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Sorter 01-02-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9269169)
The Cardinals defense is absolutely loaded. Their receiving corp, outside of superstar Larry Fitzgerald, is very solid. They play indoors, which helps their kicking game. The Cards biggest weakness, outside of QB, is offensive line and running, two areas which can be easily addressed in the draft and free agency.

If the Cards addressed those needs (Joeckel?) and added a QB like Alex Smith to pair with a younger QB or even QB, they could be in the playoffs next year.

The Chiefs, on the other hand, have so many question marks that even if they hit on a QB, the likelihood of playoffs is slim in 2013 and possibly 2014.

I don't know, that division is tough as **** now. ****, the NFC is tough as hell now. Manning, Brees, Rodgers, RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick, Stafford, Ryan, and Cutler all fighting for 6 spots.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9269181)
Im sure the Cardinals have just as many question marks as the Chiefs.

Difference in your opinion can simply be from the fact that you know the ends and outs of the Chiefs roster far better than the Cardinals.

I watch the Cardinals and Seahawks quite a bit because they're the late game in Los Angeles each week.

I can tell you that if I were Andy Reid (who just happens to own a home in San Diego, which is a 45 minute or so flight from Phoenix), I'd chose Arizona over Kansas City because they're closer to competing for a playoff spot.

O.city 01-02-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9269190)
Why didn't Hunt outright retain him?

Just stating that if he's this awful and you are afraid of all this happening, why is there a thought that he's being kept?

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9269172)
If you are scared to leave him in KC unsupervised, why are you thinking of keeping him as part of your organization?

Who said anything about keeping him as part of the organization?

Christ, Clark could have been doing him a favor by letting him meet with Dimitroff about a job.


I'm not sure what people can't grasp about this - Clark is trying to negotiate a buyout - that takes time. If he wasn't, he would have already fired him.

In the meantime, he's been neutered of his power and depantsed publicly.

What exactly has Clark done differently than he explained on Monday.

The search process started immediately. HE will be picking the next HC.

He can do that with or without Pioli in the room, and still not go against his word.

BigMeatballDave 01-02-2013 03:09 PM

Neither team has a QB, so it's basically a push.

The Franchise 01-02-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9269191)
Dockett isn't near the LB Hali or DJ is.

He's 290 lbs and plays DE. Of course he isn't.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 03:10 PM

Sorry, there's no way to spin Pioli's presence in any legitimate interview for a HC as a positive. It's not. It's a sign of weakness and incompetence on Hunt's part.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-02-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9269198)
He's 290 lbs and plays DE. Of course he isn't.

ROFL

O.city 01-02-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269196)
Who said anything about keeping him as part of the organization?

Christ, Clark could have been doing him a favor by letting him meet with Dimitroff about a job.


I'm not sure what people can't grasp about this - Clark is trying to negotiate a buyout - that takes time. If he wasn't, he would have already fired him.

In the meantime, he's been neutered of his power and depantsed publicly.

What exactly has Clark done differently than he explained on Monday.

The search process started immediately. HE will be picking the next HC.

He can do that with or without Pioli in the room, and still not go against his word.

You think the buyout is happening?

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9269179)
So why not just outrite fire him?

I can think of $20M reasons.

(pure speculation)

ShortRoundChief 01-02-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269086)
I'd want that mother****er with me too, so I could keep an eye on him.

I'm sure as **** not leaving him in KC unattended.

Then again, this could have all been avoided by just firing the assclown on Monday.

Put him in the basement like Milton from office space, hand him a can of Raid, and explain about the roach problem.

Red Dawg 01-02-2013 03:10 PM

610 is talking with Kevin Lockett about coaches. Huh? Why?

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9269193)
I don't know, that division is tough as **** now. ****, the NFC is tough as hell now. Manning, Brees, Rodgers, RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick, Stafford, Ryan, and Cutler all fighting for 6 spots.

It is tough but the AFC is no cakewalk with Manning, Brady, Luck, Houston 2 years in a row, Cinci 2 years in a row with Dalton, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, etc. and so on.

For Reid, it'll all come down to comfort level. The guy will have plenty of options when it's all said and done.

BradBigglestein 01-02-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9269091)
Let er' rip, please.

Pros:

-Very good preparation coach. Puts together good game plans and has his players ready to go. Biggest example of this is he never lost after the bye week up until this year. However, he is not a good adjustment coach at all(I'll get to this in the cons)

-Straight shooter. Does not throw his players under the bus. Sticks up for his players at all times and his players love him. The players quit on him this year, but that is because they compiled a team full of heartless bums. Up until this season, Andy Reid's best records are in the latter months of the seasons. Teams typically play hard for him until the end. They respect him. So worrying about players not taking him seriously will not be a problem.

-Got into it a bit above, but Andy Reid is a strong finisher. His teams get better as the seasons go on. If a team starts off slow in September, he always keeps them working hard to improve.

-He's good at finding what is wrong and fixing it. Even in the doldrums of a bad season. I can't tell you how many times he duct taped together what looked like a hopeless roster.

-Even keel coach. Never lets the team get too down on themselves or too high(although sometimes this works as a negative. I'll get into it in the cons).

-Good at developing QBs. Has won consistently for most of his career with backups when McNabb went down. Is good at adjusting the offense to fit backup QBs.

-His teams for the most part score points. This year the offense sucked, but it was ravaged by injuries, and this season was pretty much a lost cause from very early on. More of an anomaly than anything.

Cons:

-Not a good adjustment coach at all. When his game plan goes awry, he has trouble going to plan b. This frustrated a lot of Eagles fans. If you get Reid, hope the game plan he has going into Sunday works, because if not you'll be in trouble.

-Seems to get conservative in big games. Coaches tight in big games. It seemed to rub off on players. Teams seemed to come out flat in big games. Many people in Philadelphia suspected it was the even keel attitude and that it came back to bite the players. They weren't amped up enough in the bigger games.

-Often neglects certain positions because they aren't "high value" positions. Neglected WR until 2004 and neglected LB almost his entire tenure. He has certain positions he values like offensive line and defensive line. Others he refuses to draft highly or spend a lot of money on. Flat out refuses.

-Gives you absolutely nothing through the media. His players respect it, but fans hate it. He spits out the same cliches every game. "I gotta do a better job" and "I have to put the players in better positions to make plays" are said after every single loss. Every one. Fans here grew so tired of it. He'll never explain what went wrong after losses. Cookie cutter answers.

-Not the best talent evaluator

-I'm sure you all know this, but often abandons the run and never goes back. He tends to only run when he has a lead. Although he does run the ball more with backup QBs. Which frustrated to many Eagles fans. Why run with your backup, but not your starter?

-Poor clock management. Andy Reid teams suck in the 2 min drill, end of halves, end of games. Poor usage of timeouts as well. Also, not a good challenger.

-Red zone woes late in his Eagles coaching tenure. Had a lot of trouble finding a way to get into the end zone


Overall he is a good to a very good coach, but has too many flaws to be great. He knows what he wants to do and has a good idea of how to build a competitive team, but I'm not sure he is a Superbowl caliber coach. Heis very stubborn in certain areas and just refuses to change. In some respects, that helps him, but it hurts him in others. I have no doubts he would improve your franchise, but he may get you close, but not over the hump.

TLO 01-02-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 9269090)
I don't think KK has watched any sports outside of K State football for several years.

I'm also sorta shocked they stopped talking about golf / mortgage rates to discuss the Chiefs coaching search.

I'm Jeff Briggs and I"ll see you on the showroom floor.


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