When are people gonna learn that regular season Mahomes and playoff Mahomes aren't the same guy? :hmmm:

While a repeat is rare, it isn’t uncharted territory.

A 3-peat while their guy plays his best football?

Surpassing anything the Patriots did but they actually have an elite QB?

Bills have given up 30+ points four times this year and they just gave up 40+ in back to back weeks. Their offense may be humming, but we’re still a month away from the playoffs and that frigidly cold weather that seems to slow big offenses down in January. We’ve seen it before.

And the Texans beat them 23-20 earlier in the year. They are NOT a special offense.

Josh Allen literally had the perfect game against as a QB against a Belichick-led defense in a January snow game.

Josh Allen torched our defense in the playoffs a few years ago in a very cold game.

What in the world makes you think weather will be their undoing?

It's gonna be very interesting to see how the media talk about Buffalo tomorrow. When we let up 30 and 27 in back to back games them folks were talking about our defense. So will they do the same to Buffalo or pretend they haven't been torn apart by the Ravens, Rams and Lions? When teams literally do what they want against your defense it suggests the scheme and players tendencies have been decoded.

I think out of their last three games the Jets may have a chance to get an upset if they play above themselves. Wilson, Adams, Hall and a Rogers that's playing better these days along with a defense that knows Allen well just might be able to cause an upset. Especially against that terrible defense.

they’re gonna lose to the jets in two weeks

What is Buffalo ranked in points allowed per game anyway?

The Texans offense is not anything special now, but they were playing well offensively when they played Buffalo. That was so long ago anyway. Also, Buffalo's offense back then was not playing nearly as well as it's playing now.

You're right about the weather.

For the season, the good offenses on Buffalo’s schedule have averaged around 30 ppg. And their defense has been significantly worse in recent weeks.

Good luck in Arrowhead vs Playoff Mahomes, Humphries and Hollywood.

LOL. I doubt they're worried about facing Humphries.

They were without Kincaid, Coleman, and Milano.

Which group would you take?

I mentioned him because he’s an upgrade at the position of biggest weakness.

Humphries himself won’t worry anyone, but in conjunction with Playoff Mahomes, Andy, Hollywood, Hopkins, Kelce, Worthy, Pacheco, Hunt, Gray…that D should be worried.

Good point. If Humphries works out, it will sure be a plus.

Milano sucks now. Just ask Bills fans.

Don’t forget that KC was without Pacheco and Omenihu too, and Hopkins was barely in the gameplan.

Maybe I’m reading things wrong..

Did you ask which group I’d take when one of them included playoff Mahomes?

Fair enough, but if Thuney can play like today, we have that weakness at LT handled even without Humphries.

It's sad that Chiefsplanet thinks Josh Allen is going to threepeat over Patrick Mahomes

Chiefs and Bills might not even play again, no point in worrying about a team they can't play until the AFFCC game. The goal is to get the 1 seed and win 3 playoff games, they can still do that.

The Chiefs were a ****ing MASH unit at the time. Come ON with this shit. 19 of 20.

And we were without Brown, Pacheco, Humphries, Butker, Watson, Omenihu and Nelson. (Plus Rice) Which group would you take?

Skyy has fallen and the pessimism continues

This.

It's amazing the amount of ass kissing of our rivals some of these guys love to do :evil:

Good point, we’ve been without Skyy Moore, too.

I'd like to see the Bills run into Denver in the wildcard round. That defense might actually slow them down a bit. If nothing else at least tenderize them a bit for the next round.

The Chargers could easily beat Buffalo.

i get the feeling the bills are blowing their wads too soon. i would not be surprised if they get bounced in round 1 (if it's a close win), fade out by round 2.

What a ****ing clown.

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I think Buffalo beats Denver or Pittsburgh.

Could lose to Houston or LA Chargers, or even Cincinnati if they snuck in.

Definitely gets sent home by KC or Baltimore.

And he doesn't get called out for it. BS.

I actually LOVE this! :thumb:

No rings = no one cares

These are wild

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

The only downside of that …

Would be the Chiefs having to play the Broncos in the divisional round. I’d like to play someone from outside the AFC West in the divisional round…

Nope. Bring them on. I don’t care if we win 6 Super Bowls before getting there. My soul will not be healed until we have revenge for 97.

Josh Allen is Patrick Mahomes' bitch! Rooting for a Buf@KC AFCCG.

Oh but the Chiefs look so vulnerable! They are mother freaking BORED with the regular and still rattling off win after win. Playoffs a different animal. Mahomes and Reid will have something waiting for em in Arrowhead!

Bills felt right at home in Detroit
 

Bills Linebacker Taron Johnson Accuses Lions Players Of Inappropriately Touching Him & Putting Their Fingers In Private Places During Crucial Onside Kick Recovery

I stay away from social media dumbasses as much as I can, but sometimes I can't resist, and the next ****ing idiot who claims Mahomes is a giant flopper is going to get this shoved faaaaaaar out the ass

As if any of the Lions players would risk getting hand herpes.

