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chiefsfan987 06-13-2010 03:55 PM

Thats true, but if I'm the Pac 10 I'd take Kansas. Its a stronger brand, brings in more revenue, and heck, you can add Utah any time. Because of its location the eastern conferences will never make a play for it. If expansion goes beyond 16 teams in the future, then is when I'd make my play for Utah if I'm the Pac 10.

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 6818321)
If you look closer at demographics, SLC is at best split in half between Utah and BYU. Utah doesn't have markets like Wichita and Topeka to supplement the competition of KU/KC market. That gives KU a roughly 300-500 thousand edge in viewership. Utah's ace in the hole is Sen. Hatch, that's the only reason it is a tossup.

A quick glance at the Provo-Orem area shows a population of 500k+.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provo%E...ropolitan_area

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6818344)
Hey, at least we're not tied to KSU.

Chained. Not tied, chained. And we're drowning them.

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818351)
Chained. Not tied, chained. And we're drowning them.

Please excuse my lie. I man up to it. I said "tied."

BWillie 06-13-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 6818347)
Thats true, but if I'm the Pac 10 I'd take Kansas. Its a stronger brand, brings in more revenue, and heck, you can add Utah any time. Because of its location the eastern conferences will never make a play for it. If expansion goes beyond 16 teams in the future, then is when I'd make my play for Utah if I'm the Pac 10.

One thing you need to take into account is:

Population of Utah in 1990: 1.7 million
Population of Utah now: 2.7 million

Population of Kansas in 1990: 2.5 million
Population of Kansas now: 2.8 million

It would be a tough decision for the Pac-10 still though, because Kansas does make more money than Utah right now and carries a traditional powerhouse in basketball. Actually, I changed my mind. Either way they go, it's a good choice. I'm obviously biased for Kansas though.

BWillie 06-13-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6818103)
Vali I've been watching alot of the BigTen Network. I gotta say Iowa would be a championship team if they had a better QB then Stanzi. Some of his decisions throwing the ball are totally ridiculous.

The bastard wins though. He has nuts of steel when it counts. He's due for a pick six in the first quarter of every game, but he'll throw some bombs in the 4th quarter to even it out.

beer bacon 06-13-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 6818280)

Lucci over at Texags is contradicting this. He says A&M is still considering the PAC-10 offer.

beer bacon 06-13-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6818374)
Lucci over at Texags is contradicting this. He says A&M is still considering the PAC-10 offer.

Right after I posted this Aggieyells put up an article saying A&M has turned the PAC-10 down.

BWillie 06-13-2010 04:23 PM

Why doesn't the Big 12 just try to make it a 16 team conference and poach the good Big East schools why they can. I'd do that, if that fails. Then consider other options. And when I mean Big 12, I mean Texas.

What is wrong w/ trying to do this?

Kansas
K-State
Iowa State
Missouri
West Virginia
Louisville
Syracuse
Cincinnati
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
UConn
Pittsburgh
Texas
Texas A&M
Baylor
Texas Tech

I know the geography doesn't make much sense, but that is one hell of a conference right there. Try it, see what happens. It can't hurt. Let the Big 10 have Rutgers and Notre Dame would pretty much be forced to join the Big 10. It would be nice is the Big 12 could kick out Baylor & ISU and then make a play for South Florida/Utah/Memphis. That conference right there would bring in good money and the Pac-10 would be sitting there w/ their limp dick in their hand. If it wasn't for the fucking Big 10.

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6817731)
No interest in KU hanging with MU - a university with delusions of grandeur that started this mess and is now desperately trying pledge loyalty to a conference it mistakenly felt it could throw under the bus for a better gig.

Zero value staying with KSU, a second/third tier school that has latched onto KU for too long now and brings nothing to the table academically or athletically. I'd like to see KU get a Pac 16 invite, get away from MU and KSU and reset.

LMAO

Look who finally returned! And spouting all the talking points from phognet. It's nice you could get the courage to return.

