Same. MU, A&M leaving doesn't change that. When Texas and OU announce they are leaving is when I begin to get envious/jealous/desperate.

I want no part of the SEC. We'd get killed.

But, but, but 12 million dollars more.


Ignoring the need to spend another 30 million just to be middle of the pack

SEC East:

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee

Missouri would be the 7th team, and we might be better than any team in that division right now.

I honestly don't give a shit about the money. More money just means that the university has to spend more keep up in the arms race that is college athletics. It has very little to do with the product on the field.

Not true.

More money = ostensibly better facilities = advantage in recruiting = better product on the field.

Which is why it's so nice to see donor funds having to be secured for all that crap. :grr:

I also think the money grab is being driven by the universities, and not so much by the athletic department. With the possibilities of lower amounts of research dollars, rising tuition costs and less attendance, they have to make up ground somehow.

Which makes sense. Could be difficult for a university to go hat in hand to state politicians crying about the need for more funding if they just turned down (in Mizzou's case) the potential for $12 million more per year.

State appropriations are decreasing and significantly so in some cases. However, tuition is always rising and economic downturns result in high enrollment.

Most large institutions are far less dependent on state appropriations, but the decrease greatly affects the state regional university.

Anyway, this is all a long way of saying that the increased revenue will basically be a boon only for the athletic department, since the likes of $12M isn't shit when it comes to the operating budget of a place like Mizzou.

Fed. grants, private donations, state appropriations, and tuition dollars are driving research funding.

LMAO

If I'm UT I take the same stance. aTeamInsecure wanted out. Why would UT indulge that request?

That's a really good point. When you think about it, what good has all that extra money done for SEC schools in terms of its product on the field? Other than 5 straight national championships, I mean.

As someone else pointed out, the football program of the Pinkel era would walk into that conference a middle of the road team. Build from there.

Personally I think it would be more interesting to be a middle of the road team in the SEC, watching your team week to week playing games in storied places against big teams. It would be fun. A road game against LSU or Georgia would be fun to watch. Florida or Auburn coming to Columbia would be fun. It would give an interesting conference schedule every year. The conference slate of the Big 12 is not that interesting, sorry to say.

And are there many fun places to go? Austin for sure, but anyplace else? Lubbock? Waco? Ames, Iowa? Manhattan? Not that Columbia is great but still... Zzz.

I think being average in the SEC would be fun to watch right away, with a view to the future that looks good.

McMurphyCBS Brett McMurphy
by UCFSports
Big East commish John Marinatto will hold Tuesday media teleconference to discuss league matters

Is this PowerMizzou premium info? Cause I keep hearing it from you DeArmond disciples. so I'll just say this one more time:

No KSU fan on this board, nor any that I know irl, care if you stay or go. You, like your UP, BOC and most women I know, just can't seem to decide if you'll be beholden to the mysterious overlord in burnt orange or the mysterious overlords in Crimson.

I just hope that you personally have a chance togrow up to be the man your mother was.

Why would A&M leaving the conference cause the game to end though? UT is just being insecure and petty.

UCFSports Brandon Helwig
Tuesday's suddenly scheduled media teleconference indicates the Big East is looking to strike quick. #UCF #Houston #SMU #Boise #Navy #AFA

Oh I suppose we could both pretend that aTm didn't want out and pretend that they really didnt want to get away from UT or the Big IIX, but why would we both lie about that?

They wanted out. They got out. Why indulge their "pretty please? .. Honey? Please, please please let us play again" request?

I could use one of your scorned woman analogies and apply it to aTm but they're ridiculous and stupid, like aTm's begging request. So I won't bother with that.

Supposedly, WVU is willing to sign on for increased exit fees. Guess they aren't moving this year. Good chance that there is some kind of out if they lose the automatic bid (just my speculation).

Here's the link to the WVU story... no idea how credible that outlet is.

If West Virginia stays put and Louisville ends up taking the Big 12-4+2 to 10, the TV deal survives the next five-six years, IMO.

Gotta think the Big 12-4+2 would need to get BYU and someone else on board to get to 12 to be really competitive in the next TV deal.

Of course A&M wanted out of the Big Leftover conference, which is why they left.

Again - why should that end the UT-A&M annual rivalry game? Are you under the impression that annual rivalry games are never between non-conference schools?

I would actually use my pimp-hoe analogy here instead of a scorned woman one. The remaining hoes are going to get an extra beating now that the UT's top hoe left them.

