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Saul Good 05-19-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6768331)
When basketball is a national brand, it matters a lot. Ask Duke, Kansas, NC and Kentucky. KU AD generates a lot more money than MU even though our football has been absolute shit. Of course the bluebloods in football make a shit ton more money than bluebloods in basketball do, but I assure you, MU football vs KU basketball has nothing to do with the B10 invite.

It doesn't mean much. Basketball is a drop in the bucket on the overall landscape of college athletics. Football drives the bus.

That said, Kansas has 1 championship in the last 20+ years. Let's not put them up there with Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky in terms of overall standing.

KcMizzou 05-19-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 6768353)
If you had a choice between getting your ass beat for 8 million a year and getting your ass beat for 22 million a year, by all means, take the money. The primary fact still remains... you're getting your ass beat regardless of who's doin' the beating.

You sound bitter. And extremely basketball-centric.

There's no reason to be nasty about it, BC. Kansas would be just as thrilled at the opportunity if they were in the mix.

Saul Good 05-19-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6768385)
LMAO

I have to admit that the school is going to be better off no matter what happens to their AD, though. I don't think Deaton cares one bit that their football (or any other sport for that matter) might suffer.

Yeah, most schools suffer athletically after getting tens of millions of dollars pumped into their coffers. Nobody wants to play for a school with top of the line facilities, especially when they have to play all of their games on television.

KcMizzou 05-19-2010 08:36 PM

Also, you claim we're the Big XII whipping boy now... and we'll be the Big 10 whipping boy if/when we join them. So, there's nothing to lose and a lot to gain, right?

Braincase 05-19-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6768390)
You sound bitter. And extremely basketball-centric.

There's no reason to be nasty about it, BC. Kansas would be just as thrilled at the opportunity if they were in the mix.

I doubt my bitterness or KU's bitterness has anything to do with it. I think it has much more to do with Mizzou getting passed over for the Orange Bowl, and somebody somewhere (Lew Perkins?) getting Iowa State a more lucrative football bowl than Mizzou.

Alden is getting tired of getting out-maneuvered by every other AD in the Big 12, so he's gonna take the Mizzou ball and go play in another backyard. Why would I be bitter? KU will be fine, and will continue to compete for National Championships in basketball, and will be competitive in football. The rest is of little consequence.

Saul Good 05-19-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6768390)
You sound bitter. And extremely basketball-centric.

There's no reason to be nasty about it, BC. Kansas would be just as thrilled at the opportunity if they were in the mix.

That's a Kansas fan for you. They think that basketball matters.

Let's put it this way: There is no such thing as a "basketball school" that has a solid football program. Every school with a solid football program is a "football school". "Basketball school" is just another way of saying that your football team sucks.

Ask Florida if they are a "basketball school". Ask Ohio State if they are a "basketball school". Ask Texas or Tennessee or Oklahoma or any other school who has had success in both sports if they are "basketball schools", and you'll get laughed out of the room.

Pants 05-19-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6768410)
Yeah, most schools suffer athletically after getting tens of millions of dollars pumped into their coffers. Nobody wants to play for a school with top of the line facilities, especially when they have to play all of their games on television.

You do realize that you will lose pretty much all exposure to Texas kids who happen to be your driving force, right?

KcMizzou 05-19-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 6768440)
I doubt my bitterness or KU's bitterness has anything to do with it. I think it has much more to do with Mizzou getting passed over for the Orange Bowl, and somebody somewhere (Lew Perkins?) getting Iowa State a more lucrative football bowl than Mizzou.

Alden is getting tired of getting out-maneuvered by every other AD in the Big 12, so he's gonna take the Mizzou ball and go play in another backyard. Why would I be bitter? KU will be fine, and will continue to compete for National Championships in basketball, and will be competitive in football. The rest is of little consequence.

If those things had never happened, and the offer was made... Mizzou would still be stupid to pass it up.

Pants 05-19-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6768441)
That's a Kansas fan for you. They think that basketball matters.

Let's put it this way: There is no such thing as a "basketball school" that has a solid football program. Every school with a solid football program is a "football school". "Basketball school" is just another way of saying that your football team sucks.

Ask Florida if they are a "basketball school". Ask Ohio State if they are a "basketball school". Ask Texas or Tennessee or Oklahoma or any other school who has had success in both sports if they are "basketball schools", and you'll get laughed out of the room.

And then, of course, you have schools who are "whichever sport finishes in the top 6 in conference school". Please, let's not start measuring dicks here because yours will be much smaller. LMAO

DJ's left nut 05-19-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 6768440)
I doubt my bitterness or KU's bitterness has anything to do with it. I think it has much more to do with Mizzou getting passed over for the Orange Bowl, and somebody somewhere (Lew Perkins?) getting Iowa State a more lucrative football bowl than Mizzou.

Alden is getting tired of getting out-maneuvered by every other AD in the Big 12, so he's gonna take the Mizzou ball and go play in another backyard. Why would I be bitter? KU will be fine, and will continue to compete for National Championships in basketball, and will be competitive in football. The rest is of little consequence.

You honestly think the Houston Bowl is the reason MU's going to the Big 10?

Re-read what you just wrote. Then re-read this thread and all the facts contained therein.

You think MU is leaving for the Big 10 and the tens of millions of dollars that move will yield then because of a couple of Bowl games?

A fan of the squad that just underwent a national embarassment in firing its football coach is calling out MU for "being out-maneuvered by every AD in the Big 12" and then claims not to be bitter.

Be honest - you wish it were you. You'd be ecstatic if KU got an invite.

Chin up, Beaker.

Saul Good 05-19-2010 08:48 PM

Missouri is the "whipping boy" in the Big XII, but Kansas is "competitive in football".

October 10 Iowa State W 41-36 (1-0)
October 17 at Colorado L 34-30 (1-1)
October 24 Oklahoma L 35-13 (1-2)
October 31 at Texas Tech L 42-21 (1-3)
November 7 at Kansas St L 17-10 (1-4)
November 14 Nebraska L 31-17 (1-5)
November 21 at No. 3 Texas L 51-20 (1-6)
November 28 vs. Missouri L 41-39 (1-7)

Saul Good 05-19-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6768443)
You do realize that you will lose pretty much all exposure to Texas kids who happen to be your driving force, right?

We won't get exposure when every game is televised?

Pants 05-19-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6768386)
It doesn't mean much. Basketball is a drop in the bucket on the overall landscape of college athletics. Football drives the bus.

That said, Kansas has 1 championship in the last 20+ years. Let's not put them up there with Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky in terms of overall standing.

LMAO

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. UK has been pretty much IRRELEVANT for the last 12 years. They hired Calipari and came back to prominence last year. UNC just got done playing in the ****ing NIT (yes, they have 2 NC's in the past 5 years, talk to me in 2013 to see if KU will have matched that). Duke has been pretty solid but was also teetering on the edge of obscurity until this year.

Saul Good 05-19-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6768448)
And then, of course, you have schools who are "whichever sport finishes in the top 6 in conference school". Please, let's not start measuring dicks here because yours will be much smaller. LMAO

Either you're a football school, or you're a ping-pong school. Unless you're Duke and have 5 NCs in the past 20 years or whatever they have, it really doesn't matter.

Pants 05-19-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6768475)
We won't get exposure when every game is televised?

:facepalm:

It's not going to be televised in Texas you stupid ****ing monkey. Where do you think the Big 10 Network is shown?


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