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LoneWolf 05-30-2013 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9718873)
George's first rule of order. Every inning you don't hit a home run I have to take a drink.
George's second rule of order. Pine tar, bitches. You can never use too much pine tar.

Reaper16 05-30-2013 11:34 AM
Seriously though, when it all goes down soon please keep the Latin America scouts.

TLO 05-30-2013 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9718873)
George's first rule of order. Every inning you don't hit a home run I have to take a drink.
:LOL:

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 11:44 AM
Didn't know Brett drank

seaofred 05-30-2013 11:46 AM
I really don't know how I feel about this move. Excited to see Brett in the dugout everyday, but I am worried it will fail.

TLO 05-30-2013 11:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9718873)
George's first rule of order. Every inning you don't hit a home run I have to take a drink.
:LOL:

DeezNutz 05-30-2013 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9718883)
So, I get why they needed to make a change with the hitting coaches, but seriously, George Brett?

George is great in the Spring to encourage and help out when needed - figure head/spokes model type. He is NOT ever going to be a great coach of any kind. It's not in his makeup. He loved playing baseball, but he does not like coaching it. This is just ****ing stupid, and makes the Royals look desperate....................okay, I guess that they are desperate. Still. if you have broken leg, you don't take Advil to get better. You take Advil to smooth over the pain. We still haven't addressed the broken leg.
Yep.

Brett's here, legitimate, and sensible for a quick band-aid. But it's such a transparent move in so many ways that it's not even funny.

gblowfish 05-30-2013 11:54 AM
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Here's is yesterday's Rex Hudler Turd Polishing condensed from 25 minutes to 2 minutes:

ChiTown 05-30-2013 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9718946)
Yep.

Brett's here, legitimate, and sensible for a quick band-aid. But it's such a transparent move in so many ways that it's not even funny.
I guess Royals management and ownership are just assuming their fan base is made up of suckers and reeruns. You know, they may be on to something there.....

WhawhaWhat 05-30-2013 11:56 AM
Jeremy Guthrie ‏@TheRealJGuts
@GeorgeHBrett Welcome aboard George, you have 6 hours to help me maintain my .500 batting average.

siberian khatru 05-30-2013 12:01 PM
Jeremy Guthrie ‏@TheRealJGuts 7m
@GeorgeHBrett Welcome aboard George, you have 6 hours to help me maintain my .500 batting average. #Royals #KingGeorge

duncan_idaho 05-30-2013 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9718946)
Yep.

Brett's here, legitimate, and sensible for a quick band-aid. But it's such a transparent move in so many ways that it's not even funny.
Yes. Desperation move.

It sounds like the reason they promoted the other guy is to teach what Brett directs.

Basically, Brett is the department head outlining the structure of the program and determining the course of study. The flunky is the teacher tasked with delivering it to the individual guys.

duncan_idaho 05-30-2013 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9718959)
I guess Royals management and ownership are just assuming their fan base is made up of suckers and reeruns. You know, they may be on to something there.....
Well, they've seen how easily the folks across the parking lot have pulled the wool over the eyes of the local fanbase, so why not?

siberian khatru 05-30-2013 12:06 PM
All that ****ing weasel Dayton Moore does is keep trying to buy himself time.

ChiTown 05-30-2013 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9718976)
Well, they've seen how easily the folks across the parking lot have pulled the wool over the eyes of the local fanbase, so why not?
:evil:

The major difference is that the Chiefs have made the playoffs 11 times since the Royals last made it in 1985. Now, the Chiefs have only won 3 games in those playoff appearances, but at least they are getting in the mix. The Royals..............not so ****ing much.

Prison Bitch 05-30-2013 12:12 PM
Why would any employee NOT claim he needs more time? Everyone wants unlimited time.

BigCatDaddy 05-30-2013 12:13 PM
Do you think this adds any accountability? I'm sure nobody wants to be that guy that pisses off George where as they could give a **** about Yost.

Demonpenz 05-30-2013 12:16 PM
I bet Glass new how tight Moose and Hosmer were going to be this year and firmly placed a lump of coal up their asses

ChiTown 05-30-2013 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9718999)
Do you think this adds any accountability? I'm sure nobody wants to be that guy that pisses off George where as they could give a **** about Yost.
The players LOVE Yost. He doesn't hold ANYONE accountable on this team, except hitting coaches.

gblowfish 05-30-2013 12:18 PM
I hope this team doesn't make GB poop himself again....

