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tk13 05-27-2014 05:45 PM

50 Cent threw out the first pitch at the Mets game tonight. Sign him up to replace Ventura?

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KevB 05-27-2014 08:48 PM

As I watch the Royals flounder against an Astro team that is only playing 2 legitimate MLB starters, at home, I'm reminded that the Brewers once fired Yost because he wasn't the guy to lead a young team to the promised land.

At some point you have to make a change, and the manager is always the first to fall on the sword. You can't fire all the players, and GMDM will make a decision at some point to try to save his own job.

Sure-Oz 05-27-2014 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10654652)
As I watch the Royals flounder against an Astro team that is only playing 2 legitimate MLB starters, at home, I'm reminded that the Brewers once fired Yost because he wasn't the guy to lead a young team to the promised land.

At some point you have to make a change, and the manager is always the first to fall on the sword. You can't fire all the players, and GMDM will make a decision at some point to try to save his own job.

Yep....Rosenthal article today basically saying a change needs to be made

cmh6476 05-27-2014 08:53 PM

moose update?

Mama Hip Rockets 05-27-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 10654682)
moose update?

Hitting .176 in AAA.

Sure-Oz 05-27-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 10654682)
moose update?

Dallas McPherson

P-90Rex 05-27-2014 08:58 PM

Pretend for a second Moore finally does fire Yost...who should replace him? Who is available? And does anyone trust GMDM to make the right hire?

KevB 05-27-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-90Rex (Post 10654714)
Pretend for a second Moore finally does fire Yost...who should replace him? Who is available? And does anyone trust GMDM to make the right hire?

They'd probably just insert Wakamatsu

cmh6476 05-27-2014 09:06 PM

brad pitt? think we could bring him home?

Bowser 05-27-2014 09:22 PM

Chuck sums up how I feel about the 2014 Royals perfectly...

http://www.boredwrestlingfan.com/wp-...d-shake-o1.gif

Strongside 05-27-2014 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-90Rex (Post 10654714)
Pretend for a second Moore finally does fire Yost...who should replace him? Who is available? And does anyone trust GMDM to make the right hire?

I'd rather play out the rest of the year and fire them both. Dayton doesn't deserve to hire a 3rd manager. No way in hell.

Sure-Oz 05-27-2014 09:40 PM

@JoshVernier: #Royals Yost acknowledged they're not having "big league" ABs, swinging at too many 1st pitches & pitcher's pitches & not making adjustments

Sure-Oz 05-27-2014 09:40 PM

@JoshVernier: #Royals Yost was as animated/angry/honest as he's been all season about this offense.

C3HIEF3S 05-27-2014 09:43 PM

Welp, sorry fellas.

Strongside 05-27-2014 09:44 PM

Damn. Wish I would have watched Ned's presser. I bet he is feeling the heat. ****er.

Strongside 05-27-2014 09:50 PM

Twitter is calling for Hosmer's demotion now.

Sure-Oz 05-27-2014 09:52 PM

@JoshVernier: #Royals Yost admitted he's "covered" (made excuses) for the offense in the past, when they've been owned by a mediocre pitcher.

BigCatDaddy 05-27-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10654944)
Twitter is calling for Hosmer's demotion now.

We are past pointing fingers at individual players. It's time to point fingers at the guy that assembled these pussys.

Sure-Oz 05-27-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10654944)
Twitter is calling for Hosmer's demotion now.

Rany is....I say do it. Send a message

Bowser 05-27-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10654944)
Twitter is calling for Hosmer's demotion now.

Send them all down, the entitled candy asses.

At this point, is it honestly a reach to say that the Omaha lineup could be any worse than the KC lineup?

Chiefs Pantalones 05-27-2014 10:08 PM

**** you, David Glass.

KCCHIEFS27 05-27-2014 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10654952)
@JoshVernier: #Royals Yost admitted he's "covered" (made excuses) for the offense in the past, when they've been owned by a mediocre pitcher.

No kidding? As if any competent fan/reporter couldn't see that going on? Again, I've said it once, I'll say it again. These yak-offs have played this ho hum approach for far too long the past 2-3 years. Give a crap during the first half of the season and you wouldn't have to string together false hope win streaks towards the end of the season.

DeezNutz 05-27-2014 10:17 PM

DM always said he had a 16-year plan, so I have no idea why people are trying to rush "the process."