BWillie 06-13-2010 04:24 PM

For the record, as a KU BASKETBALL fan. Pac-10 is the least attractive option out of anything but the MWC merger.

Saulbadguy 06-13-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818383)
LMAO

Look who finally returned! And spouting all the talking points from phognet. It's nice you could get the courage to return.

He hasn't posted since March until this thread. ROFL

chiefsfan987 06-13-2010 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6818384)
For the record, as a KU BASKETBALL fan. Pac-10 is the least attractive option out of anything but the MWC merger.

The only downside I see with the Pac 10 is travel.

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6818384)
For the record, as a KU BASKETBALL fan.

As opposed to all those KU football fans who really don't give a **** about basketball?

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6818398)
As opposed to all those KU football fans who really don't give a **** about basketball?

In BWill's case it's "As opposed to all those IOWA FOOTBALL fans who really don't care about KU football.

He's a COMO.

jAZ 06-13-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 6818347)
Thats true, but if I'm the Pac 10 I'd take Kansas. Its a stronger brand, brings in more revenue, and heck, you can add Utah any time. Because of its location the eastern conferences will never make a play for it. If expansion goes beyond 16 teams in the future, then is when I'd make my play for Utah if I'm the Pac 10.

Best argument I've heard for KU.

hawkchief 06-13-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818383)
LMAO

Look who finally returned! And spouting all the talking points from phognet. It's nice you could get the courage to return.

Gonna be fun to cut the cord from you, little brother. Have fun in D2 where you belong.

You thought KSU was irrelevant before.......

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6818410)
Gonna be fun to cut the cord from you, little brother. Have fun in D2 where you belong.

You thought KSU was irrelevant before.......


LMAO

Be sure to tune in for the next post. In three months.

hawkchief 06-13-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818411)
LMAO

Be sure to tune in for the next post. In three months.

Sorry, I won't be hanging around on the Missouri Valley boards to see your drivel. Enjoy!

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6818417)
Sorry, I won't be hanging around on the Missouri Valley boards to see your drivel. Enjoy!

In three months:



"But... But... It's all KSU's fault"!!!

Al Bundy 06-13-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818383)
LMAO

Look who finally returned! And spouting all the talking points from phognet. It's nice you could get the courage to return.

He seems to think that his school is far too important. K-State, MU and KU are all on the same level when it comes to importance. They all have their strong points and their weak points. In the sport that counts MU and K-State are much closer than KU and KU of course is the top dog in basketball. But for Curly to act all high and mighty is asinine at best.

BWillie 06-13-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818401)
In BWill's case it's "As opposed to all those IOWA FOOTBALL fans who really don't care about KU football.

He's a COMO.

No I'm not. I've have reason to like both Iowa and Kansas. I don't want to go into detail about it anymore!!!

I was saying as a BASKETBALL fan...the Big East is better. As a Kansas football fan, Pac-10 would be better IMO. So take your poison.

ChiTown 06-13-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6818417)
Sorry, I won't be hanging around on the Missouri Valley boards to see your drivel. Enjoy!

ROFL

We'll see you on the MWC BB's. :clap:

hawkchief 06-13-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6818429)
He seems to think that his school is far too important. K-State, MU and KU are all on the same level when it comes to importance. They all have their strong points and their weak points. In the sport that counts MU and K-State are much closer than KU and KU of course is the top dog in basketball. But for Curly to act all high and mighty is asinine at best.

What exactly are KSU's strong points?

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6818417)
Sorry, I won't be hanging around on the Missouri Valley boards to see your drivel. Enjoy!

LMAO.

So many fans of so many "elite" universities.

KU (and by "university" we mean "basketball")



























KSU













MU.

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:01 PM

Warm up the MWC tractors.

Quote:

The Big Score: A&M goes it alone

Mark Passwaters
Special to AggieYell.com

What was once unthinkable has, apparently, come to pass. Texas A&M and
the University of Texas, barring the unforeseen or political activity,
will be heading their separate ways in 2011. The Aggies will be the
newest member of the Southeastern Conference.

