Okay, well that's ****ing not true, at all.

Many teams announce the signings of all their draft picks at once and most usually sign in clusters.

And that's just ****ing horseshit.

Most teams, not including the Chiefs, have plenty of cap space in which to sign their draft picks and do so as soon as possible, especially since slotting began in 2011.

Print em.

I can’t wait to see how Veach manages his first draft.

The way he ended his press conference saying with a smirk that you may see them back in the first round was very interesting. Like he already has multiple options for doing so.

I’m excited to see how the board falls and what we do.

So? Just because they're announced at once doesn't mean they're signed at once. Do you think teams bring in the rookies and have everybody sign their contract on the count of three? And even if they did, you don't have to.

How is this even disagreeing with what I posted? I jumped into a discussion of salary cap rules, I'm not advocating that we spend up to the limit. I'm arguing what the limit is.

Good ****ing god, teams want to get their draftees under contract as soon as possible so that they can participate in OTA's and minicamps.

Well that's just dumb. Every team is assigned a Rookie Salary Cap each year and teams need to have salary cap space in order to sign their rookies, plain and simple.

Another advantage for the Pats.

So after both Williams the cap space stands at ~$5m? If they sign either Wright or Watson they have to be done for now?

Please use first names, I'm lost hahaha

I don't see how they get into the 1st round without either trading Justin Houston or trading next year's 1st plus several other picks.

I think this was discussed in here recently, although it might have been a different thread, but it's pretty easy to get into the low 1st - the 54 pick, plus the 2nd round 2019 from the Rams (valued at around the 80th pick as a year in the future picks are treated like being a round ish worse on average) and you're practically there.

Awful franchise with no direction or plan

Get rid of one coaching nightmare with Wilkerson, then try to mortgage the farm for Suh... lord have mercy

Yet another awful franchise with no direction or plan, no wonder the Patriots rule that division

A work buddy of mine is a Dolphins fan (from Columbus Ohio wtf?) and he sees it as well... nothing they do makes any damn sense, they have no real blueprint to work from

Gase/Grier are in over their heads just like Bowles/Macaggnan

We should all thank our lucky stars that we have Reid and Veach, there is at least a well thought out process at work

I think that's a best case scenario that wouldn't pan out in reality, but even if it would, I can't believe there'd be a player available at the very end of the 1st that would make it worth giving up 2 2nds plus at least another 4th. I guess we'll see what Veach thinks or at least what he's able to do.

You probably need what you said plus a 3rd round pick to get in the low 1st round. Then, it would be a draft just like Dorsey's first two drafts where he did not have a 2nd round pick.

I just can't wait to see what Veach will do because I was really hoping for more additions to the defense and he seems to be all about the offense in FA.

If the defense is anything below average it very might be held against Veach.

Exactly. He is also a douchebag miscreant; kinda like the one we off-loaded to the Rams.

Hell no.

I do agree it seems unlikely, I would rather the 2019 2nd was packaged to end up with two 2018 2nd round picks.

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LMAO

Jones is a very likeable person

Bob Sutton would whoop Marcus Peters ass

I think I've explained effective salary cap for rookies like every year for 10 years straight in the draft forum... maybe not 10, because I haven't been here 10 years, but ****ing A.......

It's only going to "effectively" (see also net cap effect) cost the Chiefs an estimated max of about $1.1 million in 1st-year salaries for their draft class. Total actual salaries are close to $4.5 million but like was mentioned by bigjosh, not all salaries count against the cap. The $1.1 million represents the rise in costs over the bottom x number of players being replaced by draft picks. The cost of players being replaced is always assumed to be 480,000 for estimation purposes. In the case of the Chiefs, that number should be higher, and depress that $1.1 down closer to about $500k.

All told, the Chiefs need very little cap space to sign their draft class.

Joel Corey says they need $2 million this year because they don’t have a first rounder but once again, cap space is imperative.

Teams can’t sign draftees if they’re at or over the cap.

Lol

I can't say for certain, but OTC estimates have been pretty close in the past and the rookie compensation rules make it extremely complex to figure individual salaries by pick off-the-cuff.

The main point is that some people seem to believe that the Chiefs (or any team, for that matter) can just sign their draft choices because those draftees push 7 or however many guys past the thresholds of 51 players, therefore not raising the cap.

The issue they all seem to be missing is that while that is true, teams still need available cap space in order to sign their picks.

They’re not cutting the bottom 7.