Torched our defense when Mathieu went out on the first drive. Everyone knows Spags defense wasn’t the same without him. I think the 2 completions past the sticks at home last season is much more of a representation of what Allen does in the playoffs. Those 2 games are statistical outliers for him. He’s not a QB you should worry about torching you with his arm if you have a healthy secondary.

Probably should share that with the same person who called out Mahomes for his “yearly limp”.

That’s how I see it. It’s hard to beat the same team three times in the same season and especially a division rival.

Can you give me some evidence that he struggles in the cold?? Please??

Yeah I don’t get the “Allen struggles in the cold” line of thinking. He plays in Buffalo of all places. You can make that argument for Tua, just not Allen.

Amazing what a RB like Ty Johnson can do in the passing game. He’s their Jerrick McKinnon.

He’s made Josh Allen so much better in the passing game while Mahomes doesn’t have a RB with juice in the passing game like him. Perine is fine but he’s not as elusive as what we’ve had in previous years.

WTF?
You are concerned about Josh anytime.

Best part about Allen flopping is that the guy is damn near DE size.

I mean he's like 6'5" 250 lbs and when someone touches him he acts like a scat back.

Oh well. All QBs try to sell calls these days because annoyingly, they get rewarded for it. But there's something especially funny about that tank of a human being doing it.

Perine would have similar impact if they'd, you know, get him the ball more.

Didn’t Cam Newton basically get the Shaq treatment by refs? Felt like teams could beat the shit out of him without getting called.

Can’t say I blame Allen too much. As a big dude, he won’t get those calls unless he sells for them.

Still looks like a bitch though.

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.co...2024SOSAug.jpg

This SOS is posted December 9. I didn't realize they had such a cakewalk ass season.

And WTF did Atlanta do to Goodell to deserve that? LOL

I'm no Newton fan. None at all. But them telling him "he hasn't earned that call" pisses me off infinitely to this day.

Eh, the Falcons drew IIRC, the NFC north and the AFCW so that was just a tough break.

But the Bills have 3 shit birds in their division this year and drew NFCW and AFCS.

Just a good setup.

He’s okay but he doesn’t have much juice. Not a surprise that the offense started going downhill when McKinnon got hurt/left after his awesome 2022 season.

Huge missing piece to our offense and a big reason Josh Allen is having success this year.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I think he’s the best third down back in the league.”<br><br>- Josh Allen on Ty Johnson<br><br>Johnson had 114 receiving yards vs DET. Expect the Bills to build off of that down the stretch. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> <a href="https://t.co/XO8w9SVbee">pic.twitter.com/XO8w9SVbee</a></p>&mdash; Buffalo Sports Talk (@BUFSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BUFSportsTalk/status/1868647610711728634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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THIS ISN'T TRUE!!

Ty Johnson has 16 catches, 275 yards and 3 td's. 29 carries for 154 yards and 1 td.

Perine has 22 catches, 239 yards and 1 td. 17 carries for 82 yards and 1 td.

Most of Johnson's production has come in the last two games against weak defenses. Perine has consistently been a reliable 3rd down back for this team despite not even being in the system for long.

Mckinon was barely used in his first year with the Chiefs and then came alive in the playoffs. Perine could easily do the same imo. As for Johnson. Teams will key in on what he's doing now for sure. He barely runs the ball so the signs will be there.

Divisional snow game he struggled pretty bad against the Bengals. Divisional game last year against us he became a check down FB in probably the biggest game of his career. Not sure if that is from the cold or the pressure of the situation but he really only “torched” the Chiefs in the playoffs when our most critical piece went out.

I feel like Perine will be used quite a bit more in the playoffs, and should be an excellent option for Mahomes.

The Bills were very worried about Spags putting Allen’s brains in a blender.

In their biggest game they deliberately wanted to take the ball out of Allen’s hands and run the ball more.

Yep when Brown returns defenses are gonna have some big decisions to make and I expect Perine to benefit a ton from it tbh

Lol just to sum up the Bills fans them folks have TWO threads going about Pat's ankle!!...smh ROFL

If the Bengals are the Bridesmaids, Allen is Cinderella. Pumpkins before the ring is even close to proposed

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Was listening to Nick Wright's podcast as I was getting ready this AM and mentioned something worth considering.


What is Josh Allen's biggest or signature game?


His defense carried him to his only AFC Championship game and he was erratic in that game, not very good.


Was it the loss to the Chiefs (13 seconds game) where the Chiefs lost their main safety and had backup corners falling down over over?!

The 13 seconds game was Josh Allen’s best game and it’s not his fault they lost. He was genuinely awesome.

Blaming him would be like blaming Mahomes for losing to Brady in the 2018 AFCCG

Josh was incredible in the :13 game. Haven't watched all of his games, or probably even most of them, so maybe I missed his best game, but the :13 game was spectacular.

He was going against an injury hit secondary tbf but still in that game they punted FOUR TIMES and KC only punted twice despite Pat facing the number one ranked defense of that time.

Yeah, and I feel like Chris Jones gets it too because he's such a beast.

The immortal game of his career is a loss. That's the point.

