i imagine Brett is just going work with the players for awhile and then give feedback on their mental approach and attitudes.


I wouldn't be surprised if he was replaced before the season was even over

I don't doubt that at all. I think the whole thing is Brett to send a message to this team that they are not a group of HoF'ers no matter how much Ned sucks their cock. And that also they are not a bunch of little ****ing kids to be treated soft so as not to hurt their feelings.


Plus I think Brett being there will give Ned the backbone to do stuff he otherwise might not.

I should also toss in that I do believe that Brett was very close and loyal to the Old Man who started this team and I think part of why he is doing this is out of pride.

One inning into his new job, and George's kids are .000.

Do you think Ned will feel undermined by Brett a little bit? I mean, who instantly commands more respect? a guy who had 128 hits in his career or a 3000 hit HoFer?

I would say it is all about discipline. They spend time on their hand gestures, maybe they should spend that time watching video, or hitting off the tee.

I'm sure Ned was told by many that he's still drawing a check, so STFU and get GB coffee before he asks for it...

Must be nice to have a team that can hit.

The franchise doesn't take the game seriously, why should the fans?

He should feel undermined. He sucks at his job. Underminded, threatened, emasculated, ect.

Perez.

those hand gestures don't indicate anything about whether the players take the game seriously or not.


Billy Butler still being a fat **** is a bigger issue

Billy Butler can hit like shit this year and still get a pass from me. Not true about the rest of them.

Last I heard about DePodesta was he's in the Mets front office and really has no desire to be a GM again.
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If he hits like he did last season, I don't care if he's 300lbs.

There have been several fatties who can hit, through the years, why do you give a shit?

The hand gestures do not indicate that, you are correct. The past nearly three decades of shit baseball from this organization does.

Blaming the fans for nit picking at this point is, well, nit picking.

I've already said what I think about the Brett move.

But I'll confess, I was giddy like a little kid seeing Brett in the dugout last night.

Prince Fielder and his dad are both fat and can hit. Wish our fat guy had their power.

That's what DM is hoping for. All is well, because GB is in the dugout. I admit, it brings back great memories, but this is akin to throwing a dress on a pig - at the end of the day, it's still a pig.

DM bought some time with this move, but that's all he did. This is still going to end up being a train wreck disappointment of a season - AKA, business as usual for the Royals Organization

What if Brett legitamitely helps the hitters and we start seeing a significant increase in power. Do you give Moore credit or is he simply lucky? I realize this is unlikely unfortunately though.

I think realistically - George can do 3 things -

1. Command Respect
2. Get these guys up off their ass and working (Moose and Hoz)
3. Inject some freaking passion for the team and the city into these lifeless SOBs

Will that translate to improvement? Who knows. George admitted yesterday that he doesn't know.

Is it worth a shot? Sure. I mean, at this point - it can't hurt.

Is this the beginning of the end for Nedly? Absolutely.

Can you believe, after all this, the Royals are only 6.5 games behind? What a crappy division.

I can separate my love for Brett from my belief that this franchise needs a (another) reboot.

With a week of Minnesota and Houston coming up. Crazy things can happen in baseball.

I know you can. I'm just blathering right now - AKA, business as usual for ChiTown.

I just got a little bit excited. :banghead:

Minnesota coming to KC doesn't relieve my angst at all. HOU.....we better sweep those MF'rs

Knowing the Royals we will sweep Texas and Detroit, then get our shit pushed in by Houston again.

:cuss:

Because that worked so well last time.

St. Louis take on Brett joining up:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...3838cfc77.html

Also, cool picture from the TV broadcast last night, lightning strikes the Arch in St. Louis. ooooooo.....

i think Brett is there to evaluate the clubhouse and to a certain extent Yost

Don't be silly. Detroit is on pace to win 92 and Cleveland 89. They are doing just fine.


The fact we are "only" 6.5 back is due to being only 1/3 the way in. We are on pace to finish over 20 back o Detroit. Don't be foolish.

Moral victories. We're used to being 20 back at this point, already.

Sadily, not really. we were in about the same place last year at this time

There are currently 9 teams that are more than 6.5 games back in their respective divisions, so 6.5 is really not too shabby considering how terrible they've been the last few weeks.

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Have you guys been to this site?

http://www.royaleswithcheese.com/

Back when I was blogging the Royals a few years ago, I used to trade links with this site. It's pretty damn funny. Haven't checked it out for awhile.