Only the Chiefs first 4 selections and bonuses paid to UDFA's should have an impact on the Chiefs cap situation going into camp.

Being around the bottom for a lot of these picks makes the hits minimal.

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I’d rather end up with two 2nd rounders & two 3rd rounders. I’m looking at Cleveland’s 64th pick.

Trade our two 4th rounders plus future pick to move up.

4 players in the top 100 would be nice.

That would be ideal, I agree. I was thinking it would have to be one of our thirds this year plus the 2nd next year to end up 2,2,3,4,4 but I would much prefer 2,2,3,3. When you condense picks whiffing on one always has a bigger impact but 4 top 100's would be amazing.

The dream would be to move up somehow to get a guy who has monster potential in the first (like say Taven Bryan) but realistically I just can't see it happening.

If you had 2,2,3,3 at the top would you throw all 4 picks at the defense?

yes with one exception, we could sure use a tough OG too

You think?...

I think 4 solid players on defense would be better than 1 superior player. This defense needs more than one player.

lol to you guys for counting the Chiefs Cap space. I'm sure the Chiefs brass will call and thank you because without your help they would definitely over spend and not have enough for the upcoming draft picks. Football contracts and the cap are all BS. IF you can give a guy $26m signing bonus and pay him a cap salary of $800k then you can sign anyone.

Holy shit, you are a dipshit.

Nah he's on point. Reading people on here trying to analyze the cap and project contracts is painful.

I think it's part of some fans' hobby. Why judge if they enjoy looking into the accounting and contract aspect of the game?

Couch-Potato is a butt ****ing moron.

People aren't counting the cap because they think that anyone from the Chiefs, or the NFL give a rat's ass.

They're counting it because they want to have some hope about knowing if the Chiefs can still spend, this year and in years to follow.

And secondly, and even more stupidly, is that signing bonus would hit the cap at 5 or 6 mil a year, depending on the number of years.

So no, he's a dipshit, cause it "don't" work like that.

Yah, I’m sure Suh would’ve played for an $800k cap number on a $100 million deal ROFL

It's a ****ing message board.....in the OFFSEASON.....

Seems like there's mainly two types, type A just throwing out fantasy signings that are not in any way grounded in reality but are fun to think about, and type B who actually try and predict realistic moves that could happen.

Type B's are the ones calculating the cap, as you can't really guess who could be signed without looking at the numbers.

Each to their own I guess.

I guess free agency frenzy isn't frenzied anymore.

Who stated that? You know it's so sad to see Done drag you around like a rag doll on here then you try and suck his cock. You are a pathetic cuck.

What in the actual **** are you talking about? Because you’re a negative Nancy and hate every move and I laugh at some of your comments, I’m suddenly on Dane’s jock? GTFO


I was making a silly analogy because you think Couch is on point lol.

Half Baked Potato

Pretty sure signing bonuses are pro-rated over the life of the contract, by the way, so in your example if that was a 2 year deal the cap hit in 2018 would be $13.8m, or $7.3m on a 4 year deal, neither of which the Chiefs can currently afford.

Still some good safeties out there for pennies

Trade for ODB.....Move him to safety

Then print em

For o city
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Jets owner says they’ve pulled offer to Ndamukong Suh

Free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh has lost what was reportedly his most lucrative contract offer.

Jets CEO Christopher Johnson said today that after he and General Manager Mike Maccagnan talked it over and decided to rescind the offer they had made to Suh.

“Our thinking just changed a bit,” Johnson told reporters today at the owners’ meeting.

Johnson didn’t give any further explanation of why the Jets would pull their offer. It could be that they didn’t think Suh was interested in playing for them for any reason other than the fact that they have a lot of cap space and can offer him a lot of money, and having him on the team only to cash a paycheck wouldn’t be the way to get the most out of Suh’s considerable talents.

But whatever the reasons, it now appears that Suh will have to go someplace else. That may be what he wanted anyway, but losing the Jets’ offer could mean losing leverage in contract negotiations.


https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes....tsrc=newsroom

Saw that earlier was gonna text you

ITS HAPPENING
ROFL

Get reasy

The Chiefs could trade a 3rd rounder this year, then let him walk in 2019 and receive a 3rd round Comp Pick.

And maybe walk away with a Super Bowl title.

Browns signed Drew Stanton.

WTF are they doing at qb?

Taylor
Stanton
Kessler
Hogan

Will draft a qb early, likely Darnold.

