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We were 17-10 before Gordon moved to third in the lineup. Just saying.

Doubt they would, the Shields trade isn't that unrealistic though. I would say Mondesi is a little more than an A ball project.

Texas has the best rotation in the AL, and they currently lead the league in ERA as it is. Not sure why they'd deal for Shields.

Read a yahoo article which made me wonder what I would do if they offered. I apologize for not meeting your discussion criteria. I'll make sure to do better next time.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/james-s...151500115.html

The bottom of the article says the author is a freelance writer.

I heard this today. While I basically agree with most of the negative comments about Glass, KK always seems to add in some side issues that make it seem personal, such as comments about Glass not pursuing a downtown stadium and his station's radio rights (I recall that KK bought some downtown property near where a proposed stadium would have been built, so he had a personal reason to be pissed when they opted for renovation).

KK was also bitching about George Brett. He said that if Brett truly cared about the team he would publicly call out Glass as a shitty owner and demand he sell the team. Even Jack Harry thought that was a bit much. Toward the end, KK added in some comment about how Brett has never been friendly towards him or something. Again, KK's bitching sounded like he had some personal issue to it.

Thats never gonna happen. He wouldnt blackball himself like that.

But yea, ill be a very happy man the day that Glass decides to sell the team. If not, hey at least i got to see a championship once in my lifetime.

Brett will never say anything about Glass. KK just wants shit started...thing is the GM is the main problem even if the owner blows hes given dayton what he's needed and Dayton has failed miserably.

As for Shields for Profar, yeah i'd do that

He won't be back

Just heard on the news that the GlASS group is in Kansas City and it was reported that they "Back Ned Yost". w00t. The kiss of death

Dayton Moore is the bigger problem and needs to go

It will work it's way up

Shut the **** up
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Guthrie bears an uncanny resemblance to Dayton.

I can't believe Chris Getz is still on this team. He is 100% useless.

"Prison Bitch nobody is totally worthless. He can always serve as a bad example" - grandpa

No, we were 17-13 when the change was made in Baltimore.

He was hitting ***** pretty hard in his interview with him last year in his defense. I remember Pioli got pissed about something and said he wished Kevin would be the GM of the Broncos and Kevin said I would to because they just signed Peyton Manning and drafted their QB of the future in the 2nd round. Good stuff.

exxxxactly

they probably wouldn't do it for Shields, either

BUT

The Royals should in a heartbeat. This season is toast. **** Shields. See ya later, brah. Flipping Myers and Odrizzi for Profar is fair enough.

Draft is tommorrow who are they targeting? I would assume it will be either Ryne Stanek from Arkansas or Alex Gonzalez from Oral Roberts.

That is an intriguing idea. Would I do that deal in December? I'd lean no but I'd give it thought. Where we are now I'd definitely package Shields for him.

I said this earlier in the thread... but I'd gladly send the Rangers Shields + Santana + another piece for Profar.

I doubt Dayton Moore would, though. And I doubt even more the Rangers would.

If they take Stanek, just shut this franchise down and leave town. That guy is destined for the bulpen. If we take another middle relief guy at number one I might just be done for good.

Does this mean you have faith that an active Duffy and Paulino, plus fresh meat from the farm would fill the Royals pitching gaps?

They haven't been scouting Stanek much this year, according to recent reports. So there's that, at least.

I think what it really means is that it's time we realize this year is a failure (I said at the beginning of May that the upcoming month could make or break the team, right?) unless they go on a crazy winning streak starting now. And that if you have an opportunity to go out and get a guy like Profar who can be a superstar with the bat AND the glove, you do it.

Not that I see it happening. Moore would have a hard time justifying keeping his job if his second attempt at a "go for it" year ended in epic failure, too. And trading Shields now would definitely signal that.

Texas would also likely not do the deal. If they move Profar, I think it's going to be for something involving Mike Stanton or David Price.

