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Chief Pagan 04-14-2022 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16246773)
You are all way too young or every one of you would be saying Danny Manning.

I didn't see every single game that Danny played at AFH, but I think I could probably count the number of games I missed on one hand.

Kiimo 04-14-2022 10:58 PM

1. Wilt
2. Danny
3. Hinrich, dude was such a baller
4. I'd love to say Pierce but he was better in the League. I'm going with TRob what a story
5. Embiid, I was in on him early and I've never seen a college player advance that quickly on any team. Dude makes me still root for PHILADELPHIA which is a miracle.

Chief Pagan 04-14-2022 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16246575)
1. Frank Mason and it isnt even close. I hope that guy wants to coach at KU someday
2. Pierce
3. Chalmers
4. Collins
5. Ochai
6. Hinrich

Overrated
1. Joel Embiid. Great NBA player and got alot better but id rather have sooo many guys IN COLLEGE over him.
2. Vaughn
3. Sean Pearson. Shooter who couldn't shoot
4. Dedric Lawson
5. Devonte Graham. Took so many terrible 2-pt shots and always got a free pass.

I can understand saying he was over rated as far as impact because he started out raw, ended up injured, and was a one and done.

But toward the end of the year when he was coming on he was a joy to watch and he was absolutely a monster at both ends.

But yea, he didn't dominate that many games but I still have really fond memories of watching his college games and I'm certainly wistful about what might have been if he had stayed healthy.

He could have carried the team on his back to a title.

Chief Pagan 04-14-2022 11:10 PM

Yea one afternoon I stumbled on a YouTube documentary on Wilt.

Certainly the most amazing basketball player to come out of Kansas.

There was an article in the Atlantic, and if I recall it correctly, you only have to go back 10 or 15 years and Wilt had more 60 point games than all other NBA players combined.

Kiimo 04-14-2022 11:13 PM

Never forget that one year Wilt lead the league in assists because why not


10k women is so low on the list of amazing shit he did

big nasty kcnut 04-15-2022 01:38 AM

Does it feel so good to know that your Kansas Jayhawks are the reigning defending NCAA Champions the conquerors your 6 time thou should be 7 times champion Kansas Jayhawks.

DJay23 04-15-2022 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16247067)
Never forget that one year Wilt lead the league in assists because why not


10k women is so low on the list of amazing shit he did

Several years ago when the Jordan vs Lebron argument was really raging, I would often say, neither, its Wilt.

To my knowledge no NBA or NCAA rules were changed because of MJ or Lebron.

Wilt was the impetus for 4 rule changes (The article says 5 but then also says one of the rules had already been changed). The NCAA or NBA had never seen that combination of size and athleticism before. In my opinion you can never talk glowingly enough about how he should rate.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/...an%20in%201951.

There are a few things left to say about Wilt Chamberlain. The big man is one of the most dominant players ever and nobody can deny it. He didn't win as many championships as Bill Russell or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did, but Wilt is one of the most memorable names in the game of basketball.

Chamberlain not only set a lot of records but also made big plays and had impressive stats during his career. He was responsible for changing the game of basketball. The NBA and NCAA actually changed the rules to make it harder for Wilt. Thanks to Chamberlain, the league changed five rules:

Offensive Goaltending
Defensive Goaltending
Size of the lane/paint
Free throw shooting
Inbounding the Ball

In 1956, the league banned offensive goaltending. The rule said that no player can touch the ball if any part of it is over the cylinder. Nowadays it's called basketball interference. 12 years before that, in 1944, the league had already banned defensive goaltending.

In 1964, trying to stop Chamberlain, the NBA widened the lane area from 12 feet to 16. Curiously, they first widened it from 6 feet to 12 to diminish the dominance of George Mikan in 1951.

During his time at the University of Kansas, teammates were throwing alley-oop passes over the top of the backboard from behind it so Wilt could make dunks. The NCAA changed this rule, too, after watching the big advantage Wilt had.

One of the most incredible stories about Chamberlain is how he shot free throws. He made the shot, jumped from behind the free-throw line and slam the ball through the basket before his feet touched the ground. He didn't touch any part of the lane area while the ball went through the rim, so that wasn't a violation. That created another rule that says, "players cannot cross the plane of the free-throw line, even if your feet are not touching the ground, until the ball hits the rim or passes through the basket."