Aggieyell.com has confirmed through multiple sources that Pac-10
Commissioner Larry Scott met with members of the A&M Board of Regents
in College Station Sunday morning. At that meeting, the Scott was
informed that the board would be declining the conference's offer to
join. Scott was the second conference head to visit College Station
this weekend, with the SEC's Mike Slive being the first.

Aggieyell.com has been told by more than once source that the driving
forces behind the move to the SEC are Board Chairman Morris Foster and
A&M Chancellor Mike McKinney. In part due to a push by former A&M and
Alabama head coach--and current Regent--Gene Stallings, there is a 6-3
board majority in favor of making the move to the SEC.

A&M Athletic Director Bill Byrne was not involved in either meeting
and has not been consulted on the decision by the board. This
decision, sources indicate, will be the board's alone.

The support of Foster and McKinney, both close associates of Gov. Rick
Perry, for the SEC has surprised many observers. Perry, who has
repeatedly said he wanted the Texas teams to stick together--a move
many thought meant he supported the Pac-10 concept. Perry has since
said he intends to stay out of the process, which he may indeed be doing.

Reaper16 06-13-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6818439)
LMAO.

So many fans of so many "elite" universities.

ISU








KU (and by "university" we mean "basketball")



























KSU













MU.

FYP /RustShack

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:04 PM

aTm to Texas recruits:

Come play in the SEC!!!!

Texas recruits:

"Cool! I'm going to Fla, Bama, LSU, ...."

Al Bundy 06-13-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6818437)
What exactly are KSU's strong points?

Football now that Bill Snyder is back.

DaKCMan AP 06-13-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818447)
aTm to Texas recruits:

Come play in the SEC!!!!

Texas recruits:

"Cool! I'm going to Fla, Bama, LSU, ...."

:clap:

In reality, this *could* start to peck away at UT's dominance of the state (albeit, very slowly).

the Talking Can 06-13-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818447)
aTm to Texas recruits:

Come play in the SEC!!!!

Texas recruits:

"Cool! I'm going to Fla, Bama, LSU, ...."

and the reverse is true

FSU, Clemson, Miami, and GT get southern kids, after UF, Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, Miss St., and Ole Miss.....and all before A&M


people routinely misunderstand the SEC and southern kids.....


A&M in an effort to get away from big brother has walked in a conference that will crap on it 10x worse, cheat 10x worse....but pay them more $$$ for the honor of being a bitch

Pitt Gorilla 06-13-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6818303)
yea ... with tongue firmly planted in cheek while they continued to try and work out a deal with the Big-10

it's beyond stupid to try and pretend that MU wasn't "working it"

i guess no one should be surprised that MU and their fans are completely full of shit. They can't even even stop lying and about their lies.

They took their shot and it didn't work out(yet) ... MUron's just need to stop being such pussies and man up.

i fully expect them to pull another 180 and start talking shit with more lies if they end up going to the Big-10 later on.

Are you implying that my statement was a lie?

teedubya 06-13-2010 05:30 PM

If A&M announces the move to the SEC... that is 3 teams gone to 3 separate conferences.

This is CONFERENCEGGEDDON!!

Mosbonian 06-13-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 6818461)
Are you implying that my statement was a lie?

That or he's letting his intense hatred for all things MU color his reasonable thinking.

mmaddog
********

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:32 PM

PAC 10 commish's plane.

Quote:

ChrisLevel

That plane that is current in Austin just booked their flight plan for the next leg of their trip. Next stop? Kansas City, Missouri.
6 minutes ago via web

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:33 PM

Cats are out. Conference is dead. Hello (please) MWC.

007 06-13-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818467)
PAC 10 commish's plane.

So will it be talks with KU, MU or KSU? Or all three. Hmmmm

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:37 PM

It ain't going to be with KSU or MU.

