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FloridaMan88 07-28-2023 11:23 AM

Deion’s recruiting connections in a conference that includes a geographic presence in Texas and Florida… gonna be very interesting to watch.

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Coach 07-28-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17033563)
UConn is less than that when it comes to football. They're not even in a conference and have virtually 0 following in football, unlike BYU for instance.

Still, I thought it appears that Fox and ESPN had agreed on pro rata for UCONN which gives the Big 12 that option, as opposed to Memphis who would dilute the pie.

That’s why the Big12 Presidents/Administrators won’t take any G5 team unless they have a lot of value, and not many, if any, have that.

ForeverIowan 07-28-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17033776)
If the ACC were to show cracks, the SEC would pounce on FSU and Clemson in a heartbeat. Same with Miami. The Big 10 probably pounces on UNC, Duke and UVA at minimum.

The Big Ten currently pulls in an insane $ amount per school. I think adding anyone other than Notre Dame dilutes that amount of $ going to each University. It is all dollars and cents. If the bottom line doesn't go up the Big Ten and SEC arent expanding for the sake of expansion. Follow the money.

BWillie 07-28-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 17033871)
Northwestern and Vanderbilt have an ass ton of money

Yale and Harvard have a ton of money too, but nobody wants them

tredadda 07-28-2023 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17034454)
Yale and Harvard have a ton of money too, but nobody wants them

But does Harvard and Yale want any of those conferences?

displacedinMN 07-28-2023 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17034262)
The Big Ten currently pulls in an insane $ amount per school. I think adding anyone other than Notre Dame dilutes that amount of $ going to each University. It is all dollars and cents. If the bottom line doesn't go up the Big Ten and SEC arent expanding for the sake of expansion. Follow the money.


It is all about football. and money

this is crazy s--- to me.



Remember when the big 10 was about alignment of ideas and research????
just saying

displacedinMN 07-28-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17034454)
Yale and Harvard have a ton of money too, but nobody wants them

Big/ACC/SEC/ even the SWC would have crushed them in football.


Besides, Yale and Harvard dont want to be around a bunch of rednecks.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-29-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17033762)
Why don't they kick schools out? There is really no reason for Northwestern, Wake Forest, Vanderbilt to exist in a P5 conference. The rest of the conference members just subsidize them.

The private schools are where the conference hides the bodies. No information act.

Also, kicking schools out of conferences is extremely rare. Last time it happened at the highest level is when the Big East booted Temple football.

No one wants to establish a precedent. If you are Mississippi State, you are the next on the list if they boot Vandy. It is better to tolerate what Vandy brings to the table (elite academics, solid Olympic sports, and easy football win (every conference needs some easy wins) than trying to kick them out.

Pablo 07-29-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17035019)
It is better to tolerate what mu brings to the table (easy football win (every conference needs some easy wins) than trying to kick them out.

Agreed.

BWillie 07-29-2023 11:14 AM

BEST REALISTIC CASE SCENARIO FOR THE BIG 12??
1. Arizona, Oregon, and Washington to reach 16
2. Arizona to reach 14
3. Arizona, Arizona State & UCONN to reach 16
4. Arizona, Arizona State & Utah to reach 16
5. Arizona State to reach 14
6. UCONN to reach 14.
7. Utah to reach 14.

First of all, none of the ACC schools at least at this point is a realistic option until their GOR runs out or gets closer to running out. I think obviously the Big 12 wants Oregon, Washington and Arizona. I think the most likely team to go to the Big 12 if it is only one team is Arizona. I'm sure Arizona prefers to bring Arizona State but what difference does it make to bring them both from a Big 12 perspective? The same thing for Utah as the conference already has BYU. I think Houston may be an exception because of just how valuable being deeply entrenched in the Texas market is in terms of value. Texas is just kind of a different state/area for football than any other area/state.

You can tell the Big 12 is clearly thinking in terms of TV revenue and geographic exposure as they made sure to get UCF to get the Florida market and Cincinnati to get the rustbelt market and then BYU to get the Utah area market. I think the Big 12 wants UCONN more than people think and wants Utah less than they think.

What say you?

Chiefspants 07-29-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17035125)
BEST REALISTIC CASE SCENARIO FOR THE BIG 12??
1. Arizona, Oregon, and Washington to reach 16
2. Arizona to reach 14
3. Arizona, Arizona State & UCONN to reach 16
4. Arizona, Arizona State & Utah to reach 16
5. Arizona State to reach 14
6. UCONN to reach 14.
7. Utah to reach 14.

First of all, none of the ACC schools at least at this point is a realistic option until their GOR runs out or gets closer to running out. I think obviously the Big 12 wants Oregon, Washington and Arizona. I think the most likely team to go to the Big 12 if it is only one team is Arizona. I'm sure Arizona prefers to bring Arizona State but what difference does it make to bring them both from a Big 12 perspective? The same thing for Utah as the conference already has BYU. I think Houston may be an exception because of just how valuable being deeply entrenched in the Texas market is in terms of value. Texas is just kind of a different state/area for football than any other area/state.

You can tell the Big 12 is clearly thinking in terms of TV revenue and geographic exposure as they made sure to get UCF to get the Florida market and Cincinnati to get the rustbelt market and then BYU to get the Utah area market. I think the Big 12 wants UCONN more than people think and wants Utah less than they think.

What say you?

As much as I want Oregon, I'm not convinced the Big 12 would be able to hang onto them.

BWillie 07-29-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17035132)
As much as I want Oregon, I'm not convinced the Big 12 would be able to hang onto them.

I don't think they will either, but that may work to the Big 12's advantage. I think one reason why the Pac 12 can't get a good media deal is because Washington and Oregon do not want to commit to a long-term deal as they are hoping ---- praying for a Big 10 invite. But even if you get UDub and Oregon for a 3, 4, 5 years there is still value in that I think. At such a later point the ACC is going to be ready to be poached.

ChiefsCountry 07-29-2023 11:54 AM

Big 12 and PAC 12 should have just merged together after Texas, Oklahoma, USC, and UCLA left.

BWillie 07-29-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17035155)
Big 12 and PAC 12 should have just merged together after Texas, Oklahoma, USC, and UCLA left.

The entire South division of the Big 12 almost did that years ago. My understanding is the Longhorn Network ****ed that up. Nebraska's Osborne indicated that as the reason Nebraska left to the B1G. The deal for the South division to move to the Pac 12 was done in principle but Texas just wouldn't give up the LHN. Unfortunately Texas was rewarded for their selfishness and while the LHN failed, they got a more valuable SEC opportunity but for Kansas and K-State probably one of the better case scenarios.

RustShack 07-29-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17035155)
Big 12 and PAC 12 should have just merged together after Texas, Oklahoma, USC, and UCLA left.

I like just adding Colorado, Arizona, Oregon, and Washington a lot more than merging with the entire conference.


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