You can talk about all the good things this man did in his career, how impressive was his jump, his 100-point game, whatever; making a competition changing the rules for you, that's a different story. That's why Chamberlain will always be part of the greatest players ever.

Lzen 04-15-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16246754)

ROFL

Lzen 04-15-2022 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16247027)
Excellent because I'm drunk and telling stories I worked at Alvamar as a waiter when Wilt came back.

EVERYONE was there. When I walked in my idiot manager said okay James you are going to wait on Wilt tonight but if you actually call him Bombaata you're fired.

I talked a lot of game how funny it would be to call him that but I pussed out in the end. That was a great weekend for Kansas btw



edit: seeing him say Rock Chalk Jayhawk in that pregame footage still gives me chills

Cool story. What's Bombaata about?

Lzen 04-15-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16247198)
Several years ago when the Jordan vs Lebron argument was really raging, I would often say, neither, its Wilt.

To my knowledge no NBA or NCAA rules were changed because of MJ or Lebron.

Wilt was the impetus for 4 rule changes (The article says 5 but then also says one of the rules had already been changed). The NCAA or NBA had never seen that combination of size and athleticism before. In my opinion you can never talk glowingly enough about how he should rate.

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/...an%20in%201951.

There are a few things left to say about Wilt Chamberlain. The big man is one of the most dominant players ever and nobody can deny it. He didn't win as many championships as Bill Russell or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did, but Wilt is one of the most memorable names in the game of basketball.

Chamberlain not only set a lot of records but also made big plays and had impressive stats during his career. He was responsible for changing the game of basketball. The NBA and NCAA actually changed the rules to make it harder for Wilt. Thanks to Chamberlain, the league changed five rules:

Offensive Goaltending
Defensive Goaltending
Size of the lane/paint
Free throw shooting
Inbounding the Ball

In 1956, the league banned offensive goaltending. The rule said that no player can touch the ball if any part of it is over the cylinder. Nowadays it's called basketball interference. 12 years before that, in 1944, the league had already banned defensive goaltending.

In 1964, trying to stop Chamberlain, the NBA widened the lane area from 12 feet to 16. Curiously, they first widened it from 6 feet to 12 to diminish the dominance of George Mikan in 1951.

During his time at the University of Kansas, teammates were throwing alley-oop passes over the top of the backboard from behind it so Wilt could make dunks. The NCAA changed this rule, too, after watching the big advantage Wilt had.

One of the most incredible stories about Chamberlain is how he shot free throws. He made the shot, jumped from behind the free-throw line and slam the ball through the basket before his feet touched the ground. He didn't touch any part of the lane area while the ball went through the rim, so that wasn't a violation. That created another rule that says, "players cannot cross the plane of the free-throw line, even if your feet are not touching the ground, until the ball hits the rim or passes through the basket."


You can talk about all the good things this man did in his career, how impressive was his jump, his 100-point game, whatever; making a competition changing the rules for you, that's a different story. That's why Chamberlain will always be part of the greatest players ever.

:spock: Wilt was playing basketball for KU during the 1956-1957 season.

DJay23 04-15-2022 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16247262)
:spock: Wilt was playing basketball for KU during the 1956-1957 season.

The article isn't very well written either. :banghead:

Prison Bitch 04-15-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16247049)
I didn't see every single game that Danny played at AFH, but I think I could probably count the number of games I missed on one hand.

I saw him a lot in person. Unreal talent obv, second in program history to Wilt. I also went to Wilt Day (January 1998). He walked past me and good lord I’ve never seen a bigger human. I did sit next to Willie Roaf one time who’s obv massive, but Wilt was 7-1 300+ and he was still cut like granite in his 60s.

Wilt ran track and field too in college. Rumor always was Phog gave him a new car to come but it’s never been substantiated.

My older cousin was friends with Danny. She said his summer job was at Alvamar. He turned on the sprinklers for the golf course at 8am, waited for a half hour to turn them off. Then left. Came back at 5pm to do a second watering. All in a full days pay!

Kiimo 04-15-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16247251)
Cool story. What's Bombaata about?

https://i.imgur.com/Ttx8sqB.jpg

Lzen 04-15-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16247508)

Wilt was in Conan the barbarian? Huh, I never knew that.