If Kessler is let go, the Chiefs should look at him to be the #3. Kid has upside and some experience....

Cut Kessler and Hogan. Duh. They are worthless.

Nice strategy.

No thanks. No more divas.

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From @gmfb: My understanding is that #Giants WR Odell Beckham Jr will not set foot on a field without a new contract extension agreed to — with the #Giants or any team. ... This comes a day after owner John Mara said no one is “untouchable” in trade talks.

It would be pretty amazing to see OBJ here, even for just a year. But, if he’s serious about not getting on the field without an extension, it’s a distraction I don’t think we want.

Classic Dorsey stock piling trash for nothing. If they pass on Darnold he will go down in flames.

That dream died when they got Watkins

OBJ is a ****ing moron.

Rams | Ndamukong Suh leaning toward Rams
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Free-agent DT Ndamukong Suh (Dolphins) is leaning toward the Los Angeles Rams, but he hasn't ruled out the Tennessee Titans or New Orleans Saints.

I'm sure it has been discussed, but what about Junior Galette?

Assuming he’s too old for Veach’s liking. Also has a rough injury history. Don’t see that happening


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29/30 years old Granted he is no spring chicken, but he's not terribly old.

They've got plenty of OLB's. They need DL.

Chiefs Blueprint: Free Agency Edition

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This is what I’m thinking. I’ll take an OLB in rd 3 if they want one. Really would like more talent inside with Chris Jones.

What holes do we have to fill on the defense?

DE: Jones, Bailey, Jenkins, RNR
NT: Williams, Hamilton
OLB: Houston, Ford, KPass, Nicholas, Zombo
ILB: Hitchens, Ragland, Eligwe, Smith
CB: Fuller, Amerson, Nelson, Lampkin, Redmond
S: Berry, Sorensen, McQuay, Murray

Looks to me like we need to come out with a DE, OLB, CB and maybe 2 safeties.

DE and some safeties and corners.

Yep. The only thing that's really changed since January is NT and ILB.

Safety, Cornerback, DE, ILB (depth) and OLB (depth) are most likely at least 3 out of the first 4 selections in the draft and I hope like hell they address Left Guard.

They could use help at TE2 as well.

What would be crazy is if Veach goes "All In" on defense and takes a Left Guard at #54 and TE at #78, or packages picks to move up and get those positions solidified.

Considering the Super Bowl was 44-33, it might not be a bad strategy. Overwhelm the opposing defense each and every week.

Yup. Imagine if we even have an injury to Jones or Williams on the DL this year? We’d be stuck with Nacho, an old Bailey and Jenkins as the main cogs as full time on all downs.

That’s why I’m thinking DL is our first pick.

Possible.

I'm guessing with the talk about a young and fast defense they'll go with defense early and often in the draft.

Yeah, I don't think it'll happen that Veach uses his first two picks on offense but if he did, it would be a shock to everyone (including me) predicting that he loads up on defense.

In the last few years, we have a safety (Berry) go down and the secondary becomes SOL.

Our depth there is scary.

CB looks even worse to me. Because it looks like we no longer have a CB that can shut down one side. Maybe a defensive scheme can help out, like when they had to have Berry try some CB.

It’s no longer needing just the other side of Peters anymore. Our CB starters and depth looks like an area that really has to have help from this draft.

Fuller was a stud in the slot. Does he stay there?

I can’t imagine the Rams are wondering where to put Peters. You put them where they play best.

Like Houston rushing the freaking passer.

But I worry about Amerson or Nelson as full time starters. Hope they can get a few gems from this draft.

Nope. Reid and Veach have both addressed this and said he will play outside.

It'll be interesting to see which side Sutton decides to use him.

I'm thinking he just replaces Peters in that spot. Nelson in the slot and or outside and a new corner drafted early.

The Dline could very well be at the same level as last year or even better even if there were to be no more addition, granted it wasn't very good last year. The CB is a huge unknown right now. I don't know how you can do anything but to draft one high, which means at the very minimum with their #54 pick.

I have a feeling Veach really trusts Fuller to be great but I would be certainly concerned if they were to not trade for a CB or draft one with a 2nd round pick.

Fuller, Amerson and Nelson all have been injured at some point and you don't exactly know what level of play you will get from Nelson and Amerson so you have to draft a CB early.

I think you put Fuller and Nelson in the base package and when you move to nickel....you slide Nelson inside and put Amerson outside.

Look at the Eagles secondary last year. If they can beef the front 7 up it would help a lot.