Shogun 05-27-2014 10:47 PM

I'm pretty okay with trading anybody away at this point. This team is not going to go anywhere spectacular this season barring a miracle. I've seen a pretty good sample size of this team, this GROUP of guys to know that only a few of them have been playing at a major league level. Have not learned to take pitches, certain pitches, and its constant, such a breakdown in development. I feel like we should be listening on anybody. If we can ship Yost to the Wingnuts for a baseball then do that too.

Strongside 05-27-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10654982)
**** you, David Glass.

Glass has ponied up and done his part. He doesn't control the roster, he just signs the checks. Now the ball is in his court to kick GMDM and the loyalty brigade to the curb.

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-27-2014 11:07 PM

I'm not getting bent out of shape over this franchise anymore. That feeling has passed like a bad kidney stone.

SPchief 05-27-2014 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10653646)
Two critical facts:
He has owned the team for over 20 years.

I guess I'll point this out. Really? Are you this dumb?

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-28-2014 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10655059)
I guess I'll point this out. Really? Are you this dumb?

To be fair, he has owned the team technically for 14 years... however, after Mr. Kauffman passed he was the leader of the Board that ran the club as interim owners until he sold to himself....

Mama Hip Rockets 05-28-2014 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10654958)
Send them all down, the entitled candy asses.

At this point, is it honestly a reach to say that the Omaha lineup could be any worse than the KC lineup?

Yes, cause Moustakas is in the Omaha lineup.

ChiTown 05-28-2014 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10655059)
I guess I'll point this out. Really? Are you this dumb?

Well, come on. He's somewhat right. He's been the Chairman and CEO since 1993. He became sole owner in 2000, but this team has been under his leadership since then (over 20 years). So, let's not act like what he said is just monumentally reeruned.

Kidd Lex 05-28-2014 07:09 AM

This is what happens when a Team ignores the tend in baseball towards valuing ops and obp. Gmdm either refuses or isn't smart enough to make the change to modern baseball analytics thereby overvaluing his sense of a players "skills" through the eye test, stats of yesteryear, or grit.

This has been pointed out by Rany for years now. I'd rather have the dermatologist extraordinaire running this team through science and numbers than GMDM and his crew of outdated clowns.

FringeNC 05-28-2014 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 10655174)
This is what happens when a Team ignores the tend in baseball towards valuing ops and obp. Gmdm either refuses or isn't smart enough to make the change to modern baseball analytics thereby overvaluing his sense of a players "skills" through the eye test, stats of yesteryear, or grit.

This has been pointed out by Rany for years now. I'd rather have the dermatologist extraordinaire running this team through science and numbers than GMDM and his crew of outdated clowns.

Adding to that, I think if these guys had come up through a system that stressed strike zone management, they'd be much better hitters.

ChiTown 05-28-2014 07:52 AM

Nelson Cruz vs the Royals......Who hits more HR's this season?

Current Tally:
Nelson Cruz: 17

KC Bitch Tits: 20

Should be a battle to the end.

Three7s 05-28-2014 08:19 AM

I believe it's been a week and a half since our last homer, correct?

That's pretty pathetic.

KCUnited 05-28-2014 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10655249)
I believe it's been a week and a half since our last homer, correct?

That's pretty pathetic.

8 games.

TEX 05-28-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10654652)
As I watch the Royals flounder against an Astro team that is only playing 2 legitimate MLB starters, at home, I'm reminded that the Brewers once fired Yost because he wasn't the guy to lead a young team to the promised land.

At some point you have to make a change, and the manager is always the first to fall on the sword. You can't fire all the players, and GMDM will make a decision at some point to try to save his own job.

Hey now, don't be dissing my Stros. We sometimes have 3 legitimate MLB STARTERS! LMAO

gblowfish 05-28-2014 09:32 AM

Story from JoPoz about how Royals are the hardest team in all major sports to love:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-team-to-love/

Three7s 05-28-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10655350)
Story from JoPoz about how Royals are the hardest team in all major sports to love:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-team-to-love/

He's getting hammered on it in the comments. His article spewed bias.

Deberg_1990 05-28-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10655381)
He's getting hammered on it in the comments. His article spewed bias.

Bias over who's the worst Pro Sports franchise?

LOL
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stonedstooge 05-28-2014 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10655381)
He's getting hammered on it in the comments. His article spewed bias.