Kiimo 04-15-2022 12:45 PM

Conan The Destroyer to be precise

sedated 04-15-2022 12:45 PM

All these great players and yet no mention of Brady Morningstar or Christian Moody

Imon Yourside 04-15-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 16247841)
All these great players and yet no mention of Brady Morningstar or Christian Moody

The Crowd isn't booing they're chanting Mooooooooodeeeeeeeeee

DJay23 04-15-2022 05:18 PM

He didn't have great numbers all told, but a guy I always liked from the early Roy teams was Alonzo Jamison.

Lzen 04-15-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16248322)
He didn't have great numbers all told, but a guy I always liked from the early Roy teams was Alonzo Jamison.

One of my favorites from the early Roy years was Steve Woodbury

MVChiefFan 04-15-2022 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16248490)
One of my favorites from the early Roy years was Steve Woodbury

That dude seemed like he was there forever. Like he had seven years of eligibility. Lol

Loved him, though!

Mr_Tomahawk 04-15-2022 07:59 PM

Julian Wright

smithandrew051 04-15-2022 08:29 PM

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DJay23 04-15-2022 08:47 PM

Been watching some historic KU games lately. Working on this one right now. 1991 Semi Final vs UNC. Roy's first Final Four. Mark Randall, Alonzo Jamison, Adonis Jordan, Mike Maddox, Downtown Terry Brown, Steve Woodberry, Richard Scott.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovrpIpjpNk

DJay23 04-15-2022 08:49 PM

Also Hubert Davis starring for UNC and a freshman Eric Montross.

KC_Connection 04-15-2022 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16248528)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Without further ado...<br><br>We now present to you - Mean Tweets, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KUbball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KUbball</a> edition...<br><br>Sorry we couldn&#39;t get to all of you ���� <a href="https://t.co/jcAJpbpYiX">pic.twitter.com/jcAJpbpYiX</a></p>&mdash; Kansas Men’s Basketball (@KUHoops) <a href="https://twitter.com/KUHoops/status/1515139077481320459?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty good, but I wish they went even harder than that. You just know Braun and especially McCormack have seen a lot the past 4 years.

smithandrew051 04-15-2022 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16248559)
Pretty good, but I wish they went even harder than that. You just know Braun and especially McCormack have seen a lot the past 4 years.

I was glad the Braun neck thread made it.

They should’ve just had Braun read your early season CP posts. That would’ve been more entertaining.

KC_Connection 04-15-2022 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16248560)
I was glad the Braun neck thread made it.

They should’ve just had Braun read your early season CP posts. That would’ve been more entertaining.

Shit, you could easily fill a 10 minute video with my posts about Braun over the last 2 years.

Monty 04-16-2022 04:41 AM

Full replay here: https://basketball-video.com/ncaa_vi...l_full_games/1

smithandrew051 04-16-2022 07:06 AM

Top 5 Bill Self Era Kansas Dunks:

Honorable Mentions:

Julian Wright 360 vs Texas
Andrew Wiggins vs K State
Ben McLemore vs Oregon State
Tarik Black v Texas
Cliff Alexander vs Oklahoma State
Udoka Azubuike vs Texas Southern
Thomas Robinson vs Ohio State
Legerald Vick 360 vs Purdue
Josh Jackson vs UAB
Wayne Selden alley oop vs UCONN
Marcus Morris vs Pitt State
David McCormack vs Villanova
Christian Braun vs Dayton

Top 5:

5. Julian Wright outside the lane vs Missouri
4. Thomas Robinson alley oop from Tyshawn Taylor vs Baylor
3. Jamari Traylor alley oop vs Texas
2. Ochai Agbaji inbounds vs TCU
1. Wayne Selden poster vs Baylor (the Uncle Anthony dunk)

smithandrew051 04-16-2022 07:08 AM

I’m sure I’m forgetting some. Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

Bearcat 04-16-2022 05:46 PM

https://i.imgur.com/rSvBJc6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xr0HlRs.jpg

KC_Connection 04-16-2022 06:19 PM

What a collection of four championships.

Pants 04-16-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16249249)
What a collection of four championships.

