Wright is ready to capitalize on his rival KK making a fool of himself through this whole process, to the point where KK was intimating that they wouldn't spend much time covering Missouri. Wright is ready to accept the huddled masses of Mizzou fans yearning to breathe free of KK's butthurt.

If he thinks there won't be any local interest in Missouri, he is sadly mistaken. This will increase local awareness of Missouri, in football season especially.

Do you think it's possible that a group of people doesn't share a hivemind? I don't know, maybe different people feel differently about this? Naw, they just can't make their minds up...

lulz

One thing that will be interesting to see... how much will the KC market be considered a "Big 12-2-1-1" market for college football once Missouri is gone?

For basketball, KU obviously has the coverage in the market. For football, it's obvious they don't (unless they're having a miraculous season).

Missouri is the big draw among the local schools for college football.

I don't know that KU/KSU get enough TV sets during college football season that the Big 12 will get credit for that TV market when it comes time to renegotiate the football TV deals. T-shirt KU fans don't care about football, and Nebraska has as big a college football fan presence in KC as KSU. With 2/3 of the metro's population outside the league's footprint, the Big 12 might be negotiating a football deal without big markets outside Texas.

That was what ultimately destroyed the SWC (no major TV markets outside Texas)...

Duncan, I think that could be an important issue. Previously, let's say half of the Kansas City metro and most all of St. Louis were Big 12 markets. Losing basically 1.5 major cities is not going to help the revenue situation, to say nothing of replacing Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Missouri with TCU, Louisville, and whomever else.

The profile of the conference has both lessened and become even more Texas-centric than it was before Nebraska's departure. The revenue disparity is going to become wide as the SEC will be set for a big raise when the next TV deal happens, but the Big 12 can hardly expect that.

The Big 12 is a sinking ship, I think. I hope for the sake of the fans of bystanders schools that some kind of conference merge or basketball conference can be made, it would be awful for ISU fans or KSU fans or any others to be the victims here, for no sin other than being a second school in a small state. Seems kind of sad, though I agree with everyone doing what is best for their institution.

Yet they will still only have 5 football teams, and none of them will be ranked. The Mountain Conference West USA thinks the Big East is a cluster****.

One more reason not to listen to that nut job Wright.

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Amen. Why would I care about the Florida\Georgia, LSU\Auburn, and Alabama\Tennessee games when I could hear about BYU/Baylor, Iowa State\Louisville, and Texas Tech\Kansas?

Now this can't be right. I have been assured by Stewie and a few other CP Mensa members that the Big 12's TV deal will be massive with or without Mizzou. Texas will get a blank check from the networks and divide it equally among its brothers in arms. WTF?

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It's not like the local media ever spent a huge amount of time covering Texas/Texas A&M or other games far afield while still being in the conference. I am sure the coverage of the SEC would all be from an MU perspective. Keitzman just acted a fool through the whole process, swearing there was no interest in Missouri, that the big 12 is more stable, that it would be foolish, that the money really isn't better, and also, scaring fans that their school won't get media coverage. He was trying to wield whatever influence he had on the process, no doubt about that. Turns out is didn't have much, even after trying everything.

He almost seems to have been going through the Kubler/Ross grief stages over the demise of the B12.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

I wonder what will be heard today. Anger? Sour grapes? This is an upgrade? Acceptance...?

when it's all said and done, KK will ignore the fact that he's been completely wrong at every turn and somehow spin it into 'see, this is exactly what I said would happen"

Actually, it's a pretty strong argument to listen to him.

KK is coming up on the radio. Today's meltdown should be classic.

He's such a jerk!! :mad:

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This thread is circular, like the snake eating itself. I look for updates here but find the same thing over and over again. It's like CNN.

Might as well give up being a Mizzou fan...they are no better than the Royals according to KK.

Just beating the "Missouri can't compete in the SEC" drum, starting by playing a clip from Herbstreit and saying that he didn't really mean what he said when he said Missouri would walk in around the equator of that conference, and that they could compete.

That will be the party line I guess, "you are gonna get killed over there", because its not falsifiable except over the course of years.

I've got no problem listening to him. His tears sustain me. If he wants to pull down his pants and march down Main Street for attention and ratings, he can go for it.

He may need to do that...if he stops covering Mizzou like he is threatening to do, his ratings will only be going down.