Demonpenz 05-30-2013 12:18 PM
I do like the fact they are trying to get George on the bench before he is in his 70's

WhawhaWhat 05-30-2013 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9718958)
Here's is yesterday's Rex Hudler Turd Polishing condensed from 25 minutes to 2 minutes:
Butthurt is strong here.

OmahaChief 05-30-2013 12:21 PM
Great...now the two reeruns that were effin up our MLB hitters are giong to pollute our already sucky minor league guys. These clowns have no business in the organization at all.

WhawhaWhat 05-30-2013 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmahaChief (Post 9719009)
Great...now the two reeruns that were effin up our MLB hitters are giong to pollute our already sucky minor league guys. These clowns have no business in the organization at all.
You know they were already in the minors before correct?

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-30-2013 12:25 PM
Not to be a dick, but the hitting coach's ML success, or lack thereof, is completely irrelevant to how much they know about hitting and how well they can understand and communicate necessary changes to the hitters.

Great players often make the worst coaches. Hal McRae is probably the worst hitting coach the Cardinals have had in this century, yet he was far and away the best hitter.

I don't see a reason why Brett wouldn't work as a hitting coach, but to bring up his success as a player compared to the coaches you just demoted is not the reason why he'll work if he does.

ChiTown 05-30-2013 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmahaChief (Post 9719009)
Great...now the two reeruns that were effin up our MLB hitters are giong to pollute our already sucky minor league guys. These clowns have no business in the organization at all.
Our approach with our Minor League prospects is ****ing garbage. I think that's pretty ****ing obvious at this point. I wish we invested in better coaching and instructing at these levels.

gblowfish 05-30-2013 12:42 PM
I'm so happy for George, I could SING!
http://tinyurl.com/l4hg2lf

Bowser 05-30-2013 12:56 PM
Hey look, it's the inevitable panic move, but they wrapped it up in a neat little PR package to give appearances that they really do care!

This team can't even **** shit up properly.

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 12:58 PM
Desperate GMDM move is desperate.

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 01:00 PM
Desperate HMDM move is desperate

Dartgod 05-30-2013 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9718958)
Here's is yesterday's Rex Hudler Turd Polishing condensed from 25 minutes to 2 minutes:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attac...9&d=1369867603

Fairplay 05-30-2013 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9718883)
So, I get why they needed to make a change with the hitting coaches, but seriously, George Brett?

George is great in the Spring to encourage and help out when needed - figure head/spokes model type. He is NOT ever going to be a great coach of any kind. It's not in his makeup. He loved playing baseball, but he does not like coaching it. This is just ****ing stupid, and makes the Royals look desperate....................okay, I guess that they are desperate. Still. if you have broken leg, you don't take Advil to get better. You take Advil to smooth over the pain. We still haven't addressed the broken leg.
I agree.

They needed to do something. I can't see Brett doing to daily grind of coaching very long.

Lex Luthor 05-30-2013 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9718695)
Alright, I'll dive in with a GM hire.

You ready?

Ready to laugh?

Rany Jazayerli.

I know of nobody who has both the PASSION to see the Royals win AND the mind to make it happen. The guy is a baseball savant. He has a clear vision of what an organization needs to do from top to bottom. He's absolutely dialed in at all levels, and well, why the hell not?
The Red Sox started winning when they hired Bill James. But they didn't hire him to be GM, because being a GM requires a lot of other things besides Sabermetrics.

I think it would be great to hire Rany as Director of Player Personnel or some similar role. It would be bad idea to ask him to run the entire organization.

GloryDayz 05-30-2013 01:36 PM
Did the asshole get fired yet?

GloryDayz 05-30-2013 01:38 PM
How 'bout now, did the asshole get fired yet?

Lex Luthor 05-30-2013 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9719139)
Did the asshole get fired yet?
No.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9719141)
How 'bout now, did the asshole get fired yet?
Still no.

GloryDayz 05-30-2013 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9719150)
No.


Still no.
Shit!

Bowser 05-30-2013 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9719141)
How 'bout now, did the asshole get fired yet?
You're going to have to be more specific. Which asshole?

ChiTown 05-30-2013 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9719163)
You're going to have to be more specific. Which asshole?
Yes

siberian khatru 05-30-2013 01:53 PM
Interesting interview with Seitzer on 810 right now.

Re: Hos -- Said last year he killed the ball in spring training and started the season smoking the ball, but hitting it right at people (we all remember this). He said for the first month and a half he was on his knees pleading with Hos to stick with it, the hits would eventually fall. But he said Hos eventually caved and wouldn't listen anymore -- "I lost him," Seitzer said -- and changed his swing and screwed everything up. And that's where he is today.