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No game thread?

Cool story in the St. Louis Post Dispatch about how the umps decided to let the game continue last night:
http://tinyurl.com/lwcbc8x

You'll be on suicide watch after reading this:

http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2013/...is-happen.html

Grim outlook. Depressing.

That was a helluva read. Thanks for posting.

Rany needs an editor. He always has great info. He just takes way too long to lay it out. My rant today is on the Royals playing Garth Brooks "I've Got Friends In Low Places" every home game. It pisses me off. You want your team to celebrate low places? Your team just dropped from first to the cellar in less than one month you ****ing morons. YOU ARE CONSTANTLY IN A LOW PLACE. Why do we have to celebrate it in song? If anything, I would play that goddamn clip EVERY INNING until they get out of last. I'd play it on a loop in the locker room. I'd play it on the plane during road trips. I'd make every player SING the goddamn song in the on-deck circle. I'd want to make this team hate that ****ing song so much that they'd do ANYTHING to stay out of last place. And the Royals PR wanks allowing that to be played just shows how clueless they are. I had a St. Louis buddy of mine come in last Monday. He said "That Garth Brooks song, it's like your fans have Stockholm Syndrome." Yeah, no shit. We embrace the suck. STOP GARTH BROOKS AND STOP IT NOW.

That's my rant for today.

Good rant. Ever been to Bentonville?

I've been there many times. My Mom lives in Arkansas. I've burned up US 71 Highway (Now I-49) dozens of times. Been to the Wal-Mart Museum, then spent the next few hours steeped in self-loathing for spending time and money to visit THE FREAKING WAL-MART MUSEUM. I hate my life as a Royals fan.

“@DurhamBulls: Wil Myers triples in the 4th, and he's now a just a double shy of the cycle. Bulls 7, Srant'n 1”Wil Myers is a STUD!!!

If they made Moose sit for a few days with a mystery quad injury, maybe they can sit Frenchy for a couple weeks with "restless bat syndrome." Or maybe we can put a hit out on his grandma, and he can go on bereavement leave for a week.

If Glass can blame Dayton, then Dayton will just blame Frenchy and others. Reality: Everyone is to blame.

No, Dayton cannot blame Frenchy and others because Dayton ****ing Moore is the reason why these suck shit players are on the team.

As I've been saying for, literally, years, DM is one stupid mother****er and has no business being the GM of a professional team.

This!!!

Who hired him?

How is Moose "young"? He is in his 3rd year and turns 25 in September. In Brett's third year he won a batting title (.333) at age 23.


Yes one is a HOFer and one is a smelly turd. I get that. Just pointing out its nothing to do with age.

Luke Hochevar

RE-signed 1 yr $7M



That pretty much sums up how I feel about Dayton Moore. You know he can't be a starter in this league. So a move to the pen is really the only option, yet you can't stick him in there when the game is on the line either, and with our pathetic offense/lack of run support, pretty much every game we've been in has been on the line. So he can only pitch when we're up by a lot (4+ runs) and there's no reason left to keep the SP in the game, or when the game is out of reach and he's in there for garbage duty.

Yup...$7M for that guy....when we could have just let him walk. I would have paid him half of that just to go away forever.

I thought he was making 4.5mil?

7 mil?

Yordano Ventura has been promoted from AA to AAA

He is. Consider the source.

He's ready. Last 10 games:

52 2/3 innings
69 K
20 BB (most troubling thing with him - must cut his walk rate to pitch deeper)
34 H

2.22 ERA
1.03 WHIP
11.8 K:9
3.5 K:BB

It appears his arm is so elite, even the Royals poor, cookie-cutter minor league system hasn't been able to ruin it.

Wade Davis better start performing soon, or he's going to find himself back in the bullpen.

The Royals have $12 mill total tied in up Hoch and Frenchy this year. Ouch. $7.5 for Frenchy, $4.5 for Hoch.

Brought this up in the other thread but where the **** is Sal Perez?

Bereavement leave for his grandmother, I heard he'll be back for tomorrow's game.

Hochevar: $4.5 million
Francoeur: $6.5 million
Chris Getz: $1 million

Together, they make the same amount as Ervin Santana.

