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TEX 08-09-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17048781)
There is no deadline. Jones is under contract, that's why he will most likely report by Sunday. He has no real leverage from a financial standpoint. If he holds out he will never recoup the money he lost and if he doesn't report before games, including Sunday's preseason game, the real fines start at over $1 million a game. He is crazy not to take the $65+ mil money the Chiefs are most likely offering. This is why he will report by Sunday.

Yes, but dont need any malcontents.

TwistedChief 08-09-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17048842)
Yes, but dont need any malcontents.

As it relates to this season, I'd prefer a malcontent Jones to no Jones at all.

Red Dawg 08-09-2023 08:53 AM

Are you willing to lose Creed and Bolton to pay Jones his price? I wouldn't and neither will veach

O.city 08-09-2023 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17048799)
They knew what he would most likely end up signing for and are fine with it. Jones is not getting $29m+ a year, again, he has little to no leverage. While his holdout would hurt the Chiefs, it would be a disastrous decision for Jones financially. So there are two options: 1. he plays this year under the current contract and the Chiefs can decide to tag or trade next year, and they restructure another players contract to free up some marginal cap space. 2. Jones signs an extension. I'm fine with either.

You guys can keep saying Jones has little to no leverage. Doesn't make it true

The Chiefs know they need the guy to win SB's. That's ultimately, their goal.

They can't tag him next year, 33 million dollar bomb on the cap all at once pretty much takes them out of signing any free agents.

It's basically either sign an extension, or let him play out the year then walk.

RunKC 08-09-2023 09:06 AM

Back-to-back DE's in the first rd last 2 years and signed Omenihu who is one of the leagues better interior rushers.

It's almost as if Veach planned for this possibility. Next season if you have to trade Chris then those 3 are still there with money opened up in FA plus trade asserts to keep adding to the DL.

TEX 08-09-2023 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17048864)
As it relates to this season, I'd prefer a malcontent Jones to no Jones at all.

That makes sense, but I wouldn't. I dont deal well in any arena with folks showing up that dont want to be there. At some point it goes toxic. Now, if he could manage to show with no ill will, Im with ya.

saphojunkie 08-09-2023 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17048884)
You guys can keep saying Jones has little to no leverage. Doesn't make it true

The Chiefs know they need the guy to win SB's. That's ultimately, their goal.

They can't tag him next year, 33 million dollar bomb on the cap all at once pretty much takes them out of signing any free agents.

It's basically either sign an extension, or let him play out the year then walk.

You keep saying this. It keeps being wrong.

TEX 08-09-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17048914)
You keep saying this. It keeps being wrong.

How is it wrong? :shrug:

saphojunkie 08-09-2023 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17048920)
How is it wrong? :shrug:

you think the only way the chiefs win a SB is with Chris Jones? you think he's the fundamental requirement? You think if they extend Chris Jones at whatever price and he reports to camp and is on IR by week 3... they should tank? Because it's hopeless?

Mecca 08-09-2023 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17048884)
You guys can keep saying Jones has little to no leverage. Doesn't make it true

The Chiefs know they need the guy to win SB's. That's ultimately, their goal.

They can't tag him next year, 33 million dollar bomb on the cap all at once pretty much takes them out of signing any free agents.

It's basically either sign an extension, or let him play out the year then walk.

What leverage does he have?

If he sits in actual games he losses a ton of money and will leave huge question marks as to what he'll be on a new contract. He'll also be 30 at that point, if a 30 year old DT sat out of games and halfassed it when he returned he wouldn't get paid..by anyone at least not at the level he wants.

It's a non issue right now because he has to report before the season and play his ass off...also this idea that if this is his last year here the Chiefs run at SB's is over is really laughable. I'm sure the Chiefs are a bigger SB contender if they lose several young ascending players because 33 year old Chris Jones is making 30 mill a year.

-King- 08-09-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17048926)
you think the only way the chiefs win a SB is with Chris Jones? you think he's the fundamental requirement? You think if they extend Chris Jones at whatever price and he reports to camp and is on IR by week 3... they should tank? Because it's hopeless?

Yes Chris Jones is A fundamental part of this team.

In what world is the best player on your defense by far not a fundamental part of the team?

saphojunkie 08-09-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17048931)
What leverage does he have?

If he sits in actual games he losses a ton of money and will leave huge question marks as to what he'll be on a new contract. He'll also be 30 at that point, if a 30 year old DT sat out of games and halfassed it when he returned he wouldn't get paid..by anyone at least not at the level he wants.

It's a non issue right now because he has to report before the season and play his ass off...also this idea that if this is his last year here the Chiefs run at SB's is over is really laughable. I'm sure the Chiefs are a bigger SB contender if they lose several young ascending players because 33 year old Chris Jones is making 30 mill a year.

Bro without Chris Jones Mahomes will be lucky to throw 15 touchdowns all season long.

saphojunkie 08-09-2023 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17048939)
Yes Chris Jones is A fundamental part of this team.

In what world is the best player on your defense by far not a fundamental part of the team?

lol you guys are amazing

saphojunkie 08-09-2023 09:53 AM

let me put this more simply...

The Chiefs can lose any single player except Mahomes. There is only ONE irreplaceable player on this team, and he doesn't play defense.

If the Chiefs lose Chris Jones, their super bowl odds won't change.

-King- 08-09-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17048944)
lol you guys are amazing

I don't see how that's even debatable. There's no team where the 3rd best player on the team and best player by far on defense isn't fundamental to the team winning a championship.


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