ChiTown 06-13-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 6818470)
So will it be talks with KU, MU or KSU? Or all three. Hmmmm

:KU:

RustShack 06-13-2010 05:39 PM

One step closer to the Big East. Bring it on baby!

Al Bundy 06-13-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818471)
It ain't going to be with KSU or MU.

It will be with Blue Springs or Rockhurst high school.. both of those can beat KU in football.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:39 PM

All of this has put a real cloud over what could be a really good season this year.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6818476)
It will be with Blue Springs or Rockhurst high school.. both of those can beat KU in football.

ROFL holy****.

Pablo 06-13-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6818476)
It will be with Blue Springs or Rockhurst high school.. both of those can beat KU in football.

BAM!

Emeril thinks that was quality smack.

Bambi 06-13-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6818384)
For the record, as a KU BASKETBALL fan. Pac-10 is the least attractive option out of anything but the MWC merger.

For the record, as a KU FOOTBALL fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

Al Bundy 06-13-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6818481)
For the record, as a KU FOOTBALL fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

Why? so you can compete with Washington State for the worst team in the league?

teedubya 06-13-2010 05:45 PM

For the record, as a HOT CHEERLEADERS fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

Al Bundy 06-13-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6818483)
For the record, as a HOT CHEERLEADERS fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

Now that is something I sign off on...

RustShack 06-13-2010 05:49 PM

Which team is supposed to finish last in the Big 12 this year? Isn't it between Kansas and Kansas State?

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 6818485)
Now that is something I sign off on...

Yep.

ChiTown 06-13-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6818488)
Which team is supposed to finish last in the Big 12 this year? Isn't it between Kansas and Kansas State?

Who knows. I would guess ISU. They blow.

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6818488)
Which team is supposed to finish last in the Big 12 this year? Isn't it between Kansas and Kansas State?

Kansas of course.


But that's because they are chained to KSU.

Pablo 06-13-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6818488)
Which team is supposed to finish last in the Big 12 this year? Isn't it between Kansas and Kansas State?

I figured ISU was permanently penciled into that position.

teedubya 06-13-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818467)
PAC 10 commish's plane.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3936/jayhawks.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818496)
Kansas of course.


But that's because they are chained to KSU.

LMAO

healthpellets 06-13-2010 05:55 PM

in case you want to track what is believed to be Larry Scott's plane, here's the flight tracker from Austin to KC.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

jAZ 06-13-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818467)
PAC 10 commish's plane.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6818502)


Yea, I've been all over that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:56 PM

God we're getting pathetic with all of this...

RustShack 06-13-2010 05:57 PM

I just looked it up, its Kansas. Then Colorado and Baylor not to far behind(or ahead I should say) of them.

jAZ 06-13-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthpellets (Post 6818504)
in case you want to track what is believed to be Larry Scott's plane, here's the flight tracker from Austin to KC.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

We used that during our coaching search to track who was going where. We had the code for our top boosters plane. Really messed with their efforts to keep negotiations quiet (and pressure off of the coach in each home city).

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6818505)

Yea, yea. I've been all over that plane since it took off from Cal.

Pablo 06-13-2010 05:59 PM

Can someone PLEASE post a link for the Pac10 Commish's plane?????

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6818510)
We used that during our coaching search to track who was going where. We had the code for our top boosters plane. Really messed with their efforts to keep negotiations quiet (and pressure off of the coach in each home city).

Used it track the movements of the WVU plane that spirited Huggs out of MHK.

healthpellets 06-13-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6818517)
Can someone PLEASE post a link for the Pac10 Commish's plane?????

you just got put on double secret probation.

Bambi 06-13-2010 06:00 PM

I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

Reaper16 06-13-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6818524)
I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

It wouldn't surprise me if you and KnowMo were editors of The Sporting News.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-13-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6818481)
For the record, as a KU FOOTBALL fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

why, so you can see up close how much better a coach Jim Harbaugh is than Gill?

kstater 06-13-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6818524)
I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

Didn't they say that last year before, you know, finishing 12th out of 12?

