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Coach 07-26-2023 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17032208)
Those dates confirm what I said. Thank you.




Just as states, Texas and Oklahoma hate each other, their universities are no different, constantly bickering like jilted lovers. In fact, it is only fitting that in this mutually abusive relationship UT and OU are going hand in hand to the SEC.

UT was basically the kingpin. OU was only reluctant to do so because of the $, at least that is my understanding.

Either way, both of them are going to be gone anyways, and the SEC can try to handle that Texas Sized Ego Home Wrecker.

Rams Fan 07-26-2023 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17032205)
I think Cal and Stanford are going to have to either go independent (very unlikely because they are in the red) or have to drop some sports and join a different lower tier G5 conference to help themselves to get their fiscal issues resolved.

B1G doesn't really see the value Cal or Stanford bring to the table, IMHO.

Stanford has had to cut sports in the past few years. They also play by a different set of rules because since they're private vs being apart of the UC system.

Cal's being bailed out by UCLA and is ****ed if an earthquake happens (their football stadium is built on a fault line).

Rams Fan 07-26-2023 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17032208)
Those dates confirm what I said. Thank you.


Just as states, Texas and Oklahoma hate each other, their universities are no different, constantly bickering like jilted lovers. In fact, it is only fitting that in this mutually abusive relationship UT and OU are going hand in hand to the SEC.

Oklahoma's and Texas' relationship is symbiotic.

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17032210)
UT was basically the kingpin. OU was only reluctant to do so because of the $, at least that is my understanding.

Either way, both of them are going to be gone anyways, and the SEC can try to handle that Texas Sized Ego Home Wrecker.

LHN is being absorbed by the SECN in 2024 and won't exist moving forward.

The shit the B12 let fly won't happen in the SEC.

Raiderhater 07-26-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17032213)
Oklahoma's and Texas' relationship is symbiotic.

Is that not for all intents and purposes what I said? Obviously I used a more colorful description, but the essence was there.

displacedinMN 07-26-2023 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17032205)
I think Cal and Stanford are going to have to either go independent (very unlikely because they are in the red) or have to drop some sports and join a different lower tier G5 conference to help themselves to get their fiscal issues resolved.

B1G doesn't really see the value Cal or Stanford bring to the table, IMHO.

only, maybe, from a research perspective, and womens Bball for Stanford

but not athletics as a whole

displacedinMN 07-26-2023 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17032211)
Stanford has had to cut sports in the past few years. They also play by a different set of rules because since they're private vs being apart of the UC system.

Cal's being bailed out by UCLA and is ****ed if an earthquake happens (their football stadium is built on a fault line).

Cal can say it has been fixed, but, um, yeah, sure.

Sassy Squatch 07-26-2023 07:02 PM

LMAO we really gonna relitigate this shit almost 15 years later?

Rams Fan 07-26-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17032215)
Is that not for all intents and purposes what I said? Obviously I used a more colorful description, but the essence was there.

It was.

Point being whatever Texas does or gets, Oklahoma has to do. Or vice versa.

Similar to how UCLA/USC are tied at the hip. Auburn/Alabama, Florida/Georgia, Michigan/Ohio St., etc.

Will be curious to see what happens to the ACC whenever their media rights deal is over. I think a decent amount of the league will join the SEC (FSU, Miami, Clemson, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech), while the rest join the B1G.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-26-2023 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17032205)
I think Cal and Stanford are going to have to either go independent (very unlikely because they are in the red) or have to drop some sports and join a different lower tier G5 conference to help themselves to get their fiscal issues resolved.

B1G doesn't really see the value Cal or Stanford bring to the table, IMHO.

Cal and Stanford would discontinue athletics before they ever dropped to the MWC. They would commit suicide before having to share a conference with Fresno State.

I think the Big 10 wants Cal and Stanford because the university presidents would make them. There is room for those two schools in the 24 or 32 team conference model. Which is the ultimate endgame.

Washington State and Oregon State are out of luck.

tredadda 07-26-2023 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17032178)
Culturally, Colorado and Boulder are California based. It is why they left in the first place. But when the Pac 12 is negotiating with the CW, culture suddenly doesn't matter as much moolah.

Correct, but CU has history with the Big 12 dating back to just after WWII. Cal doesn’t and I doubt they want anything to do with the Big 12, nor do I think the Big 12 wants them. I really only see four possible schools for the Big 12 outside of Colorado and those are Arizona, ASU, Oregon, and Washington. If not for BYU I would think Utah would have a very good shot.

Bearcat 07-26-2023 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17032221)
LMAO we really gonna relitigate this shit almost 15 years later?

Big 12's going to dissolve any day now...

Raiderhater 07-26-2023 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 17032222)
It was.

Point being whatever Texas does or gets, Oklahoma has to do. Or vice versa.

Similar to how UCLA/USC are tied at the hip. Auburn/Alabama, Florida/Georgia, Michigan/Ohio St., etc.

Will be curious to see what happens to the ACC whenever their media rights deal is over. I think a decent amount of the league will join the SEC (FSU, Miami, Clemson, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech), while the rest join the B1G.

I know what the point was because I’m the one that made it.

Seriously, you UK fans give a bad name to Wildcat fans. :)

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-26-2023 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17032225)
Correct, but CU has history with the Big 12 dating back to just after WWII. Cal doesn’t and I doubt they want anything to do with the Big 12, nor do I think the Big 12 wants them. I really only see four possible schools for the Big 12 outside of Colorado and those are Arizona, ASU, Oregon, and Washington. If not for BYU I would think Utah would have a very good shot.

No doubt. Cal would sooner die than hobnob with the Great Plains schools and UCF.

Oh yeah, BYU holds a grudge with Utah. Understandably so. Utah would be a great get for the PAC 12. Bring back the Holy War!

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-26-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17032221)
LMAO we really gonna relitigate this shit almost 15 years later?

"There is nothing new under the sun."

Rams Fan 07-26-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17032228)
I know what the point was because I’m the one that made it.

Seriously, you UK fans give a bad name to Wildcat fans. :)

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I respect a first year coach saying this.


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