No, you said Moose was fine, had turned the corner, and had no business being sent down. That's what you said.

Favorite draft targets:

Assuming that Appel, Gray, Bryant, Meadows, Stewart and Frazier are all gone by the time the Royals pick...

I like Braden Shipley out of Nevada or Trey Ball, the Texas OF/P.

Both guys have premium arms with low mileage on them, high upside, and very good changeups.

Ball has only been throwing a curveball since his junior year of HS but reportedly has developed it to an impressive level for a guy who has only been throwing it 1.5 years.

Least favorite targets:

Ryne Stanek - Velocity has dipped, his slider has lost some bite, and he has shown little progression with his changeup. Needs to be "fixed" a bit by MiLB development team. Not confident this Royals' development team can get that done.

Phil Bickford - He's a big HS arm who throws mid-90s now with promise of more. But he's extremely raw and has no secondary stuff to speak of at this point. Ball has similar upside and ability (size and velocity are nearly the same) and is much more polished.

I don't usually do hypothetical’s but I’ve got one;

Dyson comes back. The Royals decide Francoeur is the odd man out. However, that leaves you with three Lefty Outfielders. So, you find a someone that will give you a right handed outfielder (assume it’s someone you’d be happy with) for Francoeur and one of your lefties. You ain’t giving them Gordon so you have to pick Dyson or Lough.

Who would you give up? Dyson or Lough?

Stopped reading at that point. *sigh*

You have every reason to be doubtful but I think he'll be off the team by the all-star break. His contract is up after this year. He brings no value to the team at this point. He's a wasted roster spot. If they can't get anything for him, I think they let him go.

Looking at K's and BB's so far this year.

Just in generally watching, you would think that Frenchy leads the team in Ks. Actually Alex does, he has 51. But he as many more plate appearances.

Cain has been K'ing a lot. He also has 41. Hos has 36, Moose has 26.

Billay has even walks and K's at 34 ea. That's not terrible for your alleged clean up guy, we need more extra base sock from Billay.

On walks, nobody has 20 or more except Billay.

Frenchy has walked only 5 times this year. 41Ks and 5 BBs. Terrible.

So Cain has 1 HR and 41k this year.


Escobar is a total pumpkin with identical stats to Berroa and Neifi.


And people STILL think we won the Greinke deal? LMFAO

I saw a stat on the Star that said the Royals are 17-5 when they score 4 or more runs. Just another telling stat about how awful the offense has been. All they need is just 1 or 2 guys to get hot or find a power stroke and they can't even manage that. Unreal how we have so many lightweight hitters.
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3 current pitchers were drafted #1 overall.

Hochevar
Price
Strasbourg


Yes, we got the only pumpkin. Like always.

It's not like Greinke is having a great season either. Especially for the kind of money he's getting.

Just think were only 6.5 games out of first.

Yeah.
But if we keep scoring less than 4 runs per game, we might as well be 65 games out of first.

Our starters should sue the position players for non-support.

What's amazing is that you traded 51 starts of Greinke for Cain and Escobar, who have given you a combined 1.8 WAR this year. Meanwhile, the Brewers traded 13 starts of Greinke for Jean Segura, who has given the Brewers 2.7 WAR.

Even more amazing is that you're telling me this. Here I am, diligently trying to kill myself, and you're yelling, "Faster! Faster!"

You're not exactly breaking any new info here.

As Hamas alluded to, that's not the issue. What he's doing for LA matters not, it's what Milwaukee did with him vs. what we could've.

I have no idea.

Hopefully one of the top high school hitters. The good college pitchers will be gone, and high school pitching is risky as hell.

The Royals have gotten 4.7 fWAR/6.1 bWAR from Escobar from 2011-current and 2.9 fWAR/2.7 bWAR from Cain.

They're on pace to have totalled 5.9 fWAR/5.9 bWAR and 5.3 fWAR/3.8 bWAR by the end of the year.

