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'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10980592)
Matheny says it wasn't a wheel play? They hold their positions? He needs to look at the tape. It was a full blown telegraphed wheel play.

A wheel play generally involves the shortstop rotating to third while the third baseman charges. If you look at their alignment, they had both 1st and 3rd in so close they couldn't really charge.

It was more overplaying the bunt to the point where you tipped your hand. Had they just been on the cusp of the IF, he lays the bunt down and they score either one or no runs that inning.

kcpasco 10-04-2014 09:04 PM

So I have a question regarding the rules on replay. What if Adams noticed that Wong missed the tag and threw to second but Grienke was walking back to the dugout?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10980601)
So I have a question regarding the rules on replay. What if Adams noticed that Wong missed the tag and threw to second but Grienke was walking back to the dugout?

Greinke should not have been given second for that very reason. Matheny should have come out for an explanation at the very least. He ****ed up.

O.city 10-04-2014 09:06 PM

I know there's still season to play here, but looking ahead, I'd unload some of these prospects for proven guys if I could (I think the time has passed for that as they've shown to be overrated).

Either a Donaldson to play third and carp back to 2nd, or Stanton type deal.

Pepe Silvia 10-04-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10980561)
Eh **** it.

I've been in an implant continuing ed for 20 hours the past 2 days. I'll just try and get laid or something

I've just been raw dogging it lately, that's why I havent been around much,. lol

kcxiv 10-04-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10980603)
Greinke should not have been given second for that very reason. Matheny should have come out for an explanation at the very least. He ****ed up.

well once he calls him out for Grienke it ends there. At least thats what it looks like and the **** up gives him the automatic 2nd base. I dont see how else you do that play.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2014 09:08 PM

I'm ****ing stunned that was a fair ball. That was a great swing.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10980609)
well once he calls him out for Grienke it ends there. At least thats what it looks like and the **** up gives him the automatic 2nd base. I dont see how else you do that play.

That's why Matheny should go out for the explanation, because If Wong throws to first, they have a good chance of getting Greinke on the tag at second.

It's not that Greinke should have absolutely been out, but there is an argument to be made for how the play transpired.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2014 09:10 PM

The Cardinals must be stealing signs, because there is no way that major league players could ever hit the Dodgers.

kcpasco 10-04-2014 09:11 PM

Ya I'm not complaining because there was never a throw to 2nd but it would be nice to get a definition of the rule in that case

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-04-2014 09:12 PM

Mother****er. That was ball four.

Pepe Silvia 10-04-2014 09:14 PM

I can't listen to Costas announce a game without thinking of Baseketball.

BigRedChief 10-04-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10980618)
Mother****er. That was ball four.

Yeah he has to be more aware that the are not going to give him anything to hit with Lynn behind him.

O.city 10-04-2014 09:15 PM

Goddamn I'm tired of playing this dodger team in the playoffs

kcxiv 10-04-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10980613)
The Cardinals must be stealing signs, because there is no way that major league players could ever hit the Dodgers.

That was stupid ass Harold Reynolds that said that. Its not hard to guess fastball fastball fastball fastball. lol

I think once the manager goes out play is frozen. Its just weird all the way around.


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