Reminds me of that speech Kennedy gave about trying to put a man on the moon. Some people say, why do this, why go to the moon, why climb Everest, etc. And his response, KK, was that we chose to go to the moon not because it was easy but because it was hard. Missouri believes in their program and is not afraid to take on a massive challenge to try to be greater. Digging your feet in and throwing a fit about the way the world is won't help anyone. Missouri says, "We belong up there." The SEC seems to agree.

The shrill, small voices of naysaying can stay where they are and try to be happy with what they have as the world evolves around them.

Missouri says, so long and thanks for all the fish.

KK ripping into callers now....he is getting ready to blow.

You're talking about intercollegiate sports, right?

Dumbass.

"Don't put my words in my mouth!"

I had to turn it off when he was comparing this to hoping the Broncos get Luck, because then the Chiefs will be in a better division.

But KK is a big Mizzou fan according to him. He loves Mizzou!

I don't see why that's inaccurate. He went on for 15 minutes about how Missouri is making a mistake because it will be hard. Well, shying away from doing things that are hard is not the attitude they have.

How can ANYONE listen to him?

Its impossible to field a winning team in the SEC because all the teams are so good!

That's like saying that nobody goes to that restaurant because its too crowded to get a table.

OMG Did you hear what KIETZMAN just said?

It's fun to listen to him melt down on callers like that one. Entertaining, no question about it. But he is a sideshow in the end.

NOT.

He is the lone voice of KSU Athletics department...

He is Ballsack!

Apparently you guys who are so outraged by KK's position don't understand he is a KSU guy. Of course he is going to want the Big 12 to stay together and of course he isn't going to be very interested in the SEC if MU goes there. Why would you expect him to feel any other way. I am sure most of you felt the same way about Nebraska when they left the conference ...don't be hypocrites and act like it's bad when Nebraska leaves but it's great when MU leaves.

That...is inaccurate.

I think most intellectually honest people said that it was great for Nebraska that they left. At the time, the departures challenged the integrity of the Big XII, but the only people to blame for that are the administrators who developed and structured an unsound conference.

Nebraska is a proud (junior) member if the B1G, and it was a good move for them.

Perhaps the B1G should call themselves the Big XIi in order to avoid confusion. When Nebraska is no longer a junior member, they can capitalize the second "i".

Congratulations to Missouri on their upcoming big move to the SEC East so that Auburn doesn't get a recruiting advantage over Alabama in Florida and Georgia!

Don't worry, everyone's equal in the SEC.

I know, some of them are just more equal. They have to make sure that the equality is just right.

KK says Mizzou will never win 10 games in a season again as long he will be on the radio if they go.....

I guess we could call it the KK curse?

I will gladly take the recruiting advantage in Georgia and Florida.

Holy shit! A KSU grad and a KU grad are discussing MU, and Boal is claiming to be an objective outsider because he didn't go to a Big XII school.

Must on here cried like bitches and said the move was because they couldn't beat Texas.

I've never heard someone so scared/angry that another team is moving to a better conference than KK.

Any way to listen to his rants for someone who does not live in the KC metro area?

You know its bad when te Oklahoma guy, Todd Leabo, is defending Mizzou.

Just google "810 WHB" and you will get a link to streaming audio of Kietzman's streaming tears and streaming vag.

I swear to God, KK is literally going to break down and start sobbing any minute.

This has gone beyond funny. I am seriously worried about his mental health right now. He needs to go to grief counseling.

Not only does Kietzman think Mizzou is making a bad move by going to the SEC, he thinks the Raiders made a good trade in getting Palmer. (Seriously)

**** you guys for making me tune into this shit. When I tuned in these dumbasses were trying to justify the Palmer trade.

I don't think that is what he is about. He and his radio station have made a lot of money indirectly from the Big 12 being centered right around their transmitter. Now that is changing. I think he tried everything in his tacklebox to sway public opinion against the move and couldn't do it. Maybe there is a component that is reacting because this hurts his team, but it is about money for him too.

How many times is Reetodd going to say Ballsack?

Awesome radio.

Loved every second.

You think Missouri leaving the Big 12 hurts Kansas State?

what are al these "Ballsack" references.....I must have missed something.

Of course not. Four terrible universities bailing from a conference has no effect on said conference's integrity or national perception and thus has no possible effect on K-State or any other team in the league.