It will be interesting to see how they track against Segura long-term. I'm not sure I buy him hitting this well long-term, but he might be one of those guys that just takes a big step up in the big leagues (or he might have borrowed some "Iron" pills from his buddy Ryan Braun).

If the Brewers saw that coming, kudos to them. I don't think anybody else did.

Well, no. Looking at fWAR, Escobar has been a hell of a lot better than either of them, and he's on pace to record at least 1.5 WAR this season.

I'd guess both are gone at the Royals pick. Gray, Appel, Bryant off in 1-3 in some order. Moran, Stewart, Meadows and Frazier off 4-7 in some order.

Trey Ball
Phil Bickford
Ryne Stanek
Shipley
Domonic Smith
The kid from Oral Roberts

Probably the types of names available at No. 8

Just put the moron on ignore. Makes this thread much more bearable.

Can someone tell me what it going on with Duffy? Is he injured or what I fully expected him to be a part of this team this year, a 4 or 5 pitcher anyway.

Why don't you explain to me - again - how Moose didn't need to be sent down last month. I need a good laugh.

Saw Stanek pitch last week against my shocks, really wasnt all that impressed, he has major control issues.

Francoeur needs sent down so bad it makes me sick that he is actually in the starting rotation.

this.

Although I personally enjoy seeing a person make an ass out of himself.

He had rotator cuff surgery about 13 months ago. He's rehabbing in the minor leagues right now and just got moved to Omaha (after a few pretty positive starts at NWA). Results have been fine so far, and his velocity is back where it was pre-injury.

He's close to being back/available.

We already had that argument. You were freaking out over a sample size so small that one day was able to increase his OPS by 100 points.

But thats not the point, I remember actually saying 3 or 4 weeks ago that I enjoyed talking with you. Somewhere along the way since then, you became a raging asshole.

I don't know why that happened, but I'm not going to worry about it. I'll just put you on ignore. I never take people off ignore. Good-bye forever.

thought he was tommy john surgery, not rotator cuff

He did, he underwent UCL reconstruction over a year ago. He just got promoted to AAA and will probably spend a month or so there. Ventura starts for the Stormchasers tonight though(!).

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Hunter Dozier is the Royals first pick. Shortstop

Hunter Dozier...:facepalm:...only the Royals...

What's the scoop?

He's a huge reach and we only took him there because we'll be able to sign him easily....

Unreal.

Thanks

****ing Moore should just ****ing resign.

Yasiel Puig has played 4 games and would be 4th on the Royals in HR.

Duffy and Ventura in a race to see who gets to replace Wade Davis.

Not gonna happen. It's gonna be a log jam. Someone is getting traded and it won't be Davis. They'll probably hold Ventura down until: A. We're out of the race completely or B. If we drag ourselves back into it, he'll be brought up for the pen. Duffy on the other hand, if his volocity keeps up in Omaha, I could see them sending Davis down (I think he still has an option left)

Yost has realized Lough is better than Frenchy now he needs to know that Tejada is better than Moose.

LOL Tejada is not the answer.

Sure, send Moose to Omaha to work on his swing for a few weeks.

He's 6'4", 220. He's not staying at short.

Update from last night: Ventura's line 5.0IP 87 pitches 1H 4BB 6K 1ER 0HR. Not bad, except for the walks.

Moose: 8-70. At least it's good to know they found out what his problem was a month ago.

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He's missing bats at a great rate. 80ks in 62 2/3, IIRC.

Walks overall haven't been a problem (24 in 62 2/3 is basically an average rate), but are the main thing to watch at the new level.

It would be nice to see him get the walks down under 3/9 IP at Omaha.

Well the Indians/Tigers square off this weekend, we have an opportunity to move on up if we keep playing well especially with the Astros in town.

That's Kansas City sports in a nutshell. Even when we are hottest thing around, we still end up losing.

love the mom in the background munchin popcorn leaning over lol and the douche on the right haha that gif delivers