I AGREE IT'S BIASED. WHERE"S THE CHEAPS ON THAT LIST

gblowfish 05-28-2014 10:24 AM

The Royals ARE the most pathetic franchise in all major sports. And to prove it, they plan to go out and get swept by the worst team in baseball today.

petegz28 05-28-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10655435)
The Royals ARE the most pathetic franchise in all major sports. And to prove it, they plan to go out and get swept by the worst team in baseball today.

"Plan"? "Plan"?

Ned Yost don't got no "plan". He said so himself last week.

1moreTRich 05-28-2014 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10655009)
I'm pretty okay with trading anybody away at this point. This team is not going to go anywhere spectacular this season barring a miracle. I've seen a pretty good sample size of this team, this GROUP of guys to know that only a few of them have been playing at a major league level. Have not learned to take pitches, certain pitches, and its constant, such a breakdown in development. I feel like we should be listening on anybody. If we can ship Yost to the Wingnuts for a baseball then do that too.

You leave my Wingnuts alone. They are my only outlet for enjoyable baseball to watch being that they can actually hit the ball and win games.

C3HIEF3S 05-28-2014 10:44 AM

8th times a charm

TEX 05-28-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10655435)
The Royals ARE the most pathetic franchise in all major sports. And to prove it, they plan to go out and get swept by the worst team in baseball today.

By the WORST team the past 3 seasons...

BlackHelicopters 05-28-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10655435)
The Royals ARE the most pathetic franchise in all major sports. And to prove it, they plan to go out and get swept by the worst team in baseball today.

Team has no heart.

ChiefsCountry 05-28-2014 11:11 AM

The lack of home runs isn't what really concerns me, its the lack of hits with RISP. I don't know how many times we have had baserunners and couldn't get them in. This team is a pretty good doubles hitting team and has great speed. Infante being out has hurt, the second base hole is just a black hole without him. Combine that with third base black hole and that's really bad offense.

siberian khatru 05-28-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10655535)
The lack of home runs isn't what really concerns me, its the lack of hits with RISP. I don't know how many times we have had baserunners and couldn't get them in. This team is a pretty good doubles hitting team and has great speed. Infante being out has hurt, the second base hole is just a black hole without him. Combine that with third base black hole and that's really bad offense.

It should concern you, because the total is unacceptably low. Nobody's saying they should be a power team, but they are less than half the league average (20 vs. 47). That's just way too few. That makes runs too hard to come by for a team already struggling to amass baserunners (see below), and it also means opposing pitchers don't have to worry about making mistakes in the strike zone, because those balls are going to stay in the park.

(BTW, this SHOULD be a good doubles hitting team, but so far this year they are just league average in that department.)

As for RISP, it's bad but really no different then their hitting without RISP:

Overall batting: .252/.306/.348
RISP: .241/.308/.346

Indeed, the problem is they don't have enough baserunners, period. They are 14th in the AL in OBP, again far below the league average. So even if they were hitting better with RISP, there would be few opportunities to do so.

Prison Bitch 05-28-2014 12:06 PM

An AL general manager (and staff) actually tried to create an offense without anyone who walks + anyone with power. He must be insane to think that would work.

siberian khatru 05-28-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10655707)
An AL general manager (and staff) actually tried to create an offense without anyone who walks + anyone with power. He must be insane to think that would work.

Contact and speed! /1976

ChiefsCountry 05-28-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10655647)
It should concern you, because the total is unacceptably low. Nobody's saying they should be a power team, but they are less than half the league average (20 vs. 47). That's just way too few. That makes runs too hard to come by for a team already struggling to amass baserunners (see below), and it also means opposing pitchers don't have to worry about making mistakes in the strike zone, because those balls are going to stay in the park.

The reason power doesn't concern me is because there was only 3 players I expected to have any power on this team and one of them is in Omaha right now. Hosmer and Butler sucking is what concerns me. The rest of them are pretty much expected.

FringeNC 05-28-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10655712)
Contact and speed! /1976

We were 4th in the AL in OPS that year.

siberian khatru 05-28-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10655785)
We were 4th in the AL in OPS that year.

Yes, because it was a different environment. That was the point. Baseball of the 2000s is different than the game of the 1970s. Pitching is different, ballparks are different, philosophies are different.

FringeNC 05-28-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10655809)
Yes, because it was a different environment. That was the point. Baseball of the 2000s is different than the game of the 1970s. Pitching is different, ballparks are different, philosophies are different.

