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TheGuardian 01-30-2025 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17945554)
Wasn't it the Super Bowl last year when Spags credited Nick for wanting to run the McDuffie pressure on 3rd-and-4 that effectively got us the stop we needed to give the ball back to Mahomes?

YESSS!!! THAT WAS IT!!!!

He asked Nick what he thought and Nick called it.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2025 06:18 PM

Bolton's gonna show up again in the Super Bowl. I'm calling my shot. He's gonna have a big game.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2025 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17945810)
Bolton's gonna show up again in the Super Bowl. I'm calling my shot. He's gonna have a big game.

It's a perfect game for him to show out.

Philly is gonna wanna run the ball and he's going to need to have his guys lined up and gap sound while finishing the plays and taking on blockers to deal with this run game.

He might be fantastic.

He probably needs to be.

TheGuardian 01-30-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17945813)
It's a perfect game for him to show out.

Philly is gonna wanna run the ball and he's going to need to have his guys lined up and gap sound while finishing the plays and taking on blockers to deal with this run game.

He might be fantastic.

He probably needs to be.

Yup. If there was ever a game meant for him it's this one.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-30-2025 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17945813)
It's a perfect game for him to show out.

Philly is gonna wanna run the ball and he's going to need to have his guys lined up and gap sound while finishing the plays and taking on blockers to deal with this run game.

He might be fantastic.

He probably needs to be.

If it wasn't for him, I'd be extremely worried about Barkley and the whole Eagles offense. I think he's that important.

htismaqe 01-31-2025 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17945737)
Unless Spags gets a job as a head coach and comes after Bolton.

Spags isn't getting a HC job. Not this cycle at least.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2025 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17945905)
If it wasn't for him, I'd be extremely worried about Barkley and the whole Eagles offense. I think he's that important.

The league is coming back towards his style of play.

It won't be wholesale -- this isn't going to be 80s/90s football where teams are routinely winning championships with dominant running games.

But there ARE teams - more and more of them- that are going to try to win games with their running game. We have one in the West in LAC and probably another with Pete Carroll.

Bolton may actually be a bit undervalued going forward if this trend continues. And man, it is SO easy to find another LB to run alongside him and cover some of those weaknesses in space.

DJ's left nut 01-31-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17946171)
Spags isn't getting a HC job. Not this cycle at least.

Yeah, my memory is that his year in NOLA ended poorly and the same folks are still running that shop.

He ain't going to NOLA.

htismaqe 01-31-2025 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17946186)
Yeah, my memory is that his year in NOLA ended poorly and the same folks are still running that shop.

He ain't going to NOLA.

Yeah, they fired him after one year. They fielded the worst defense in the NFL and one of the worst in NFL history.

Wallcrawler 01-31-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17946188)
Yeah, they fired him after one year. They fielded the worst defense in the NFL and one of the worst in NFL history.

The win now mentality is crippling these clubs and their quarterbacks. Lot of these kids barely grasp one offense and they're having to purge it and learn a new one with the new regime.

As hot of a commodity as Spags is, let's not forget his defense opened the first half of one of these seasons as an NFL historically bad defense. 100% red zone fail rate. It was ****ing abysmal. Pretty sure it was Boltons rookie year, but Spags had "his guys" out there instead of the talent. Fans actually started a go fund me to buy out Dan Soresons deal lmao.

Anyone running a complicated scheme that takes time for everyone to learn, nobody wants that shit. You win from the jump, or you hit the bricks.

If Spags does take an HC job, the ownership better have some grace, because it's going to get really ****ing ugly before it starts getting good.

RealSNR 01-31-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17946239)
The win now mentality is crippling these clubs and their quarterbacks. Lot of these kids barely grasp one offense and they're having to purge it and learn a new one with the new regime.

As hot of a commodity as Spags is, let's not forget his defense opened the first half of one of these seasons as an NFL historically bad defense. 100% red zone fail rate. It was ****ing abysmal. Pretty sure it was Boltons rookie year, but Spags had "his guys" out there instead of the talent. Fans actually started a go fund me to buy out Dan Soresons deal lmao.

Anyone running a complicated scheme that takes time for everyone to learn, nobody wants that shit. You win from the jump, or you hit the bricks.

If Spags does take an HC job, the ownership better have some grace, because it's going to get really ****ing ugly before it starts getting good.


That was also the year Honey Badger transformed into Money Badger.

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17946184)
The league is coming back towards his style of play.

It won't be wholesale -- this isn't going to be 80s/90s football where teams are routinely winning championships with dominant running games.

But there ARE teams - more and more of them- that are going to try to win games with their running game. We have one in the West in LAC and probably another with Pete Carroll.

Bolton may actually be a bit undervalued going forward if this trend continues. And man, it is SO easy to find another LB to run alongside him and cover some of those weaknesses in space.

For me it's the fact that we're going to be seeing those teams every season in January and our own division.

Bills
Ravens
Lions
Eagles

Top seeds in the bracket this year, excluding the Chiefs of course, and they are all HEAVILY run dependent nowadays. Now, maybe the Bills will shift back the other way with another change in offensive philosophy, but the Ravens, Lions, and Eagles are built that way for the long haul.

RunKC 01-31-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17946184)
The league is coming back towards his style of play.

It won't be wholesale -- this isn't going to be 80s/90s football where teams are routinely winning championships with dominant running games.

But there ARE teams - more and more of them- that are going to try to win games with their running game. We have one in the West in LAC and probably another with Pete Carroll.

Bolton may actually be a bit undervalued going forward if this trend continues. And man, it is SO easy to find another LB to run alongside him and cover some of those weaknesses in space.

Couldn’t this argument be emphasized with Leo Chenal? The guy is arguably the most vital player to our run defense. He’s destroying the running lanes allowing guys like Bolton to get unblocked.

Idk man I’m thinking we need to keep that guy somehow. He’s the strongest guy on the team and is extremely important to coverage schemes.

He’s pretty much a DL in a LB’s body. We are gonna put him on the DL to simulate a Bear front and he’s one of the most athletic LB’s in the league.

Feels like the run defense would take a massive hit losing him.

Smed1065 01-31-2025 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17945761)
There's a MIC'd up, I can't remember which one, and Spas is actually asking Bolton what it is he thinks on the next play call. And Nick tells him, and then he calls it perfect.

It's almost like we have two Spags with Bolton. If he had the athletic ability of a Fred Warner he'd literally be the next Ray Lewis.

Killing folks after the SB?

Pitt Gorilla 01-31-2025 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17946460)
Couldn’t this argument be emphasized with Leo Chenal? The guy is arguably the most vital player to our run defense. He’s destroying the running lanes allowing guys like Bolton to get unblocked.

Idk man I’m thinking we need to keep that guy somehow. He’s the strongest guy on the team and is extremely important to coverage schemes.

He’s pretty much a DL in a LB’s body. We are gonna put him on the DL to simulate a Bear front and he’s one of the most athletic LB’s in the league.

Feels like the run defense would take a massive hit losing him.

Absolutely. I'd certainly much rather keep Chanal than a guy like Tranquil.


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