LMAO

Bearcat 04-16-2022 06:31 PM

I've always wished they had previous championships available and just noticed they actually do for the Chiefs... wish they at least had 2008 for KU, but could potentially do a custom bottle.


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/02...95fa0_720x.jpg

SithCeNtZ 04-16-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16248702)
I’m sure I’m forgetting some. Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

For me, the rush dunk off the backboard pass and Arthur on the lob against Villanova are the non-final four highlight of the 2008 title team. Especially with the Gus Johnson calls: here's the looooooobbbbb.

Bearcat 04-16-2022 06:55 PM

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smithandrew051 04-16-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16249270)
For me, the rush dunk off the backboard pass and Arthur on the lob against Villanova are the non-final four highlight of the 2008 title team. Especially with the Gus Johnson calls: here's the looooooobbbbb.

Yeah those were both nice too.

I almost added the OT lob to Arthur against Memphis. Wasn’t that great of a dunk, but it was still epic. The game was over after that.

Lzen 04-17-2022 09:13 AM

Just came across this on YouTube.
Pretty cool history.
https://youtu.be/qXC0jsGZlq0

Monty 04-17-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16249692)
Just came across this on YouTube.
Pretty cool history.
https://youtu.be/qXC0jsGZlq0

That was quite enjoyable. Spring semester 1988 was my first semester there, so really was fun to watch. :thumb:

Pablo 04-18-2022 07:32 PM

Booclones are losing their best player after pulling that basketball program outta the dumpster. What a miserable school to root for lol

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smithandrew051 04-18-2022 07:39 PM

That Ochai video is a great watch. Ochai turned catch and shoot 3’s, straight line down hill drives, and baseline lobs into the best single season a Jayhawk has had since Danny Manning.

Seems like such a great kid too. Just awesome.

DJay23 04-19-2022 04:23 PM

McCormack entering the NBA draft.

Two months ago I was excited for his tenure to be over. Now considering the extent of his injured foot and the glimpses of good Dave through the tournament, I was hoping he might come back and anchor the post.

Buehler445 04-19-2022 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16252743)
McCormack entering the NBA draft.

Two months ago I was excited for his tenure to be over. Now considering the extent of his injured foot and the glimpses of good Dave through the tournament, I was hoping he might come back and anchor the post.

Wish him the best.

He may not get drafted, but there is something to work with there. He can move around pretty well (if healthy) and his stroke is pretty damned smooth. I wish he would have tried to stretch a bit at KU, because I think he was good for it.

smithandrew051 04-19-2022 05:49 PM

Won’t complain about any champions going to the draft.

Self definitely needs to hit the transfer portal for a big though. Udeh has a high upside, but he’s really raw. Adams is probably more of a Traylor type energy big. Probably have to pencil in Clemence as the starter for now.

Kiimo 04-19-2022 06:02 PM

He can always come back when he doesn't hear what he wants to hear

Pablo 04-19-2022 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16252846)
He can always come back when he doesn't hear what he wants to hear

It’s basically once he hires an agent he’s a pro but not before right?

smithandrew051 04-19-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16252859)
It’s basically once he hires an agent he’s a pro but not before right?

Correct. There’s also a deadline to withdraw.

I was really curious if the NIL change might keep him around. He’s never been more marketable among KU fans.

DJay23 04-19-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16252859)
It’s basically once he hires an agent he’s a pro but not before right?

I think there is a new wrinkle to that, that if you hire an NCAA vetted agent, you can come back.

Kiimo 04-19-2022 06:42 PM

I would like to see what, if anything, Cam Martin can do as long as we're talking Bigs

RockChalk 04-19-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16252825)
Won’t complain about any champions going to the draft.

Self definitely needs to hit the transfer portal for a big though. Udeh has a high upside, but he’s really raw. Adams is probably more of a Traylor type energy big. Probably have to pencil in Clemence as the starter for now.

Might be worth following Kofi’s announcement tomorrow afternoon. Lot of smoke out of Illinois right now that he’s considering a transfer to KU. His reps reached out to KU last year about a transfer but that was shot down by Big Dave returning. Something to pay attention to, at least. Would be a huge transfer if he really did leave Illinois.

