I disagree. If the PAC 12 wanted to expand, they could right now and pick from what remains of the Big 12. If they chose a couple of schools, they could work it like a UT/OU thing. The Big 12 is on life support right now with only the slightest chance to expand. If a couple of teams were willing to jump ship for another conference, the Big 12 would all but cease to exist which would eliminate the exit fees. At this point no school will remain loyal to the Big 12 and will jump at the best offer they get. With the PAC 12 having the best of what's left they can use that to negotiate their new deal in a few years. If they waited they risk getting the leftovers of the leftovers.

Please pull up, thread.


I really really don't want some Rupp Rafters idiotic conference argument to mosey on over

Bullshit. They will stick with that track and field abomination look. They are too basketball poor to invest in football. Hell, look at the dump barn they shoot hoops in

LMAO

You can disagree all you want, but you’re wrong. The PAC can’t just add 2-4 schools and the Big12 will cease to exist. Sure, in the long run it will. Or they expand and keep it alive even if it gets demoted from P5 later. The Big12 is around until it’s voted to dissolve by 3/4 vote. Right now 6/8 schools have to vote to dissolve it. Texas and Oklahoma lost their votes when the served the Big12 their notice to leave for the SEC. If those two want to leave early, it’s $80 mil per each school, and that’s not even factoring in the Big12 still owns their rights through 2025. The other Big12 schools can’t afford that, and there is literally zero reason for the other conferences to extend invites 3 years in advance without seeing what happens with Texas and Oklahoma first. The only way it comes this soon is if every school has a home, because if it gets leaked early and two Big12 schools are left out before the conference is officially dissolved, all 8 schools would owe those two a lot of money this early in the contract.

They need to add BYU and Boise State (with the requirement of changing the field), and then UCF and Houston (if the Texas schools will allow it) or Cincinnati (if they won’t). It’s not perfect. But it has potential.

Obviously I’m holding out hope the other conferences choose to expand in the next few years, but worst case scenario the Big12 expands.

Amazon has reached out to the Big12 about picking up their media rights. But they want the Big12 to expand to 14-16 schools. They are in a position where media foot print doesn’t matter, like it did to the B1G the last round. They just want fanbases/streamers. They can make a ton of money from advertising their own products of said schools and making the sale on shirts and what not. They also want more sports fans subscribing because they are picking up Thursday night football, and now trying for Sunday Ticket.

But to get to 14, I’d add BYU, Cincinnati, UCF, Houston, Memphis, and Cincinnati.

The crazy part is that’s suddenly the most competitive conference. Other than Kansas, there’s a lot of good football teams. And there’s no Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State to just run the table most years. It wouldn’t have the top 1-2 schools that every other conference has, but outside that top to bottom it’s better. Unfortunately to the media the top school is what makes a conference.

Gotta get Cinci in there twice for good measure.

I'd add them a third time just to be safe. They produced Kelce so that's good enough for me.

He's just a little bitter because mutt hoops has to play at the Columbia YMCA to fill it up.

You put Cincinnati twice. Who’s your sixth?

I’m a BYU guy, so I’d love to see them get their foot in the door. I’d love expansion by six. I’m not a fan of Memphis. But I suppose it could make regional sense. Colorado State could be good, projecting into the future. There are good things going on there. But it wouldn’t get anyone excited now.

Probably Boise State.

Hopefully they get a sweet TV deal. That would be killer on travel. That was always a concern when they added WVU. Now if they added BYU, Boise State, and UCF? That would be rough to say the least. I guess at this point they need to as those are the biggest fish left.

Lol whoops, meant Boise St. but another Cincinnati would be fine too.

That’s the big unknown. Obviously Amazon can pay more than anyone, and are known to overpay to get what they want. Obviously they won’t make the Big12 the highest paid, I’m just hoping for relatively close to where we are now.

In the grand scheme I think this is a test for Amazon, where in the next wave of media contracts they try to take on as much of college football as they can, and same with NFL.