And because of that, I think you do have to rule on the bottom line and say that's not his immortal game. I'd say it's actually the Patriots win from that same year in the playoffs, and the Patriots didn't put up a fight at all. I give Josh credit for taking the Bills struggles against the Pats from the past 20 years and completely blowing it out of the water, but a perfect game in the wildcard round where you barely have to think about besting your opponent in a shootout isn't anything groundbreaking.

And here's the thing.

"It's not his fault he lost"

It never is, man. And that's why I can't give a shit about Josh Allen no matter how spectacular he looks.

We do this stupid shit every year. Bills warm the hearts and vaginas of every casual NFL fan and become the popular SB pick by season's end, Josh looks great in the playoff game, and the Bills lose. It's not Josh's fault, and that fact is made known by EVERYBODY in the media. It's shouted out loudly and frequently. Some might even say it's shoved down our throats. "Not Allen's fault! Not Allen's fault!"

Enough with the crocodile tears. I don't care. I never did care, and I ESPECIALLY don't care now that he's getting older as a player. Let me know when Josh gets an actual signature win and slays an actual dragon. I figure he'll do it eventually, but thus far for being so goddamn great I haven't seen it yet.

Sorry, but dramatic impressive losses in the playoffs don't do it for me. He's way closer to Justin Herbert than he is Patrick Mahomes

Bills fans always assume if they, someday, get back to a SB...they will automatically win it. Like getting past Mahomes is their only obstacle.

Wouldn't losing 5 SB's be a record? Careful what you wish for....

He can't kick field goals, too!

...he can convert 3rd downs though?

I was very concerned about our chances against them after that Patriots game. They looked unstoppable. Way more than they have this season imo but our guys stepped up big time. Imo that game was just one of Pat's many incredible performances. I rate it right up there.

Forgive me if it was already posted but Nick Wright had a fantastic rant on his podcast yesterday re: the best QB in the league debate that has surfaced again. Worth your time if you find it on YT, podcast channel, etc. (Can't link right now myself).

What I love about it is when people keep going back to this well of doubting Mahomes and the Chiefs, I think it only does us favors. You'd think haters would have learned from the Patriots years, doubting a team like that is the worst thing you can do. Pissing them off is not going to help your chances of defeating them (thanks, Justin Tucker).

But getting back to the main point, it's exhausting the lengths people will go to in order to discredit what Mahomes has done. People are so desperate for something fresh and new that it makes them reeruned in their analysis of the current landscape, the Chiefs in particular.

In a row? I believe so. Overall? Nope as I believe Denver has 5 of them.

This happened all the time when Brady was the guy 10+ years ago. Bottomline Mahomes has the hardware.

Don’t really see the problem with saying Josh Allen is a great QB though. Every generation of QB’s has those guys. He’s probably going to be Peyton Manning while Mahomes is the Tom Brady of this generation.

He’ll probably win 1 ring eventually but I’d project that Mahomes will win at least 2 more making 5 total

I think Allen is phenomenal - I said he was QB2 before the year started, IDC how many MVPs Lamar had, Allen was the guy you feared playing most.

But there should be a clear delineation between Allen being the 2024 season MVP and Allen being the best in the world, period. From a Bills fan, fine. They're loyal to their guy and it'll always be that way. And the vitriol is heightened as KC also is the reason they haven't made a SB.

If you claim to be an independent NFL analyst? Just stop. He's not there yet and won't be anytime soon.

The best game of his career is a playoff loss to Mahomes!

Allen is really good. He's up there with Mahomes physically, just doesn't have the accolades.

Until he wins some big games, he's below him.

Manning was better than Brady, but that's a whole other discussion.

I used to think that too but IDK, Manning had some pretty low playoff moments and the numbers back it. Like his production definitely dipped.

Then you have Mahomes whose playoff stats and record is that of a unanimous NFL MVP. In the biggest games and against the best opponents. It's not talked about enough because people are already tired of him.

Plus Manning had Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James for a long time. Brady had to make do with lesser skill players for most of his career.

This is more of a discussion of QB’s after Mahomes. This year has solidified Allen as QB2 and it’s not close. None of us would take Burrow or Lamar or Stroud or anyone over him if Mahomes wasn’t an option.

And he may be the most talented QB ever due to his legs. He’s certainly up there.

If he ends up being Dan Marino/Charles Barkley then that’s still a HOF player and one of the best, most talented QB’s ever. I think people place team success on QB’s too much. We all know the Brady morons do this for SB55 when it was clearly not Mahomes fault.

Allen will win MVP this year and he deserves it. But he’s gotta beat Mahomes at some point if he wants to ever win a ring.

And ****ing Reggie Wayne as WR2

Brady had elite defenses nearly every year he won a ring. Brady won SB’s the way Mahomes did last year which is why I don’t like this argument. He had a top 10 defense 15 out the 21 seasons he played and he didn’t win shit in the 6 without them.

The defense carried Brady his first 3 rings. They literally won him a SB over Seattle at the end of the game, they only allowed 21 points to the MVP QB and shut the Falcons out entirely in the 2nd half and his TB defense applied the best pressure rate on a QB in SB history.

The guy rarely had to do much offensively while Manning consistently had to put up tons of points to even have a chance.