I won't criticize signing Frenchy in the first place, because they needed a RF and he looked like a decent stopgap, even at that salary. Refusing to cut bait with him at any point (and letting him influence the decision to dump Seitzer) is a huge mistake and indicative of the extreme loyalty Dayton has (and is held back by). Still would have been better if year 2 had been a team option (even though we know Dayton was going to pick that up regardless).

Bruce Chen is making $4.5 million, but I'm not going to complain about that. He's worth it, and probably should be starting instead of Wade Davis at this point.

ETA on Ventura's TJ surgery: Spring 2014

Wherever he is, I doubt he's walking much.

No, it will happen midseason. That's the way these things go for the Royals.

JJ Cooper tweeted a bit last night about the Royals' cookie cutter approach to SPs. Trying to rubber stamp that fastball/curveball/changeup/clean mechanics look.

I think that's why guys like Crow and now - apparently - Zimmer have struggled with deception so much. Both have great stuff, throw hard, have GREAT secondary pitches (not exaggerating - Zimmer's curve and Crow's slider were both PLUS major league pitches when they were drafted) and K rates, but get hit so often.

This organization is clearly behind the times when it comes to the way it develops its players. Which really shouldn't surprise me, considering that they're behind the times on everything else.

I think they do a good job identifying talent and scouting. But the development guys have failed, en masse.

What it creates? Minor league prospects that scouts love, but who have trouble translating their tools to MLB success.

They "cleaned up" Tim Collins, and he's gone from nearly unhittable to average. Part of his success was the unorthodox nature of his mechanics; he hid the ball incredibly well before they changed him.

edit: so what I wrote above was my perception of his performance so far this year, but looking at the numbers......he's been about the same as usual. One noticeable difference is his K rate, which I'd still argue has dropped because he's lost some deception.

There's irony, too, in the "clean mechanics" approach not helping prevent Tommy John surgery in guys like Duffy and Lamb.

Part of the issue with Collins is that Ned Yost doesn't know how to use him.

Yost looks at him and sees a LHP with good stuff. What he doesn't see is that Collins is more effective against RHPs in his career than against LHPs. Better strikeout rate, fewer walks, better BAA, lower OPS.

Collins DID have some mechanical issues that needed work. THe extreme leg kick made it hard for him to repeat mechanics. They managed to reduce it without reducing his deception.

I know Eiland isn't against stuff like that. Look at the slight trunk rotation he had guthrie adopt when he got here, which increased his deception factor.

And organizationally, Zack Greinke adopted the same thing (on his own, I assume) shortly before he took off as a strikeout pitcher.

Yes. Those guys were probably destined for TJ regardless of what the Royals did... but both are more natural slider throwers, IMO. Sometimes, an arm that can take throwing sliders can't take throwing curveballs (And vice versa). That's why cookie cutter is bad...

Dayton spent $30 million buying the top 3 o his rotation from others. Wow what a talented scout he must be to do that!!!! If he hadn't they would probably be headed for 95 losses again since he developed nobody on his own.


But he did buy pitching. If only Baird was allowed to cover his failures like Dayton is.

Can you please elaborate a little further on this? First I've heard of it

Just eight clubs have failed to make the playoffs since he was hired in May 2006, and the Royals are the lone team in the group that hasn’t made a GM change.

If Kansas City fails to advance to the postseason in 2013, Moore will have one of the five longest GM tenures without a playoff appearance in the last two decades. Former Royals GM Herk Robinson leads that list with nine playoff-less seasons.


http://www.baseballamerica.com/minor...ospects-14339/

I still think Baird was a decent baseball man.

Smarter people than David Glass have trusted him. Glass just gave him absolutely no chance to succeed.

It's looking now like that's precisely the case.

I threw in the towel last week. I'm sure I will be waiting until hell freezes over, but I won't get back to being the same fan I used to be until the Glass Family sells the Franchise to an Owner that actually gives a flip about winning.

It sucks. I have 2 Son's that have NO INTEREST in the Royals. NONE. I have tried to get them into this team, but they've been an absolute joke their entire lives. Makes me sick to think that I couldn't find a shred of a silver lining for them to hang on to. :deevee:

Did not know Francoeur helped get Seitzer fired. Is this true?

It's based off of radio interviews with Seitzer and Moore right after they fired him.

Moore cited Seitzer's inability to get Hosmer and Francoeur going as reasons for the move.

Seitzer also provided some hilarious insight on "Team leader" Jeff Francoeur throwing him and Billy Butler under the bus.