Discuss Thrower 05-30-2013 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9719191)
Interesting interview with Seitzer on 810 right now.

Re: Hos -- Said last year he killed the ball in spring training and started the season smoking the ball, but hitting it right at people (we all remember this). He said for the first month and a half he was on his knees pleading with Hos to stick with it, the hits would eventually fall. But he said Hos eventually caved and wouldn't listen anymore -- "I lost him," Seitzer said -- and changed his swing and screwed everything up. And that's where he is today.
Mother**** you .... someone?

Tytanium 05-30-2013 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9719134)
The Red Sox started winning when they hired Bill James. But they didn't hire him to be GM, because being a GM requires a lot of other things besides Sabermetrics.

I think it would be great to hire Rany as Director of Player Personnel or some similar role. It would be bad idea to ask him to run the entire organization.
I have to agree. Rany would be an excellent scout/scout director, but I think he's said himself he doesn't have the business know-how to feel like he would be able to competently handle player contracts and the business side of a major league team.

Discuss Thrower 05-30-2013 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tytanium (Post 9719258)
I have to agree. Rany would be an excellent scout/scout director, but I think he's said himself he doesn't have the business know-how to feel like he would be able to competently handle player contracts and the business side of a major league team.
Hey, the Royals could be a trendsetter for being the first MLB club to have a Middle Easterner that high in the FO, right?

Tytanium 05-30-2013 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9719191)
Interesting interview with Seitzer on 810 right now.

Re: Hos -- Said last year he killed the ball in spring training and started the season smoking the ball, but hitting it right at people (we all remember this). He said for the first month and a half he was on his knees pleading with Hos to stick with it, the hits would eventually fall. But he said Hos eventually caved and wouldn't listen anymore -- "I lost him," Seitzer said -- and changed his swing and screwed everything up. And that's where he is today.
I'm waiting for it to pop up on their website, but that just makes it more frustrating. Hos really was killing it to start the season last year, his BABIP was just insanely, frustratingly unlucky. Seitzer didn't do anything wrong, I don't think.

Bowser 05-30-2013 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tytanium (Post 9719272)
I'm waiting for it to pop up on their website, but that just makes it more frustrating. Hos really was killing it to start the season last year, his BABIP was just insanely, frustratingly unlucky. Seitzer didn't do anything wrong, I don't think.
The funny part is that it would seem like Seitzer got canned in part for Hos not hitting for power, then this year they have two guys that tried to emphasize NOT hitting for power as the batting coaches.

Sure-Oz 05-30-2013 02:31 PM
Juan Francisco DFA'd by Braves....future Royal?

CaliforniaChief 05-30-2013 02:35 PM
Fair enough. I think the Royals would greatly benefit from having Rany at the table with his insight/perspective.

Alright, Paul DePodesta as GM, Rany on the leadership team as a consultant, and whoever they want to hire as manager.

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9719300)
Fair enough. I think the Royals would greatly benefit from having Rany at the table with his insight/perspective.

Alright, Paul DePodesta as GM, Rany on the leadership team as a consultant, and whoever they want to hire as manager.
Seitzer as manager?

CaliforniaChief 05-30-2013 02:44 PM
I could roll with a bunch of names. I just know that De Podesta got screwed by the McCourt's in LA...smart, young, still hungry...and same frame of thinking as Rany. I would trust them to find a manager who knows how to put a lineup together and manage pitching.

I would love to see Dave Righetti get a long look.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dave-...the-hrfb-rate/

Bowser 05-30-2013 02:45 PM
How hard do the other managers laugh at David Glass after Glass leaves a conference room at the owner's meetings?

ChiTown 05-30-2013 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9719318)
Seitzer as manager?
NO

GloryDayz 05-30-2013 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9719163)
You're going to have to be more specific. Which asshole?
Yes..

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9719329)
NO
Throwing out names. Got a name?

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9719344)
Yes..
LMAO

BigRedChief 05-30-2013 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9718856)
Desperate and meaningless move is desperate and meaningless.

Wake me when DM is fired.
It does seem that your issue is drafting and developing talent, not getting a new hitting coach.

Hiring Brett means someday firing Brett. Maybe Frank White type hurt feelings occur. That would be a real tragedy.