ChiTown 06-13-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6818528)
It wouldn't surprise me if you and KnowMo were editors of The Sporting News.

ROFL

teedubya 06-13-2010 06:03 PM

With the Big 12 Collapsing, What Will Happen to Kansas?

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qmTg1GKr

At the Allen Fieldhouse at the University of Kansas, reverent basketball fans can slip in to center court to soak up Jayhawk history. And that's a lot of history. Wilt Chamberlain played here. The building is named for Hall of Fame coach F.C. "Phog" Allen. And the road out front commemorates an earlier coach, James Naismith, who — no exaggeration — invented basketball. Three national titles, repeated conference championships — KU is indisputably among the elite basketball programs in the nation.
Now the Jayhawks are wondering what conference will have them. After 16 years of uneasy coexistence, the Big 12 — the powerhouse affiliation of heartland college sports teams including Kansas, archrival Missouri, Texas and Oklahoma — is on the verge of collapse. The University of Nebraska, prized for its history as a football powerhouse, announced Friday it is headed to the Big 10, drawn by the older league's lucrative TV network. Colorado has bolted for the Pac-10. With the door wide open, the Big 12's powers in the south, including Texas and Oklahoma, appear poised to split, too. A decision is expected within days.
(Read "NCAA Mulls Expanding March Madness. Are They Mad?")
That could leave the Jayhawks stranded in the wreckage of the conference they helped to build — a conference steeped in history, based on a century-old alliance among rivals here in the valley of the Missouri River. "One hundred years of tradition, just being thrown away," sighed Daniel Roth, a KU senior who stole onto the Allen Fieldhouse court to show the hallowed place to his family, visiting from Dallas.
Some see the Big 12 shakeup as the first tremor of a nationwide, seismic realignment of major college sports, which until now have been organized in geographic clusters. The driving force is television dollars: over the next few years, four "super conferences" of 16 teams each could emerge, potentially producing super revenues. But a steep price might be paid in lost history.
At the Free State Brewing Co. in the heart of this historic college town, 40-year-old Kansas grad Jeff Landes paused during his lunch hour to fret. "It would be a real shame, because basketball as we know it would be over," he said. That may be an exaggeration, but he certainly captured the mood. If Missouri and Kansas end up in different conferences, it will disrupt one of the nation's oldest sports rivalries. Kansas and Missouri, the scene of some of the bitterest guerilla fighting in the Civil War, have launched their flagship football teams at one another for 118 years. Kansas and Nebraska have been going at it just as long.
(See the top 10 NCAA tournament first round upsets.)
And history counts around here. Patrons at the brew pub sip ales with names like John Brown and Josiah Miller, the anti-slavery activist who coined the state's motto, "Ad Astra per Aspera" — "to the stars through difficulties."
This has certainly been a difficult week, leaving Kansans shocked, anxious, even downright depressed. Basketball is big as ever at KU, thanks to current coach Bill Self, who couldn't inspire more awe around here if he walked across the Kansas River on his way to the office. But the conference realignment is all about football, because that's where the big money is. Texas and Oklahoma are football behemoths, and now they hold the fate of the Big 12 in their hands.
A columnist for the Kansas City Star called this potentially the "darkest sports hour" in the region's history. "If today is when the Big 12 really ends, this is something bigger, something scarier, something more permanent," Sam Mellinger wrote. "It's quite possible that Kansas City's college sports scene will never fully recover, will never again be as competitive or meaningful." On the 50,000-watt sports radio station that blankets the prairie, a commentator soothed potential callers: "We'll talk you off the bridge, we'll talk you off the ledge."
"It feels like The Grapes of Wrath — everyone is leaving," said Brett Beneke, a 23-year-old recent KU grad, on break from his job at a campus bagel shop. Part of the despair comes from the fact that this all seems so sudden. True, tensions between Nebraska and Texas simmered from the birth of the conference in 1994, when the old Big Eight absorbed the swaggering Longhorns and other refugees from the old Southwest Conference. And Missouri had been flirting with the Big 10 for months. (The romance apparently sputtered, and Nebraska wound up at the altar.) In spite of it all, the Big 12 never seemed stronger than this year, with teams high in the rankings of sport after sport after sport.
But beyond Texas, the Big 12 just doesn't have a lot of TV sets, and the conference was slow to face up to that problem. There's a feeling that the Big 10 — another history-drenched conference centered in the Midwest, and anchored by such teams as Michigan and Ohio State — outfoxed the Big 12 by putting together its own TV network, which has proved to be a cash cow for members. Nebraska's share of Big 12 TV revenues was $10 million a year; reportedly, the pact with the Big 10 will double that to $20 million.
At Kansas State, where the men's basketball team roared into the Elite Eight this season, coach Frank Martin called it a "crying shame" that "money, greed and jealousies" threatened to ruin historic relationships — not to mention leaving his Wildcats in the cold. Iowa State and Baylor, too, appear on the verge of homelessness.
(See the top 10 blown calls.)
U.S. Senators from Kansas and Iowa have lamented the potential breakup, but concede that there is little Congress can do. It all comes down to Texas, which could save the conference by sticking around and inviting a couple of other schools — speculation suggests Texas Christian University and Arkansas — to fill the slots opened by Nebraska and Colorado.
"Is the ship blowing completely apart, or can we bring in two new schools and patch the hole?" mused another fan at the Free State pub, Kevin Edwards. For the time being, Jayhawk fans distract themselves from their worries by moving an endless assortment of colleges around a mental chessboard. Suppose Texas goes to the Pac 10 but Texas A&M heads instead to the SEC — would that leave room for Kansas in the western super conference? Or maybe KU will latch on to the other coast, finding a home in an expanded Big East conference. The permutations are endless, for the time being.
Kansas coach Self has projected calm throughout, assuring fans that the school will end up in a power conference. "All of a sudden we became more attractive to people ... We may land in a group that gives us more exposure," Self told reporters Friday night, raising hopes. Was a behind-the-scenes deal in the works? Missouri fans, too, studied tea leaves, noticing that university officials did not look particularly stressed by the tumultuous week. As one Missouri alum said: "Maybe they have an ace up their sleeve."