Pretty obvious that Louisville is going to be the one to replace Mizzou now.

I guess all the WVU slurpers will now need some time to change their argument to fit Louisville. LMAO

No worries here, Stewie has assured me the new Tier 1 deal will surpass the SEC's.

wow, your posts are tough to take.

Imagine what you would be like if your school ever actually won anything.

:shake:

UCF is heading to the Big East girls.

Venom.

BALLSACK!

Examples? Because I could swear it's always been either,or/both.

Retread.

By all means indulge in your analogy. God knows how incredibly interesting they are to read.

Really? Are you serious? Mizzou better than South Carolina? ROFL

I saw 3 schools on that list before I got to SC. lol

Yeah, that's one thing I don't get.

Will the Big 12's new tier 1 deal surpass what the SEC currently gets when it is renegotiated?

Yeah, it probably will.

But to assume that means it will be better than the new deal the SEC negotiates for those same rights, the next time the SEC does it, is just foolish.

The SEC has added almost 60 percent of its current footprint without hurting the brand at all in football. It has an out and will be able to re-negotiate its tier 1 deal soon, too.

If there's one thing to know about college sports, it's that Mike Slive is the big kid on the block. He wouldn't expand this freshly into a Tier 1 deal unless he was confident he could renegotiate.

Considering they have no QB and their star player is done for the year. Its very possible to say Mizzou is better.

Must be, since you keep posting and responding to them.

I guess I can take your non-answer to my previous question as a sign you are bowing out of this conversation?

I have a strange feeling that you will be there to rub ku's feet and tell them it's all good when they end the Border War.

Never mind - whenever Wickedson logs on Kansas IQs immediately drop by about 50 points. It's really quite amazing to watch. He's like the pied piper of butthurt idiocy.

Oh ****. You got me there easy. I responded to one of your Rip Van Winkle coma inducing posts with a non answer. How terrible. I'd have to refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. You could market your posts to a hospital as as a highly-effective alternative to Propathol.

Yea I'll be here to talk all KU fans off the roof when they don't play MU in the ... The game to teams play that nobody really cares about except those two teams game.

South Carolina just lost their QB and their Heisman-candidate RB for the season. They are done.

Care to remind me what the highest rated regular season game in college football history is?

Can you do it with a pimp/ ho analogy?

Actually the entire exchange started with you giving UT a reach-around for ending the A&M series. I guess KSU fans feel it is their womanly duty to defend their conference overlords at every turn no matter how sad and transparent it gets.

UT is a hilarious little bitch for ending the A&M series simply because A&M moved on to a better home - the exact same fucking thing UT tried to do until Bevo Network was determined to be a no go (weird, wonder why?).

But the only thing more hilarious is watching non UT fans scramble to defend them.

Gary Pinkel has never beaten Texas? No wonder he wants to high tail it out.

JumpOffThe****ingRoof is this year's StormThe****ingCourt

Yep. Need to get to a weaker conference.

Wow. If true, that's pathetic.

Yup, get away from all the recruiting disadvantages they currently have.

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
by slmandel
BREAKING: Missouri's application to the SEC is "inevitable and imminent." nyti.ms/pYNXem

mufan
NYT was wrong about everything with ATM
/mu fan

of course it doesn't take a genius to figure out that with 3 days of BOC meetings this week, it's a good week to take a shot in the dark at "breaking the story"

Actually I thought Thamel was one of the first people to report the A&M thing was about to go down. My memory might be scrambled though.

Interesting thought.

:BLVD:

UCF singlehandedly saving the Big East from losing a BCS bid is far bigger business than any of this other Big 12-1 maybe minus 2 stuff.

The ****?

We'll beat them this year.

:thumb:

Someone posted that they had to leave by Nov. 1 for the most favorable situation in terms of any exit penalty, and if they wanted to start in the SEC next year.. am I remembering that correctly?

Story:

OK I think we can officially shut this thread down now. Realignment God has spoken.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1280401

PBJ

Clay Travis was stating December 1st

From Orangebloods:

Missouri appears to have finally made up its mind to leave the Big 12 and join the SEC, three sources close to the situation told Orangebloods.com.

The process is expected to begin Thursday or Friday, when Missouri's board of curators is scheduled to meet in Kansas City, the sources said.

Interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas had indicated last week that Missouri was likely to be a member of the Big 12 in 2012-13 no matter what it decided. But sources said Missouri may try to become a member of the SEC in 2012-13.

The deadline for football scheduling in the 2012-13 school year is fast approaching, so Missouri's application could fit right under that deadline, the sources said.

If Missouri leaves the Big 12, there are differing views about if the Big 12 should proceed as a 10-member or 12-member league. But it appears the leading candidates to replace Missouri are West Virginia, Louisville and possibly BYU, the sources said.

If the league were to expand to 12, it could be all three.

BYU was long considered a top candidate to join the Big 12, but sources said BYU lost interest when the Big 12 appeared to be destabilizing in early September.

Since the Big 12 has talked about granting Tier 1 and 2 TV rights to the conference, BYU has felt better about possibly joining the Big 12, sources said. Although, it's unclear where BYU would be on the list of replacements for Missouri, the sources said.

One source said the top choices to replace Missouri would still be West Virginia or Louisville if the league was to remain at 10 members.

It's been a strange journey for Missouri, whose chancellor, Brady Deaton, was the head of the Big 12 Board of Directors and worked hard to hold the Big 12 together after Oklahoma expressed an interest in exploring its conference options on Sept. 2.

But as Missouri's board of curators and others at MU became more enamored with the idea of joining the SEC, Deaton had to step down from his position as head of the five-member Big 12 expansion committee and as the head of the league's board of directors.

Missouri also played a role in realignment in 2010 as its Gov. Jay Nixon told the Associated Press the Tigers were probably a better fit in the Big Ten than in the Big 12. Those comments prompted a group of six schools in the Big 12 (Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado) to become targets of the Pac-12.

Nebraska ultimately got the Big Ten invitation, and Colorado left for the Pac-10.

Missouri would become the 14th member of the SEC, joining Texas A&M as members of the Big 12 to bolt for that league.

The SEC would be picking up its second American Association of Universities (AAU) member in Missouri (Texas A&M is the other). The AAU represents to top research universities in the country. Currently, only Florida and Vanderbilt are AAU members in the SEC.

As long as it appears the Big 12 will survive as a conference, it is unclear what legal threat the SEC may face from schools such as Baylor, Iowa State and Kansas.

But if Missouri was to leave the league, the conference realignment dominoes would begin falling again.

Stay tuned.

From PowerMizzou

Kietzman said that there has been absolutely no interest in Mizzou. None. Who are you going to believe, Kietzman or your lying eyes?

Kietzman actually said that with a straight face? I can't imagine what tomorrow's meltdown is going to be like....

Straight face and crooked teeth, yes. Many times...

West Virginia is such a weird fit. They're like 12 hours away from any other Big XII school. You almost have to try and bring in Louisville too you'd think. Of course BYU is probably even worse... everyone is about a 1000+ mile trip for them.

I think Louisville is the Big XII's number one choice. Not sure how they are going to get around the 27 month exit requirement for them though.

Louisville's in. I'd bet anything.

"NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT MIZZOU TO THE SEC!"

"THE DEARMONDS ARE MAKING THIS UP!"

He's now changed his argument to the Big 12 is awesome and Mizzou will never win a game in the SEC, and the KSU fans have followed like lemmings.

KSU fans don't listen....just you MU and KU dorks.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-utJc9IuWp...200/reerun.jpg

Durr...did you HEAR what Kietzman said today!?!#11

That's because you can't pick up a broadcast in Manhattan without a ham radio.

I'm sure 810 comes in just fine there.....we just know KK is a troll. Just like Jack Harry. And just like Keegan.

Kansas - I hope you guys end up in the PAC or the B1G; I'm fairly certain you will. KU will have options.

K-State - I'm really looking forward to you guys disappearing back into obscurity soon enough. Kietzmann alone has been enough for me to hope that a meteorite reduces Manhattan into a pile of smoldering ash but guys like Mikey make me hope that the meteorite is actually preceded by a strain of airborn ass cancer.

I really didn't think KK was a troll before the Mizzou to SEC story hit, but he has given Fescoe a run for his money with his ridiculous on-air breakdowns the last month or so.

Jesus Christ LMAO

and Jack Harry isn't a troll, he's just an idiot.

He said that today???? ROFL

ROFL

Mizzou to the B1G. It's a lock!

It's Louisville.

K-State to continue praying that the XII stays together so it doesn't end up in the MVC!

Now there's a lock.