DJay23 04-19-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 16252957)
Might be worth following Kofi’s announcement tomorrow afternoon. Lot of smoke out of Illinois right now that he’s considering a transfer to KU. His reps reached out to KU last year about a transfer but that was shot down by Big Dave returning. Something to pay attention to, at least. Would be a huge transfer if he really did leave Illinois.

Wow, that would be a HUMONGOUS get!

DJay23 04-19-2022 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16252908)
I would like to see what, if anything, Cam Martin can do as long as we're talking Bigs

Rumors I've read elsewhere are that he is slow to get his shot and struggles defending Big XII bodies.

smithandrew051 04-19-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 16252957)
Might be worth following Kofi’s announcement tomorrow afternoon. Lot of smoke out of Illinois right now that he’s considering a transfer to KU. His reps reached out to KU last year about a transfer but that was shot down by Big Dave returning. Something to pay attention to, at least. Would be a huge transfer if he really did leave Illinois.

There you go playing games with my heart.

If that happens and Wilson/Braun come back, I’m calling repeat. Mark it down.

RockChalk 04-19-2022 08:59 PM

Yeah definitely not playing games. Just a lot of chatter about it at the moment.

I do know for a fact that Kofi’s people reached out directly to the KU staff last year about a transfer. That came directly from a member of the staff in a conversation with me while holding. I think I had mentioned it in a thread last year. That conversation is the only reason I’m giving any credence to the chatter coming out of Illinois today.

Would be an absolute ridiculous steal for us.

BWillie 04-19-2022 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 16253104)
Yeah definitely not playing games. Just a lot of chatter about it at the moment.

I do know for a fact that Kofi’s people reached out directly to the KU staff last year about a transfer. That came directly from a member of the staff in a conversation with me while holding. I think I had mentioned it in a thread last year. That conversation is the only reason I’m giving any credence to the chatter coming out of Illinois today.

Would be an absolute ridiculous steal for us.

Offensively, I can't think of a player who would be more productive in a Bill Self system. It would be as if Bill Self molded him in a lab to play for him.

teedubya 04-19-2022 10:04 PM

Being in New Orleans at the Final Four with my 2 kids was one of my favorite experiences with them. It was unreal watching that come from behind final vs. UNC. Just spectacular.

KC_Connection 04-19-2022 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16252846)
He can always come back when he doesn't hear what he wants to hear

And McCormack surely won't hear anything that he wants to hear. Still, that statement of his looked pretty final and you can't end a college career any better than going out on top with a title after a game winning shot.

smithandrew051 04-19-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16253160)
And McCormack surely won't hear anything that he wants to hear. Still, that statement of his looked pretty final and you can't end a college career any better than going out on top with a title after a game winning shot.

That’s what I thought too. He really didn’t leave the door open at all.

From an image perspective, it’s a great time to go. Fans will remember him as being way better than he actually was. I just didn’t think that really mattered to the players, but maybe it does.

He won’t get drafted. So it’s either G League, Euro ball, or come back and clean up on NIL money.

KC_Connection 04-19-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16253168)
That’s what I thought too. He really didn’t leave the door open at all.

From an image perspective, it’s a great time to go. Fans will remember him as being way better than he actually was. I just didn’t think that really mattered to the players, but maybe it does.

He won’t get drafted. So it’s either G League, Euro ball, or come back and clean up on NIL money.

Should be able to find a spot in Europe and make some money there if he wants it. Kaun did and McCormack is at least at that level.

Buehler445 04-20-2022 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16253190)
Should be able to find a spot in Europe and make some money there if he wants it. Kaun did and McCormack is at least at that level.

Kaun was a little better NBA body and the game has changed somewhat, but yeah, he should be able to keep playing ball if he wants.

smithandrew051 04-20-2022 06:16 AM

LeBron should demand that David McCormack becomes a Laker. He wins titles when he has Jayhawks on his roster.

SithCeNtZ 04-20-2022 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16252825)
Won’t complain about any champions going to the draft.

Self definitely needs to hit the transfer portal for a big though. Udeh has a high upside, but he’s really raw. Adams is probably more of a Traylor type energy big. Probably have to pencil in Clemence as the starter for now.

If Wilson comes back we have 6 bigs on the roster. We don't have any room for more bigs. While you'd obviously take Kofi if he wants to come, you would almost certainly lose 1-2 guys with either a decommit or transfers, and unfortunately Martin is the only guy you'd be ok with losing but he can't go anywhere.

