Weird that she didn't go for a couple double or single legs (not that I saw anyway) after getting so beat up stand up. When she did that legs running out gas one knee fall I was pretty sure she was toast. Hollywood movies and MMA don't mix!!!

Not sure what she'd say...After that beat down I don't think she even knows she had a fight tonight.

She was done before that kick and it was all boxing prior to that.
I really don't think anyone lays a finger on Holly for a while. She's too strong and she's technically far superior of a fighter over any woman I've seen in MMA. Look at most of Rhonda's previous fighters, none were technically sound at all. Hell, it's like they close their eyes and jab with both arms simultaneously until Rhonda does her thing.
Holly will roll through the competition because she knows how to fight!

**** me? I didn't insult you. **** you. I am now putting you on ignore. I never take people off ignore. Good-bye forever, you stupid asshole.

Really think that first pop flush on her nose f'd her up more than anyone knows.

Question:

Did this happen because she was simply overrated, or, like many fighters who achieve mainstream success, did her's cause her to lose focus on her training? Something else?

Rousey inexplicably decided that she was a boxer tonight. She had plenty of opportunities to take Holm down and submit her, but she refused because of reeruned "I'm a complete fighter" pride.

She's always been overrated...garbage stand up facing extremely favorable competition with horrible game plans.

She has no adjustments...if she can't clench, throw, and get the armbar well...you see what happens.

Pretty much -- but I also think her brains were scrambled from that first punch on the nose.

The comment about her corner doing her no favors between rounds can't be understated either.

It was bizarre. Rousey tried to get into a stand-up fight with Holm and its not working. She responded by doubling down and completely ignoring the possibility of going to the ground despite multiple clinches.

Yes

Did you see the weigh-in video? She was completely unhinged. I think the pressure finally got to her and her face became a punching bag tonight.

It seems like the tide on here turned against Rousey pretty significantly lately. I don't know if that is due to oversaturation or something else.

I do kind of feel bad for her though, because she had bankable crossover appeal that was tied to her invincibility. This fight probably ruins all of that, as in her earning potential is now completely gone.

Hard to say. Holm looked bad her previous fight against a turd which is why she was such a huge underdog.

Honestly it's hard to say. Rousey's strategy was really bad considering her opponent. She should have pressed the ground game from go. I think she was too cocky.

Does that make her overrated? I don't know. I think she's benefitted from lack of competition. I also believe that fight could have looked totally different with a different approach.

Rousey is not a good fighter. She has a silver bullet against pure strikers though, but tonight she didn't go to it, so since she is fundamentally a bad fighter outside of her tricks, she lost.

1. She was the hottest piece of ass to have that skill to ever come around and may very well may ever be and Dana White matched her to milk the cash cow</br></br> 2. She's getting into acting and losing the taste for blood

Tonight was a promoter's dream.

I think alot of it had to do with her being so gassed and the one time she was in position for the hip toss Holly defended it very well.

Id say Dana is crying himself to sleep.

LOL I actually read a theory on Twitter that proposed she was sandbagging this entire time because she knew she'd fight Ronda eventually and wanted Ronda to take her lightly.

Sounds insane I know but....yeah insane. LMAO

hah, earlier this week when I saw that Joanna was a heavier favorite than Rousey, I assumed maybe the gamblers thought Rousey might arrogantly come out trying to out-kickbox Holm just to prove she's a complete fighter for stupid pride. Thats exactly what happened, and Holm got the head kick KO. I guess the gamblers are smart.

Ronda's coach is also a POS douchebag that has rode her coattails to stardom.

As an actual coach, he's frickin terrible.

I'd say he's whackin' himself off to sleep now that he has two superstars. $$$

She was totally gassed so maybe she wasn't expecting this fight to go long. Whatever it was she got her ass kicked from start to finish.

Seems like an apt place to put this, starting at :45

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Holy Holm / Cyborg who do got?

If she was gassed, she didn't prepare., notwithstanding her poor strategy, which has been displayed already.

yes, her coach is probably committing tax fraud

I thought she looked a little flabby.

Sounds good to me!!! This stupid division is now interesting, if we can get Ronda to retire that would be better.

Same here.

I agree.

Seriously man? She chased Holly all over the cage but she wasn't skilled enough to cut her off, She got close a few times but its not easy grabbing someone and throwing them when they're retreating and you're not in position to do so... Ronda gave up her face in order to get close, and she got ktfo.

haha, women's bantamweight is now a ****ing mess. I guess Holm is the champ. Rousey may or may not be busy making movies. Meisha Tate surely deserves a chance, and what do we do with freaking Cyborg? LOL, we should just thunderdome them all in February and March

Rousey/Holm 2
Cyborg/Tate
Winners square off

This is all assuming Cyborg can make 135.

They clinched several times. Seriously, it wasn't like Holm was able to perfectly deny her any chance, Ronda made a deliberate decision not to pursue the toss into an armbar because of stupid pride.

Haha anybody saying she would beat mayweather is a clown. Holm stunned her with a punch. Can you imagine mayweather hitting her? She would be in a coma.

yep.

Huh? He has 2 PPV's locked up

I am so happy. Ronda Rousey is a ****ing unlikable bitch. Her criticism of Tate was mostly undeserved, and Rousey was generally a talented but thoroughly unlikable person.

If this ultimately leads to the rise of Meisha Tate, that would be awesome.

nonsense.

"Literally" is one of the most overused words in the English Dictionary, so I don't say this lightly. Ronda Rousey is literally the most overrated athlete (not just fighter) of this generation. She's spent the last few years fighting gas station attendants off the street with zero MMA experience. She just got annihilated by an exclusive boxer with a bare cupboard of martial arts.