ChiTown 05-30-2013 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9719345)
Throwing out names. Got a name?
No, but I know what won't work, and it's not Seitzer, Brett, White, etc. We need a guy that is interested in winning, and not just "protecting and developing the young guys". We need an ass kicker that expects us to win, and not be surprised by it.

DeezNutz 05-30-2013 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9719356)
It does seem that your issue is drafting and developing talent, not getting a new hitting coach.

Hiring Brett means someday firing Brett. Maybe Frank White type hurt feelings occur. That would be a real tragedy.
It would indeed mean that were the move a "permanent" one. Not the case here. This is DM desperately trying to buy time to ensure that he gets to try to hire one more manager.

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9719359)
No, but I know what won't work, and it's not Seitzer, Brett, White, etc. We need a guy that is interested in winning, and not just "protecting and developing the young guys". We need an ass kicker that expects us to win, and not be surprised by it.
Couldn't agree more. Accountability.

gblowfish 05-30-2013 03:00 PM
I think I know what's wrong with the Royals coaching. They're only allowed to work 36 hours a week. See, they're not allowed to go over 40, because then, Wal-Mart would have to pay their health and dental insurance.

So our players don't get as much instruction as other teams do.

It's that simple.

Oh, and watch for Ned to show up in some Emergency Room with an ulcer, on the taxpayer's dime!

ChiTown 05-30-2013 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9719360)
It would indeed mean that were the move a "permanent" one. Not the case here. This is DM desperately trying to buy time to ensure that he gets to try to hire one more manager.
He shouldn't be allowed to some much as hire the new towel boy in the visiting team's locker room. He's failed at everything he's done in his Royal's tenure (okay, that's an exaggeration, but you get the point). He came in here taking over a last place team, and that is where we will most likely finish this year - year 7 of his shit tenure.

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 03:02 PM
7 years of GMDM have brought us.... No where.

CaliforniaChief 05-30-2013 03:05 PM
My list to interview would include:

Dave Righetti
Matt Williams
Kevin Seitzer
Frank White
Jim Riggleman

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 03:08 PM
Who's gonna do the game thread?

ChiTown 05-30-2013 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9719387)
Who's gonna do the game thread?
Let's let the Card's fans do the GT. It's not like it would bring any worse luck than what we are currently accustomed to. Ugh........

DeezNutz 05-30-2013 03:19 PM
Throwback lineup tonight: Lough hitting in the 3 hole with Hosmer at cleanup.

LMAO.

stonedstooge 05-30-2013 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9719377)
7 years of GMDM have brought us.... No where.
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BigCatDaddy 05-30-2013 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9719417)
Throwback lineup tonight: Lough hitting in the 3 hole with Hosmer at cleanup.

LMAO.
4realz?

ChiTown 05-30-2013 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9719417)
Throwback lineup tonight: Lough hitting in the 3 hole with Hosmer at cleanup.

LMAO.
Ho-Lee-Sheeeeit!

That is 12 shades of ****ed up:LOL:

BlackHelicopters 05-30-2013 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9719426)
Ho-Lee-Sheeeeit!

That is 12 shades of ****ed up:LOL:
Try anything

DeezNutz 05-30-2013 03:23 PM
Per 810, that's the lineup.

Good to see that the Brett-era begins looking legit. We might as well take that 5 down at the K, putting it back up with clown colors.

stonedstooge 05-30-2013 03:26 PM
I'm pissed that Getz isn't batting clean-up

GloryDayz 05-30-2013 03:26 PM
Are any of the azzhole **** faces fired yet?

FringeNC 05-30-2013 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9718847)
DePodesta didn't give them permission to use him.
An example of why Chiefsplanet is great. The percentage of sports fans that I would verbally converse with knowing that? Approximately zero.

SPchief 05-30-2013 03:46 PM
"Out of frustration" Brett on taking the position

SPchief 05-30-2013 03:48 PM
If anything, George is gonna give us some good sound bytes out of this.

ChiTown 05-30-2013 03:49 PM
Sounds really convicted..."I'm gonna give it a try.." "I'm scared to death"

:LOL:

DeezNutz 05-30-2013 03:49 PM
Dayton called and asked what I thought and I said, "Uhhhh....."

CaliforniaChief 05-30-2013 03:50 PM
George looks like he's ready to throw the table over. LMAO

I love his style.

ChiTown 05-30-2013 03:50 PM
"Hoping to stay on at least a month"..you can't make this shit up.LMAO

DeezNutz 05-30-2013 03:50 PM
I'll be here at least a month. Next manager might as well use the same quotation.


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