Interesting look at why the Browns giving Watson all that guaranteed money pissed off the other owners.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/b...act-aftermath/

Several ownership-level sources believe that Chargers owner Dean Spanos would have a difficult time stroking a check covering what could be the $250M-$275M in guarantees required to secure Herbert's rights for the long term. "I'm not sure that's something Dean could do under these circumstances even if he really wanted to," one ownership source said. Several others suggested that if they had to handicap the situation, Bengals owner Mike Brown would exhaust the franchise tags with Burrow – taking him through 2026 and his age 30 season – and draft a replacement along the way.

Could see this coming from a mile away.

Dean Spanos and Mike Brown don’t have the $$$ to give a similar fully guaranteed contract to Herbert/Burrow…. could be future trouble for them.

ROFL Browns just out here ****ing over every franchise that has their QB on a rookie deal. You love to see it.

Patrick Peterson staying in Minne

Rich owners licking their chops

Mike Brown isn't even worth a billion. Legit would have to put around a third of his net wealth into escrow to give Burrow what will be the new market value.

Yet another reason to be uber thankful for Mahomes contract.

Locking him up when we did, as long as we did, and for that price AND Mahomes and his agents being willing to 'play ball' for the best interests of the team going forward.

This contract will be the gift that keeps on giving years and years ahead . . . . . .

KPass was in Dorsey’s last class.

I just heard on the radio here in Atlanta that the Chiefs are very interested in obj not sure when that was released or if it means anything at all? I haven't been online at all today hardly, so

https://twitter.com/devclemnfl/statu...xcCwH4bdKEaJWw

Says we are actively trying to get a deal done for Bradberry. Comp is late rounder or swap of mid rounders.

I’m wondering if this is really an update….

Seems about right. They're desperate for the cap space.

Does it say whether the Giants are picking up any of that contract or are we going to be responsible for the entire $13 mil. cap hit?

Doesn't say on that particular tweet.

Burrow won't make them. He's from there and doesn't seem like the type.

He’s just reporting the report from yesterday. It’s nothing new.

I don't get this at all....What do you mean they don't have the money? Every team has to be like around what 90% of the salary cap each year. NFL is not MLB!

Giving out $50M+ to a QB is something EVERY Owner/Team can do and it just means that they can not pay other players as much.

I mean what am I missing? Small market teams have to spend as much as large market teams and large market teams can't spend anymore than small market teams

please someone explain why owners "Can't afford" to pay QBs big time money?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DK Metcalf is (+750) to join the Kansas City Chiefs 👀<br><br>(<a href="https://twitter.com/OddsCheckerUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OddsCheckerUS</a>) <a href="https://t.co/3mYT96s8vJ">pic.twitter.com/3mYT96s8vJ</a></p>&mdash; PFF Bet (@PFF_Bet) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Bet/status/1509236528706428928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Because you have to set aside all money you've guaranteed into an escrow for the player. Now, let's say by the time Burrow comes up he and his agent are asking for about 300 million fully guaranteed, for 6 seasons. Mike Brown has a net worth of 900 million. See the issue?

OH VAIL YA!!!!

Metcalf will want Hill money soon. Doesn't really make sense. Another Berry in the backfield, dawg?

Won’t believe it until Ballsack Sports confirms

Or Buttcrack Sports!!

Also reputable

S Deon Bush Chiefs contract - $1,035,000 Base, $152,000 Bonus, $1,047,000 Cap and all is fully guaranteed.

LMAO

That will be expensive is picks and money.

Unless he's bad will all his millions. What's the problem.

Pooh, he can make anything off the money. No interest or anything. I get it.

We’re about to have $80 million in cap space next year LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is true.<br><br>However, the Chiefs can open literally $42M in cap space with a simple restructure of Mahomes (built into his deal) and cutting Frank Clark. <a href="https://t.co/45Byckb5wT">https://t.co/45Byckb5wT</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1509229632805081089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What does BJ Hardon say?

Anal warts sports is my go to

But only 22 players under contract… not enough to even field a team

1972-1994 has something to say about that, and most here remember the expansion hence the correlation

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When another fan base is talking trash about Mahomes. <a href="https://t.co/9Z8zkGNpOC">pic.twitter.com/9Z8zkGNpOC</a></p>&mdash; Hudi Productions (@hudsononeill15) <a href="https://twitter.com/hudsononeill15/status/1508433216558014466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

That’s a little misleading as several of the guys we have on 1 year contracts now will probably be back again next year on 1 year deals.

And then add 12 draft picks to that (or 10 if you think we’ll trade a couple).

And probably another 10-15 UDFA after the draft, of which probably 3-5 make the team. Most of which will probably be under contract for more than one year or will be retained on a year to year basis.

So that’ll get you to at least 40 players there for 2023. And takes up maybe $25-$30 mil. in cap space. So still leaves you about $50 mil. to play with in FA before the draft in 2023.

The Chiefs won’t have any problem fielding a full team with that amount of cap space for 2023.

The Chiefs have one of the better cap situations in the NFL right now and it’s about to get better with the influx of young cheap talent that is coming. We’ll be just fine.

Anyone who tells you other wise is an idiot.

Does Jameson Williams remind anyone else of Chase

No

God no.

They are both WRs who played in the SEC

Maybe it’s just watching on a phone

https://twitter.com/jarretttsutton/s...sJAT_nXSKHbtIw

Actually, both are very similar...

Jamarr Chase 6' 1" 200 lbs

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Jameson Williams 6' 2" 189 lbs

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Jesus.

I want Jameson Williams and would move up for him.