She's done for. The legend is over. Tyson was able to redeem himself by beating other elite heavyweights. There is nothing for Rousey. The curtain has been pulled back, and the whole world knows it.

If she was aflash in the pan, she'll fade but if she has the heart, she will pu the time in to work on her standup and come back a better fighter.

Her fight with Tate was pretty intense...not all of her bouts have been easy knock outs.

The possibilities are endless. Rousey was getting stale. If you were cynical, you might think this is when you shake it up.

How so? People might check out the rematch then what? They had a lot in Rousey and her crossover appeal. Losing like that destroys her value as Hamas pointed out.

bullshit.

Ronda had a single-minded pride-driven dumb focus to strike with Holm. Go watch previous fights when Rousey was happy to settle with a submission, and it looks a lot different from this bullshit Ronda was participating in tonight.

Ronda never had a chance in movies either.. anyone see her in FF? TERRIBAD

Rousey taken to hospital for broken face/ego.

Who was elite that he beat? Ruddock?

Twitter says she passed out in shower and was transported to hospital.

I hope its career ending. If she gets with a new coach who is able to get her to recognize what her true talents are, then Rousey could once again strangle some interesting prospects with dumb sudden gimmick armbars.

Ruddock twice. Peter McNeeley at the time. Even Alex Stewart right after the Buster Douglas upset was considered a strongly equal opponent. It certainly wasn't the peak of the HW division, but there was a lot of talent that could have beaten Tyson on any given night. Difference being, he was the best of the best. If Rousey fought Cyborg, a coroner would have to be on the scene.

She's a cash cow who has run out of milk. This is the part where she solely focuses on Hollywood and bikini magazine spreads.

Its been awhile. I remember Ruddock being good but didnt remember weighing 215. Crazy how the size of HWs changed.

simmah down!

:spock:

I've had to put up with her bullshit for a couple years. This is a good day, other than the fact that boxing morons might somehow say this proves boxing is superior to MMA. (It is not, boxing sucks)

ufc is massively not entertaining... i'd take the greatest boxing match vs the greatest UFC match any day of the weak.

How so?

They both can be very entertaining. UFCs 155lb class has always had some great fights. The Gati/Ward trilogy were my favorite boxing matches ever.

Nighty, Night.

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With all due respect, why are you in this thread then?

As a huge boxing and MMA fan, I'll take a high powered UFC main event over boxing any day of the week.

Totally disagree. MMA is by far a more entertaining sport. There may be more technical striking in boxing, but MMA makes for a much more complete fight.

While I agree with your overall premise WRT: Tyson, Peter McNeeley was a complete scrub whose record was bought and paid for. That was a total sham of a fight.

There was also not any night where Alex Stewart would have beaten Tyson.

I don't know anything about MMA, so I don't know how good/bad Rousey's competition has been. To add further, Tyson cleaned that division out and ducked no one before his personal demons, with a massive assist from Don King and Robin Givens, ate him alive.

Tyrell Biggs was a legit fighter and Tyson completely ruined him. Not to mention Spinks, Tony Tubbs, Bonecrusher, Pinklon Thomas, and Tony Tucker.

Hell, for all the hate that division gets, it was the last time in history that elite American athletes were still in boxing, save for the rarest of circumstances (Floyd).

Is there any video of the actual knockout for those of us who didn't see it?

Somebody's pussy got broken tonight and it wasn't Rhonda's

i'm not hating people for liing MMA.. not my MO.. i just personally feel boxing is more entertaining when it has a competitive fight. There takes considerable about of skill for both.. but i prefer the finesse of boxing.

I grew up on boxing. I love boxing. But it's completely dead at the moment compared to MMA. Mayweather killed any chance at its revival.

It's probably due to the better athletes are going to MMA/NFL/BBall/etc.

I wonder how much of her earning potential is tied to her invincibility.

I don't think this is a Tyson situation because Tyson brought the fear of imminent, theatrical death to every fight he was in.

Rousey fights, at least with how they have ended, strike me as more of a clinical dismantling as opposed to a highlight reel knockout, and not really objectively entertaining.

I'm just spitballing here, but I wonder if a Rousey loss hurts her more because she's not exactly Julianne Moore in the acting department, and without the panache of her invincibility, is she really a draw?

Did she just lose three careers tonight rather than one?

Even clinical dismantlings in MMA are much more exciting than in boxing.

She still has priceless name recognition. Similar to John Cena who has the acting skills of Bristol Palin but yet can get any major role at any given time. If Rousey lost every single serious UFC fan, she would still have a female cult following. Then, there's your everyday horny American who will pay 10 dollars a ticket to potentially see a scene with Rousey wearing nothing but a bath towel.

I'll just have to agree to disagree with this. It's not my thing, but that's me.

Can I get a gif of the knockout at least?

That I can agree with. I'm a bit tipsy, so I might have not conveyed my sentiments correctly.. but a top heavy weight fight where it will be competitive.. i'll take that over any match up in UFC.. barring a crazy storyline going into the match. Boxing can be very boring with lousy fighters.

Its been dead about 10-15 years now. I think prime RJJ was about the last guy I cared about and enjoyed watching fight.

RJJ was an outright MONSTER.

Go to YouTube, type in "Holm vs Rousey", and click on "last 1 hour". I know there's multiple ones.

Boxing is a reeruned pile of shit. I see two so-called "fighters" who are extremely restricted in what they can do, and they are engaged in a mental and athletic competition that might possibly result in damage upon one another. Boxing is not at all interesting to me or resembles a fight.