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lawrenceRaider 09-10-2021 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15822362)
All 4 of them are > athletic programs than Mizzouche
Fairly low bar.

POND_OF_RED 09-10-2021 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15822364)
I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.
Lol at the Big 12 getting ND or any big schools right now. When your ship is sinking you don’t try and net a whale, you just try to keep the thing afloat for as long as you can.

Prison Bitch 09-10-2021 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15822369)
Fairly low bar.
Fair point.

Your comment got me to thinking: how do the 4 adds stack up against locals like MU, KSU, and the Rust Shacks? Quite well in fact. If you look at their revenues (2019) and subtract out the conf payouts, they’re all the same.


MU: 106M. Less 45M SEC payout = 61M stand-alone
ISU: 95M. Less 37M B12 = 58M
KSU; 89M. Less 37M B12 = 52M


Four Adds all ~70M less $7M league payouts. So each is $60M stand-alone, or identical to the 3 local schools (far below Kansas obv)

Dante84 09-10-2021 11:10 AM
I wonder if the remaining 8 will come out ahead in some capacity since they aren't having to give such a huge chunk of the pie to the OU/TX overlords?

Clearly not as strong a brand with the two huge programs leaving and four mid-tier programs joining, but what will the net outcome be financially for the remaining 8?

Prison Bitch 09-10-2021 11:23 AM
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BWillie 09-10-2021 11:30 AM
Why did Colorado leave anyway? To go make less money in the Pac 12? Nebby, MU and AtM make sense but why would u want to go to the Pac 12 with Oregon States of the world.

ChiTown 09-10-2021 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15822439)
Why did Colorado leave anyway? To go make less money in the Pac 12? Nebby, MU and AtM make sense but why would u want to go to the Pac 12 with Oregon States of the world.
It had more to do with cultural fit with the PAC than anything else. Athletically, it’s been a horrible move.

Sassy Squatch 09-10-2021 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15822439)
Why did Colorado leave anyway? To go make less money in the Pac 12? Nebby, MU and AtM make sense but why would u want to go to the Pac 12 with Oregon States of the world.
They were in that group of 6 the PAC 10 was after to make it the PAC 16 back in 2010. Accepted the invite regardless of the fact the other 5 didn't end up coming.

tredadda 09-10-2021 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15822364)
I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.
Yeah, I see your argument but Colorado jumped ship due to cultural fit more than anything. Can't see them changing on that. It's best for the Big 12 to expand east to support WVU versus going farther west, unless they can snag a bigger fish like BYU which they were able to do.

TribalElder 09-10-2021 12:38 PM
ROFL Mizzou is in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL

Titty Meat 09-10-2021 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15822362)
All 4 of them are > athletic programs than Mizzouche
Remember when you had inside info ku to the acc lol

Stewie 09-10-2021 12:48 PM
After thinking about this for a while I like the additions. Good mix with interesting dynamics.

Heck, our head coach and best players on offense are from schools in the new Big 12.

Prison Bitch 09-10-2021 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15822581)
ROFL Mizzou is in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL

You have it backwards. It’s MU fans mocking the B12 and the additions. We are simply pointing out that you’re no better athletically, nor do you generate any more income on your own, than these schools.


It’s great to get a fat check from the SEC. but you haven’t explained how MU itself is better.

lawrenceRaider 09-10-2021 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15822581)
ROFL Mizzou is a doormat in the best college conference in the world and the KU folks keep trying to take shots at them

hilarious

BIG12 gonna extend an offer to Johnson County Community College next ROFL
FYP.

lawrenceRaider 09-10-2021 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15822607)
You have it backwards. It’s MU fans mocking the B13 and the additions. We are simply pointing out that you’re no better athletically, nor do you generate any more income on your own, than these schools.


It’s great to get a fat check from the SEC. but you haven’t explained how MU itself is better.
When all your school has is SEC, SEC, SEC, it is an admission of having given up on the actual school and living vicariously through the better teams in the SEC.


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