Right, right. Just pointing out that even the quintessential team of the 1970s -- the Royals -- they weren't winning with speed, defense, and pitching alone.

siberian khatru 05-28-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10655819)
Right, right. Just pointing out that even the quintessential team of the 1970s -- the Royals -- they weren't winning with speed, defense, and pitching alone.

:thumb:

siberian khatru 05-28-2014 12:57 PM

Although Fringe, that 76 Royals team hit only 65 HRs ... about what this team is on pace to hit. :grr:

But that 76 team also led the league in doubles and triples.

This year's Royals would be better if they led the league in doubles and triples, instead of just being average. But I still think in this environment you're severely handicapping yourself with so few homers. The league average for HRs in 1976 was only 94. SEVEN teams hit fewer than 100 homers.

Three7s 05-28-2014 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10655388)
Bias over who's the worst Pro Sports franchise?

LOL
Posted via Mobile Device

Not really over this franchise, but some of the others he mentioned.

ChiTown 05-28-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10655847)
Although Fringe, that 76 Royals team hit only 65 HRs ... about what this team is on pace to hit. :grr:

But that 76 team also led the league in doubles and triples.

This year's Royals would be better if they led the league in doubles and triples, instead of just being average. But I still think in this environment you're severely handicapping yourself with so few homers. The league average for HRs in 1976 was only 94. SEVEN teams hit fewer than 100 homers.

That '76 team was also very fast, efficient team that could get around the base paths (finished 2nd in the AL in SB's). They also knew how to hit in key situations, as they led the AL in Sac Flies.

WhawhaWhat 05-28-2014 02:29 PM

Haven't been watching or listening to the game today but this is about all I need to know.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nori Aoki just swung and missed at a pitch. The problem was the pitch hit him in his left shoulder. He also fell down.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/471742706671042560">May 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Louis Coleman hit George Springer with a pitch. Because Springer did not swing at it, he was able to take first base.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/471746639921573889">May 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Jerm 05-28-2014 02:33 PM

It's time.....

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...2/everyone.gif

Deberg_1990 05-28-2014 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10655809)
Yes, because it was a different environment. That was the point. Baseball of the 2000s is different than the game of the 1970s. Pitching is different, ballparks are different, philosophies are different.

Heh, I've mentioned this before half heartedly, but this team would have benefited from the 90s K fences pulled in era. Or maybe not with Vargas......
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lewdog 05-28-2014 06:24 PM

We are at the ****ing embarrassment stage. I can't defend a single one of them right now. Not one hitter looks even close to figuring it out.

okcchief 05-28-2014 06:42 PM

Again. I think you have to hire a new GM and let him bring in his people from top to bottom. Every step of the Org needs to change. Firing Yost isn't enough IMO.

duncan_idaho 05-28-2014 06:43 PM

Heard some really nasty things about Grifol over the weekend... from a source inside the front office.

Basically, was told Grifol is a politician who says all the right things and knows how to play old school baseball guys who can't see any other type of game (like Dayton Moore, Ned Yost and Jack Z in Seattle) like a fiddle... but is not really qualified to be an MLB hitting coach, doesn't put in much work, and never talks about approach (focuses only on swing).

Oh, and he's two faced and willing to stab guys in the back at the drop of a hat. Stellar (and shocking, considering his rep around baseball).

Prison Bitch 05-28-2014 06:56 PM

If any (much less all) of that is true Duncan, that's still not on Grifol. That's on the man who hired him.

Bowser 05-28-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10656498)
Heard some really nasty things about Grifol over the weekend... from a source inside the front office.

Basically, was told Grifol is a politician who says all the right things and knows how to play old school baseball guys who can't see any other type of game (like Dayton Moore, Ned Yost and Jack Z in Seattle) like a fiddle... but is not really qualified to be an MLB hitting coach, doesn't put in much work, and never talks about approach (focuses only on swing).

Oh, and he's two faced and willing to stab guys in the back at the drop of a hat. Stellar (and shocking, considering his rep around baseball).

Grifol should be the first to go, and that's without factoring in what you've just said. How in the hell has he held on to his job? He must have blackmailed George Brett to vouch for him somehow.

ChiefsCountry 05-28-2014 06:59 PM

The Dayton Moore Replacement List

Thad Levine - Assistant General Manager, Texas Rangers

Michael Girsch - Assistant General Manager, St. Louis Cardinals

David Forst - Assistant General Manager, Oakland A's

duncan_idaho 05-28-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10656512)
If any (much less all) of that is true Duncan, that's still not on Grifol. That's on the man who hired him.