He's fast, has great route running, can find space in a zone and is 6'2.

Do want.

Hope Veach trades up for him!

I think a lot of people would agree, but how far?

But is a slim at 187-189lbs. He may have a problem getting jammed or bumped off his rout in the NFL. Some are comparing him to Chase. Chase has a good 10 lbs on the guy and looks and is much stronger. I'd be happy with him, but I would not give up a lot to trade up for him.

I'm not comparing him to Chase, but Chase isn't big either. He's pretty small physically.

Devonta Smith and Waddle are also smaller, but both look like they could be great wide receivers (assuming their qb doesn't screw them over).

I just think Williams would excel with Reid.

I know the “smart” thing would be to trade up a little for the best edge possible then draft a receiver project often. But damn I could talk myself into a trade up for a wideout then just draft high motor pass rushers often. Like go get a corvette now and buy a cheap work truck often.

We have whiffed on pass rush for a few years. Veach had better do something or it will be along year. Every team killed Burrow but us.

This is where I'm at.

Veach will get roasted on here if we trade up for a WR. But if they see the guy they want and go and get him, I'm on board.

WR1 has made this team go over the past few years.

But the smart move is trading 29 and 50 for the DE and then using 30 on the WR they want if he's available.

Please get Williams or Watson!

True. And we can still pay Orlando Brown and have a truckload of cash.

The Arrowhead Pride guys are convinced the Chiefs are going to trade up as high as #10 for a DE. Their reasoning is that the Chiefs were completely inactive in the first round of DE free agents. So they think there's some that the Chiefs really like and they were planning to trade up even before the Hill trade.

Just reporting the news. We'll see what happens.

Yep, this is my thinking too. First preference is to provide elite weapons. I also don't know which DE i want to go up for. Maybe Johnson?

Unless by some miracle Thibadeux is up there i don't see it. Who are we getting? Maybe Travon Walker? Great.potential but helluva gamble

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Maybe its just that the smart move isnt the sexy move!

That smart thing would be to actually use the value we got from the Hill trade, not give it away.

Roasted? No. Veach has earned my trust.

Still, that doesn't mean that trading away most, if not all, of the value we got for Hill is a good idea, especially for a guy that can't contribute right away, if at all, in his first season.

Bad ideas are bad ideas, even for Veach.

I dont know whos worth trading both firsts for? The top edge guys will probably be gone, and unless im mistaken theres no guarantee like a chase young or a bosa in this draft.

Side note: The problem with our KC talking heads especially KCSN and RGR is they throw something out, then their own following echos it and they it starts being taken as gospel. RGR was convinced there was no way they hadnt done the mahomes restructure for like two weeks, and kcsn has been sold on the two firsts trade up and that we should be all in for Lockett.

Unless something magical happens, the answer is "nobody". Stay put and use the value we got for Hill.

I don't want to give away ANY of the top 60 picks.

We need to get about 6 contributors from this draft; and really four good starters. With 12 picks that should be do-able-and with last year's draft as an example, we can do it. You're not going to by giving away a bunch of your top 4 shots though.

If we could get 4 above average starters this draft would be a home run.

If Veach does trade up I can see him trading 30 to a team wanting to get back in the first round

Uhh. Wut?

We got THREE in 6 picks last year.

This year we have 12 picks.

I think he's saying Veach would trade up with 29 and then trade down from 30 to get the additional picks back that you packaged with 29.

Yep...I think you HOPE Ojabo falls, if not Mafe or Ebiketie both have elite physical traits, flexibility etc to become very good edge players. Elite the first year? Unlikely, but you have kept a high pick to use on a stud that may have fallen, or as bait for a desperate team that wants a falling QB...preying on the desperate franchises for a falling QB is really using the Hill trade for max value.

Keep 50, you're going to get Pickens, Watson, or Trey McBride on the O, or a choice between Pitre, Woolen, Mathis, Leal, or a really good Edge. I just don't see why you would give so much away for 1 player when you just came to the recognition that tying up so much of your resources for a few players is a bad idea??

That's not a terrible idea.

I’m not in love with the idea of trading up for Williams. If he falls, ok, but given Reid’s propensity to SLOWLY integrate rookie receivers into his offense + the January ACL injury…you’re looking at minimal production in 2022 (if any) from a 1st round pick you’ve now given up multiple picks for.

:thumb:

Why do we care about the 5th year option, btw? It's not nearly as meaningful as it was before the new CBA

:clap:

I think the top 103 in this draft could provide 6 impact rookies (starters or heavy rotational players by winter) if you were drafting for need. I think they will draft BPAs, but to trading away Top 100s in this draft (where the value is) will please me as much as seeing "KeiVarae Russell" on the Big Board.

If trade at all it better be for a pass rusher. Our DL is garbage in that area. Veach said it was a priority but we have done nothing but let teams sign them all away.

Bc the FA’s they wanted are extremely expensive or old. I bet they draft multiple DL early and the bring back Ingram

The guys who signed at DL so far are old and expensive.

The guys I want are old and cheap..they will come last as many want more money and won't sign just yet until the market starts to dry up they will take lower $$$ deals.

Guys like Jerry Hughes are out there and can come in pretty cheap and give us some juice at 40% snaps.

If they want Ingram back then why isn't he back? They could have had him before the season last year and didn't. Key is the same. He signed cheap but not here. Why? Veach has ****ed up the DL. He's done well over all but not the DL.

Ingram won't sign until after the draft. That's him, not the team. It's his MO.

Clowney is much the same. We're waiting for the asking price to come down. They're waiting to avoid a good portion of training camp.