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0qmTg1GKr

mikeyis4dcats. 06-13-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthpellets (Post 6818504)
in case you want to track what is believed to be Larry Scott's plane, here's the flight tracker from Austin to KC.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N228PK

Was in Salina on June 3. KSU to the Pac X!

Pablo 06-13-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6818528)
It wouldn't surprise me if you and KnowMo were editors of The Sporting News.

KnowMo, Wickedson, and RustShack should all create a new sports journal:

Totally unbiased sports report on the Greatest NFL and NCAA programs

Mr. Laz 06-13-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818332)
Hatch is a good chip to have lying around then.

anything you can hang on to keep KU from being selected

RustShack 06-13-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6818524)
I believe Sporting News picked Kansas to finish 2nd in the Big 12 North after Nebraska.

Is that possible when their team is a lot worse than it was last year?

Bambi 06-13-2010 06:10 PM

Dude, ya'll... it's the sporting news. Not me.

They've got a pretty decent schedule though and all their OL returning.

007 06-13-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6818471)
It ain't going to be with KSU or MU.

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 6818473)
:KU:

I know. I was trying to be nice to the other schools though.

WilliamTheIrish 06-13-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6818540)
anything you can hang on to keep KU from being selected

Laz, you really are a smarmy little twit.

Frazod 06-13-2010 06:11 PM

Hopefully A&M goes to the SEC and that will be the straw that broke the Big XII's back.

007 06-13-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6818483)
For the record, as a HOT CHEERLEADERS fan. Pac-10 is the most attractive option out of anything.

worthless without pics.


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