RockChalk 04-20-2022 08:10 AM

Kofi declared for the draft this morning. Obviously could still pull his name out, but seems like that dream is dead.

smithandrew051 04-20-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 16253378)
Kofi declared for the draft this morning. Obviously could still pull his name out, but seems like that dream is dead.

Thankfully this dream only lasted like 12 hours.

I’ve been teased by enough players who ended up going elsewhere *cough* Deandre Daniels *cough*

sedated 04-20-2022 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16253345)
unfortunately Martin is the only guy you'd be ok with losing but he can't go anywhere.

Is this true? I thought there was some theory about Cam Martin realizing he couldn't play at this level so wanted to redshirt last year and transfer out for his last season.

Has there ever been a single case of someone redshirting their (first) senior year and still being any level of productive player? Other than medical redshirt obviously.

Kiimo 04-20-2022 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16253190)
Should be able to find a spot in Europe and make some money there if he wants it. Kaun did and McCormack is at least at that level.

Be careful which country you choose over there these days.

KC_Connection 04-20-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16254399)
Be careful which country you choose over there these days.

Well I think we can rule out playing in Moscow like Kaun did.

Kiimo 04-20-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16254548)
Well I think we can rule out playing in Moscow like Kaun did.

Or blocks from the North Korean border like Selby did

Mr_Tomahawk 04-20-2022 05:15 PM

Jay Wright retiring.

Buehler445 04-20-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 16254621)
Jay Wright retiring.

Really? Wow.

Pablo 04-20-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 16254621)
Jay Wright retiring.

Whoa, that doesn't make sense. Hope it's not health related.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-20-2022 05:18 PM

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/sta...xyNvatq7LNMBsg

Pablo 04-20-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 16254628)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Fordham&#39;s Kyle Neptune is expected to be Jay Wright&#39;s successor at Villanova. <a href="https://t.co/2v9CEGbkHi">https://t.co/2v9CEGbkHi</a></p>&mdash; Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1516917116733210624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 04-20-2022 05:32 PM

Gotta be either a health issue or scandal coming out.

No doubt who the top coach is now though.

Kiimo 04-20-2022 05:56 PM

Kyle Neptune sounds like Elroy Jetson's best friend

KC_Connection 04-21-2022 12:33 AM

Jay Wright retiring wasn't the college basketball news I expected to see today. The gulf between Self and everyone else just got even larger.

SithCeNtZ 04-21-2022 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 16254396)
Is this true? I thought there was some theory about Cam Martin realizing he couldn't play at this level so wanted to redshirt last year and transfer out for his last season.

Has there ever been a single case of someone redshirting their (first) senior year and still being any level of productive player? Other than medical redshirt obviously.

He only has one year of eligibility left and if he transfers again he has to sit out a year. He's going to be on the team unless he decides to stop playing.

SithCeNtZ 04-21-2022 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16254623)
Whoa, that doesn't make sense. Hope it's not health related.

I think it makes more sense than people want to believe. Wright built his program on solid 4 year guys with a dash of high recruits here and there. With NIL and the portal, winning with culture just isn't a reality anymore. To be a top team you have to be recruiting well AND be competing on the transfer portal AND working out big NIL deals. Kansas gets Remy and UK gets Oscar and other elite teams keep adding new guys every year to just reload. That's never been Novas style. Kansas has an entire department dedicated to getting NIL stuff and promoting guys. It doesn't surprise me if he just thought to himself that this isn't the same game I coached even 5 years ago and I don't want a part in it.

HC_Chief 04-21-2022 06:06 AM

Coaching at that level comes with an obscene amount of pressure. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he just had enough. He built fantastic teams, won a pair of championships, is highly regarded and respected, and positively impacted hundreds of players and coaches, plus thousands/millions of fans.

It also wouldn't surprise me to see him back in coaching or in a booth commenting on the game. Guys like that, with that level of passion and drive and love for the game & team, never truly walk away. He'll probably author some books on teamwork, leadership, and his experience(s).

For now, I hope he takes some time off and relaxes. He has earned it. Good for him. Jay Wright is a helluva coach and a genuinely likable guy.


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