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RustShack 07-24-2022 04:41 PM

“One of major issues right now is that ESPN offer is low and Oregon and Washington want unequal sharing. They want a certain percentage more. Numbers don’t make survival possible within the conference. Big fracture within the conference and other schools won’t budge.“

GloucesterChief 07-24-2022 08:35 PM

That sounds like typical UW arrogance.

Sassy Squatch 07-26-2022 07:42 AM

ESPN is offering 24 million per school per year. yeesh.

Prison Bitch 07-26-2022 07:47 AM

I think the B12 gets 20m

KChiefs1 07-26-2022 10:15 AM

John Canzano:
Spoiler!



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RustShack 07-26-2022 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16381633)
I think the B12 gets 20m

50-60 is the projection.

ChiTown 07-26-2022 10:24 AM

This thread gets more reeruned by the day....

Prison Bitch 07-26-2022 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16381898)
John Canzano:
Spoiler!



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So if the money in the PAC and BIG 12 are the same, there’s zero incentive for either to lose any schools. “The PAC is less stable tho!” Then that stands to reason they have a much better portfolio of schools, who could conceivably make a future move.

KChiefs1 07-26-2022 11:45 AM

New Conference re-alignment thread
 
#B1G commissioner Kevin Warren confirms USC and UCLA will receive full revenue shares when they enter the Big Ten.

Might not sit well at Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers, which did not receive full shares.

Big Ten commish Kevin Warren told me he has not spoken w/Pac-12 commish George Kliavkoff since USC/UCLA announced they were leaving Pac-12, but said his office is scheduling a call sometime after Friday's Pac-12 media day


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KChiefs1 07-26-2022 11:58 AM

New Conference re-alignment thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 16379889)
“One of major issues right now is that ESPN offer is low and Oregon and Washington want unequal sharing. They want a certain percentage more. Numbers don’t make survival possible within the conference. Big fracture within the conference and other schools won’t budge.“

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzan...ide-the-big-12

Canzano: Delusion aside -- the Big 12 has nothing on the Pac-12

The numbers (and brands) don't lie.

John Canzano
Spoiler!



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RustShack 07-26-2022 04:36 PM

Canzanu is an idiot and cherry-picking stats to fit his Pro PAC narrative.

BWillie 07-26-2022 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 16381909)
50-60 is the projection.

Are you sure those numbers? I don't think those are once Texas and OU leave?

Archie Bunker 07-26-2022 04:50 PM

Really don’t see anything that he’s wrong about. Academics, Ratings, everything but having Iowa State seems to favor the PAC 12. It’s a large hurdle

KChiefs1 07-26-2022 07:25 PM

New Conference re-alignment thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 16382578)
Canzanu is an idiot and cherry-picking stats to fit his Pro PAC narrative.


Doesn’t appear to be an idiot.

Quote:

In his career,[3] Canzano has worked at six daily newspapers including The San Jose Mercury News and The Fresno Bee.
He covered University of Notre Dame football and Indiana University basketball as the beat writer during the tenure of coach Bob Knight. He is a former national Major League Baseball writer and national NFL writer at the San Jose Mercury News as well.
He has also covered five Olympic Games.

Canzano was hired as lead sports columnist at The Oregonian in 2002.[4] He also appears on KGW-TV, where he offers commentary and analysis on sports. Canzano also hosts a radio show called "The Bald-Faced Truth" on Portland's 750 AM "The Game". The radio show airs weekdays from 3-6 p.m. in the Portland metro area. The show is also syndicated in Eugene, Ore. on Fox Sports Eugene (95.7-FM and 1050-AM) and in Klamath Falls, Ore. on KLAD (104.3-FM and 960-AM).

He worked as the NFL and Major League Baseball columnist at the San Jose Mercury News and is a member of the Baseball Writers' Association of America. He holds a Baseball Hall of Fame Vote and is a voter for the Heisman Trophy. Canzano's work has also appeared in GQ magazine and The Sporting News.

Canzano left The Oregonian in March 2022, after 20 years with the newspaper.[1]

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KChiefs1 07-27-2022 10:57 AM

Canzano today:

GRANDSTANDING: Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren did a fair bit of grandstanding as part of the conference media day on Tuesday. He didn’t do a cartwheel on stage, but he came very close.

Warren spent a good portion of his time touting the Big Ten’s poaching of USC and UCLA. Pac-12 stakeholders weren’t happy about all the horn tooting. Said one conference employee: “The only people happy with the USC/UCLA move are those in the B1G, USC/UCLA and FOX.”

Warren also appeared to take a shot at the Pac-12 when he was asked about expansion and the health of college football.

Said Warren: “If a conference is allegedly on the brink, there are many more issues than members leaving. There are deeper issues. I’m not promoting conferences facing a crisis or going out of business, not at all. But I come out of the NFL for 21 years. In the NFL, either you succeed or you fail, and that's not only on the field. I’m talking about in business, operationally. Either you have your fan base or you don’t.”

The Pac-12’s biggest problem is its media rights deal. The conference has advantageous geography in the Pacific Time Zone. It has good history, strong brands, and it wants very much to matter. But let’s face it — losing USC and UCLA was a gut punch from Warren’s conference. That blow equated to the loss of 5.2 million television households.

How do you replace that if you’re the Pac-12?

I’ve long wondered about San Diego State as a Pac-12 expansion candidate. It would add back 1.1 million TV homes in the Southern California footprint. I also wonder about UNLV as a possible addition.

The Las Vegas television market is only in the top-40 right now, but the region is growing rapidly. There’s a pile of untapped sponsorship money buried in Vegas and commissioner George Kliavkoff lives there and is deeply connected. I’ll bet he rarely pays for a meal.

UNLV might not command a full share of media rights distributions out of the gate. It also plays home football games in the NFL stadium in Las Vegas. It would be a speculative play, for sure, but doubling down on Vegas makes sense.


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