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RunKC 10-31-2016 07:50 AM

Nick Foles reminds me of 2015 Brock Osweiler. Big arm, not really that mobile, can't do the small things well. He's in a good system with a good coach helping him succeed.

Molitoth 10-31-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12518940)
Andy Reid knows what he is doing when it comes to QBs.. He knows more about that position than anyone posting on this message board. He has a proven track record when it comes to that position.

If Foles was better than Alex then Reid would start him. Period.

Starting Alex Smith is a Safe move on your coaching career.
Alex does anything to avoid that INT stat. He won't take chances and he will bore the shit out the viewers, BUT he will do just enough not to lose and he will keep your team at a mediocre status that will keep you around.


Foles will take chances and let his playmakers make plays. It most likely will come with more interceptions over time, but it could also take the offense to an elite status.

If Foles starts throwing INTs and losing games, Reids paycheck will suffer from it. I think Reid starts Alex Smith because he is not much of a gambler.

Sandy Vagina 10-31-2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12519030)
Starting Alex Smith is a Safe move on your coaching career.
Alex does anything to avoid that INT stat. He won't take chances and he will bore the shit out the viewers, BUT he will do just enough not to lose and he will keep your team at a mediocre status that will keep you around.


Foles will take chances and let his playmakers make plays. It most likely will come with more interceptions over time, but it could also take the offense to an elite status.

If Foles starts throwing INTs and losing games, Reids paycheck will suffer from it. I think Reid starts Alex Smith because he is not much of a gambler.

Keep your team at mediocre? Plenty enough flaws about Smith, but how have the Chiefs been mediocre over this 4 yr stretch? Wouldn't mediocre be a consistent 8 win team?

Could be just a play on words, but KC teams have been better than mediocre with Smith at QB. The big hangup with them has been injuries to key players, and at the worst of times.

Mav 10-31-2016 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 12518978)
Correct, they're done in the WC or 1st round with Smith. Once Justin and Aldon Smith went down, that defense wasn't good enough to carry Alex anymore.



False. But okay.

Sandy Vagina 10-31-2016 07:59 AM

Nobody here should give a shit about this old, recycled 49ers talk. :facepalm:

Mav 10-31-2016 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 12519019)
Just saying, they did more once Alex was on the bench/gone. They didn't fall apart when he was benched. His astonishing winning would of stopped too as the talent on that team diminished.



Actually, at the time Alex got hurt the 49ers were playing the best football seen in awhile. What you're forgetting is that for the rest of the season the read option was en vogue. Hell even rg3 looked like a god. It took one off-season and the NFL adjusted and the 49ers quickly fell into nothingness.

rico 10-31-2016 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12519008)
I'm curious as to whether Alex would want to start again. Smart dude, family man, already set for life. He should seriously think about retiring today. Would be a shame to have all of those gigabytes go to shit when he's not even in his mid-30's.

Some might consider it being a quitter, but I don't feel we have the right to judge the decision. It's a violent sport, and each person has the right to say enough's enough.

At any rate, Mrs Smith is happy... Mr Smith will quickly learn to be happy. All the haters happy. No more need for the Smith Wars. I can chuckle at the incoming excuses for the next QB(s). Win-win.

See what happens with Foles. He may turn out great.. or there could be a twisted and tragic irony around the corner.

Be smart, Alex. Find better things to do.


You always become so dramatic and butthurt.

Sandy Vagina 10-31-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12519046)
You always become so dramatic and butthurt.

well this is one way to twist things.. what is dramatic or hurt about what I said?

Tribal Warfare 10-31-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 12519046)
You always become so dramatic and butthurt.

Alex only fans, they'll leave BB once Alex is gone. It's another reason that Foles is a welcomed addition.

JohnV 10-31-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 12519044)
Actually, at the time Alex got hurt the 49ers were playing the best football seen in awhile. What you're forgetting is that for the rest of the season the read option was en vogue. Hell even rg3 looked like a god. It took one off-season and the NFL adjusted and the 49ers quickly fell into nothingness.

The offense was never better than it was in the 2012 playoffs. Blame it on the RO not being figured out or what have you but that was it's height, period. And they fell into nothingness when they fired Harbaugh. They still made a deep playoff run after the 2012 season.

chiefzilla1501 10-31-2016 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12519026)
Nick Foles reminds me of 2015 Brock Osweiler. Big arm, not really that mobile, can't do the small things well. He's in a good system with a good coach helping him succeed.

Osweiler has become a check down champion. He is the Matt cassel version of Nick foles. Foles will miss a few because of inaccuracy or not getting through his progressions fast enough. But he's a much more aggressive qb than brock. Brock has been an utter disaster for a team that has tons of offensive talent

New World Order 10-31-2016 08:47 AM

Why is this even a debate? Alex is 18th in ypg and 22nd in touchdowns.

This team can win with another solid starter. It doesn't need a 70 million dollar game manager.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-31-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12519026)
Nick Foles reminds me of 2015 Brock Osweiler. Big arm, not really that mobile, can't do the small things well. He's in a good system with a good coach helping him succeed.

This

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-31-2016 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromatic (Post 12518876)
Same play, different QBs.

Reid seems to love that play.

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Smith threw it better

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-31-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12518858)
So the "best throw of the day" resulted in...absolutely nothing.

JFC

Ditto


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