I had two reactions:

1) Disappointment. I had heard good things about Grifol from a lot of guys (not just the KC broadcast, either).

2) Resignation. Just another sign of Dayton Moore's struggle to hire good people. Really seems to get the wool pulled over his eyes quite often and easily.

duncan_idaho 05-28-2014 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10656513)
Grifol should be the first to go, and that's without factoring in what you've just said. How in the hell has he held on to his job? He must have blackmailed George Brett to vouch for him somehow.

Politician who is really good at playing people, from what I was told.

ChiefsCountry 05-28-2014 07:02 PM

Yost really isn't that bad of a manager. He is pretty much league average. That being said every MLB hates their manager and questions every move they make. I'm lucky enough I guess to get hear enough talk from across the state. Fan base hated LaRussa every thing he did was wrong all the time. Same thing with Matheny now. Outside of pro basketball its the most Jimmy and Joe sport, than Xs and Os. If we replace it need to be from top down. General Manager is the more important position in baseball.

siberian khatru 05-28-2014 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10656519)
The Dayton Moore Replacement List

Thad Levine - Assistant General Manager, Texas Rangers

Michael Girsch - Assistant General Manager, St. Louis Cardinals

David Forst - Assistant General Manager, Oakland A's

Probably more like Ed Wade, Chuck LaMar or Jim Bowden

KevB 05-28-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10656494)
Again. I think you have to hire a new GM and let him bring in his people from top to bottom. Every step of the Org needs to change. Firing Yost isn't enough IMO.

I agree, but I don't know that Glass has the patience for yet another rebuild. Despite our collective frustration, we're still better than we were 8 years ago. That shouldn't be enough, but starting all over has to be daunting for Glass.

KevB 05-28-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10656519)
The Dayton Moore Replacement List

Thad Levine - Assistant General Manager, Texas Rangers

Michael Girsch - Assistant General Manager, St. Louis Cardinals

David Forst - Assistant General Manager, Oakland A's

I'm all for poaching from either the A's or Cardinals.

duncan_idaho 05-28-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10656526)
Yost really isn't that bad of a manager. He is pretty much league average. That being said every MLB hates their manager and questions every move they make. I'm lucky enough I guess to get hear enough talk from across the state. Fan base hated LaRussa every thing he did was wrong all the time. Same thing with Matheny now. Outside of pro basketball its the most Jimmy and Joe sport, than Xs and Os. If we replace it need to be from top down. General Manager is the more important position in baseball.

As they talked about on Hardball Sports... the problem with Yost is not one specific strategic decision... it's that he's so wishy-washy and changes tactics so often.

It's the equivalent of a blackjack player who decides on each hand whether to hit on 16 or not, rather than having a plan and sticking to it.

duncan_idaho 05-28-2014 07:10 PM

Also... who knows what will work in terms of poaching another assistant GM...

Short of luring Beane or Friedman away from their respective locales, I wouldn't be confident in anything working until I saw it working...

And I will also say... keep the international scouts in place. That's the one area of the organization that really seems to be pulling its weight of late.

KevB 05-28-2014 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10656538)
As they talked about on Hardball Sports... the problem with Yost is not one specific strategic decision... it's that he's so wishy-washy and changes tactics so often.

It's the equivalent of a blackjack player who decides on each hand whether to hit on 16 or not, rather than having a plan and sticking to it.

Course I think at this point we all realize we're talking about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as it relates to Yost's decisions. Our problems are systemic and already embedded by the time they get to Yost on the big club.

ChiefsCountry 05-28-2014 07:28 PM

The Royals need to find their Carl Peterson/Marty Schottenheimer combo. This team has the feel of the 1986 Chiefs or so. Talent is in place but need the right leadership to take them to the playoffs.

Nightfyre 05-28-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10655059)
I guess I'll point this out. Really? Are you this dumb?

You really want to bring me down by playing semantics, eh?

Sure-Oz 05-28-2014 08:47 PM

Would a real good gm candidate want to come here..? Grifol was all pregame prep last season ...I think he sucks

gblowfish 05-28-2014 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10656570)
The Royals need to find their Carl Peterson/Marty Schottenheimer combo. This team has the feel of the 1986 Chiefs or so. Talent is in place but need the right leadership to take them to the playoffs.

Hey, neither Carl or Marty are doing that much right now. Put Carl in the GM's office, put Marty in the dugout. What could happen?


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