Dude's 31 and wants out bad. Redskins suck. 2nd round pick?

We really can't send any 1-3rd round picks away anymore. We're going to need to re-stock and grow our own.

Y'all need to get on board with that.

Agreed

It’ll take a borderline elite player to justify giving up a day 2 pick.

Hopkins did essentially nothing against Ware; most of his yards (a mere 55) were underneath catch and runs off isolating LBers.

Ware's playing very well. And we're seeing growth over where he was last year. That's an excellent sign for sustainability.

CB isn't our problem right now.

Veach fired his best bullet(s) on the Clark trade. And now with the lack of cost controlled players on the roster with significant upside due to trades and the horrific 2018 draft, he can't really afford to keep torching day 1 or 2 capital.

So yeah, they probably aren't making a significant move. Nor should they. The problem is that the big moves he made in the last 2 seasons are simply not working out.

This isn't an excuse - its a reckoning. Veach is looking at paying the piper for poor decisions made over the last 18 months right now.

Veach traded for himself? Now that's a trade master!

:harumph:

Some of the big guys on the roster are either hurt, or aren't playing well (maybe because they're hurt).

It's apparently a chiefs curse that when we pay big money for a guy he gets hurt pretty much immediately.

well, to be fair, we don't really know yet on a lot of the moves of the last year.

I'd agree that at this point, it would appear the 2018 draft was crap. Of course, Patrick is part of that, so you know.

Early returns on Clark are not good at the half-way mark of the season. Honey Badger was a good move; Okafor and Ogbah pretty good. Wilson not bad. Breeland and Claiborne looked like saavy pick-ups. This 2019 draft is looking pretty stellar.

So, again, not that I'd say he's been AWESOME, but I would say it's been a mixed bag. We have some holes (but everyone does in the salary cap era) and some things have not gone according to plan.

Regardless, I agree, we've shot our wad and will need to draft and develop now. If 2019's draft is an indication, I'm optimistic.

This is also why it's important to ****ing win when you have your chances. Injuries happen, every team has holes etc.

So much of this shit is luck.

I agree with Chris, DJ, and Pugs. We're not "just one player away", we have the roster today to make a serious SB run. If the D can continue to improve, we're OK. We practically gave 7 to GB with the McCoy fumble, had another 7 scored on us by a miracle/elite QB throw, and got torched for another 7 by a play we should have recognized. All that with an assistant HS coach running the offense.
Now if you want to make an upgrade with a 5-7 round pick(s), groovy, but not 1-3.

I honestly don't think there are any players worth losing draft capital over at this point. It is what it is. When we're healthy, we'll be good to go for the playoffs. Save your draft.

I'd be more interested in a late rounder for a guy they may have liked in the draft that they could develop or something.

But otherwise, probably keep your picks and hope some of these guys get healthy.

Just so ****ing tired of our bigger name dudes always being hurt. Jesus it seems like an every year thing.

Veach has done an excellent job with value moves this year. Hardman, Thornhill, Rankin and Saunders are all on rookie deals until at least the end of 2021. Ward has been a nice corner and Fenton (like Saunders) has shown well in a small sample size.

I would argue that Veach getting literally nothing but Nnandi from the 2018 draft is worse than the major FA splashes.

I like what Veach did this offseason aside from his big signings. Trying to get a bunch of cheap value players like Ogbah, D. Wilson and D. Lee along with the draft is what I’d like to see Veach do. Sure all of them won’t work out, but even having 1 or 2 guys working out for a cheap contract is crucial for us.