point is that Croyle isn't the problem at all. He will get better etc.

i more worry about the rest of the offense ... which i'm not so sure will get much better.

There maybe some truth to that Laz and I believe the lack of a running game is hurting this team big time.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week when LJ comes back but the O-Line needs to block better especially running the ball.

I heard a Herm quote this afternoon saying that teams are going to stack 8-9 in the box to force the Chiefs to throw so the QB is going to have step up and complete some passes and not turn the ball over.

crazycoffey 08-24-2007 12:55 PM

NO, don't start Huard.

Reerun_KC 08-24-2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
I heard a Herm quote this afternoon saying that teams are going to stack 8-9 in the box to force the Chiefs to throw so the QB is going to have step up and complete some passes and not turn the ball over.

Herm is a dumb shit sometimes.. How about calling out the WR's for failing to catch the ball when it hits them in the numbers? Or for failing to get any seperation at all from the DB's....

Reerun_KC 08-24-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey
NO, don't start Huard.


What ever IT is, you can tell by watching Croyle, he has IT....

dirk digler 08-24-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
Herm is a dumb shit sometimes.. How about calling out the WR's for failing to catch the ball when it hits them in the numbers? Or for failing to get any seperation at all from the DB's....

All 3 of Croyle's INT were bad decisions it had nothing to do with WR's dropping passes.

Herm said last night that the QB can't block or catch the ball so he isn't laying it all on the QB.

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Q: Evaluate Brodie Croyle’s performance?

EDWARDS: “He struggled some but he didn’t get any help either. He can’t catch the ball; he can’t block. That’s not all on the quarterback. Now, the quarterback has to make some plays. He got hit early and has now turned the ball over in [three games.] You can’t turn the ball over. We’ve got a good group of veteran guys on offense that have played a lot of football games. But we’re not functioning very well on offense. We’ve got no rhythm; can’t seem to get any rhythm going. We don’t have enough plays. I think the first series we had eight plays and the next drive six plays. After that it just kind of went away. We never got anything going.

htismaqe 08-24-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
All 3 of Croyle's INT were bad decisions it had nothing to do with WR's dropping passes.

Herm said last night that the QB can't block or catch the ball so he isn't laying it all on the QB.

Croyle's first INT was a bad decision, AFTER being chased out of the pocket because the LT couldn't block my grandma.

Croyle's second INT was a bad decision.

Croyle's third INT was an OBVIOUS miscommunication between him and Kennison and it's quite possible Kennison ran the wrong route.

Reerun_KC 08-24-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
All 3 of Croyle's INT were bad decisions it had nothing to do with WR's dropping passes.

Herm said last night that the QB can't block or catch the ball so he isn't laying it all on the QB.

Missed that part.. what just going by what the other guy said...

Sorry...

Mr. Laz 08-24-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
There maybe some truth to that Laz and I believe the lack of a running game is hurting this team big time.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week when LJ comes back but the O-Line needs to block better especially running the ball.

I heard a Herm quote this afternoon saying that teams are going to stack 8-9 in the box to force the Chiefs to throw so the QB is going to have step up and complete some passes and not turn the ball over.

teams are gonna stack the box because it's martyball-esque


why wouldn't you stack the box if you know the coach lives for run,run,pass,punt.

Reerun_KC 08-24-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
teams are gonna stack the box because it's martyball-esque


why wouldn't you stack the box if you know the coach lives for run,run,pass,punt.


bingo....

There isnt any great mystery in figuring out Herms offense...

El Jefe 08-24-2007 01:21 PM

Start Huard and we will average at least 10 fumbles a game.

Logical 08-24-2007 01:41 PM

Marty never destroyed a young QB by playing him, he destroyed them by never allowing them to play.

Logical 08-24-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
If McIntosh comes back healthy, I think he's a significant upgrade over Svitek.

That alone might be the spark to make the offense considerably better.

But it all hinges on that.

McIntosh might be better than Svitek, hey he cannot be worse, but I don't believe he is that much better and probably about as bad as Jordan Black was last year. What really is important is that we are not game planning to work around the offensive lines weaknesses. Solari/Herm stink when it comes to offensive game planning.

htismaqe 08-24-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Logical
McIntosh might be better than Svitek, hey he cannot be worse, but I don't believe he is that much better and probably about as bad as Jordan Black was last year. What really is important is that we are not game planning to work around the offensive lines weaknesses. Solari/Herm stink when it comes to offensive game planning.

Black = 13.5 sacks

McIntosh = 5.5 sacks

Yeah, McIntosh isn't much better...

MGRS13 08-24-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Croyle's first INT was a bad decision, AFTER being chased out of the pocket because the LT couldn't block my grandma.

Croyle's second INT was a bad decision.

Croyle's third INT was an OBVIOUS miscommunication between him and Kennison and it's quite possible Kennison ran the wrong route.

Dude I agree completly with you that Croyle should start, I even feel as passionately as you do but............you have to stop the excuses for him. Just say "yes he is going to make mistakes but he is our best option." The idea that Kennison is sandbagging Croyle is silly, it's also silly to say he's just trying to hard to "win" the job. He's young and raw hes going to make mistakes we as fans just have to ride it out, but you have got to stop with the conspiracy theorys. I am with you on the Croyle bandwagon but lets just face the facts that we don't know as of yet what we have.

htismaqe 08-24-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13
Dude I agree completly with you that Croyle should start, I even feel as passionately as you do but............you have to stop the excuses for him. Just say "yes he is going to make mistakes but he is our best option." The idea that Kennison is sandbagging Croyle is silly, it's also silly to say he's just trying to hard to "win" the job. He's young and raw hes going to make mistakes we as fans just have to ride it out, but you have got to stop with the conspiracy theorys. I am with you on the Croyle bandwagon but lets just face the facts that we don't know as of yet what we have.

Those aren't excuses, they're reasons.


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