The SEC has an STD. /KK (What he really said: I think Missouri has fallen in love with a girl and hasn't had her tested yet.)

Yeah, except not so much. Objectively your facilities, athletics endowment etc are going to be in line with the Mississippi schools and Vandy. Unless donations somehow grow _enormously_ and sustainably that is just how its going to be too. You'll have some good years I'm sure but sustained success? I wish you luck--because I couldn't care less who wins in the SEC--but I sure wouldn't hold my breath. No hard feelings here honestly, but it sure looks like you're just going to get paid more to fill the same conference niche that you fill in the Big 12. I'm not going sit here and claim that is a bad move but lets not act like its a game changer.

As long as it remains an AQ conference I'm good.

:thumb:

ROFL

WHAT A CRAAAAAAZY IDEA!

I think it could be a disaster. When looking at that conference realignment tool, I didn't see a single plausible scenario involving KSU going to a superconference. The most likely scenario involved Texas and Tech going to the B1G and KU going to the PAC with KSU. In other words, not likely at all. Short of that, it would require the B1G taking 2 Kansas teams.

I wouldn't call Nebraska terrible.

So when does MU make it official and when do they start playing in the SEC?

You do realize 4 super conferences is just a talking head creation?

It sure ain't a game changer though. You're still going to have a lot more in common with Miss St, Ole Miss and Vandy than LSU, Florida and Bama.

Yup, millions of things in common with all of them, and one more with the the first three in having the bar set higher to strive for greater things.

Yep. Its just a myth. Never mind the fact that the 4 supposed superconferences have all added teams in the past 18 months.

Never mind the fact that both of the other BCS conferences have lost members.

Never mind the fact that 4 of the remaining schools in the Big IIX just tried to bolt to the PAC.

Never mind the fact that WVU and Rutgers are actively shopping themselves to the superconferences.

Never mind the fact that the MWC and CUSA decided they had to merge into a 40 team conference in a desperate attempt to remain viable.

Those 4 conferences would hate to create a playoff that would crowd out the have-nots in order to divvy up billions amongst themselves. Its all good in the 'hood.

I doubt any disaster is pending. But you have a conference that lost two members last year, two this year, and there are two others that were actively shopping themselves to the PAC-whatever. This Big 12 isn't going to be around 5 years from now. Something probably will be. Will it have Texas or OU, will it get an automatic bid, you can't say those things for sure. You are counting on Texas and OU to still be around when they have demostrated a clear desire to leave.

I think this just leaves bystanders wondering if the Big 12 has crossed the event horizon now, but without anything to do but watch

Why don't Miss, Miss St, and Vandy try to move to the Big IIX?

So, we're going to 4 conferences and Missouri is leaving because Texas is gonna go independent eventually? I have that correct?

Pac would have had their 16 if it was gonna go to 16.

There won't ever be a 4 conference playoff because of antitrust lawsuits.

I think the SEC goes after NC State. If they get them, WVU will round out the conference. If that happens, its on. The ACC has to fill a spot (possibly 3) to replace State, and nobody decent is choosing the Big IIX over the ACC.

This thing is more likely going to happen within 18 months than not IMO.

This entire post is fail.

Great rebuttal.

You've spent the entire last month saying Missouri should leave because Texas is just sticking around long enough to build the LHN and then they're gonna go independent.

So now suddenly you're saying that they're gonna belong to a superconference?

Yes, because it is impossible for that to be their intention, and at the same time impossible that they end up not being able to do so and end up having to go to a superconference instead. In both of those scenarios, MU going to the SEC is the right move if they have the opportunity.

They're happy to be well compensated for mediocrity?

Never mind. I didn't realize you were just making things up.

If it goes to superconferences, the LHN will be worthless because Texas won't be able to fill a schedule. They will drop the LHN and join the PAC IMO.

Right, so whether you said it or not, both of the things he said that you said are theoretically correct.

I agree, just expanding on the point.

The anti-trust thing is dumb as well. There are already multiple divisions in football. There is no reason that 64 (more likely 60 or 62) teams can't form their own division. Hell, they could tell the NCAA to **** right off if they really wanted. I don't think they would, and I think there would still be bowl games in addition to the playoff, but I see no major hurdles that couldn't be overcome. We are talking about massive institutions with tremendous pull within their respective states. What politician is going to stand in their way when every state with a major football program is represented?

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT ALREADY MISSOURI!