Thanks. I hope Mizzou goes to the Big Ten too because it would be nice to be able to see Nebraska play in person. It's a bitch trying to get tickets to a Nebraska game in Lincoln. If Mizzou does come along I hope they get along.I don't want them to look like that new couple fighting infront of everyone.

as a Wolverine fan its cool to see more teams and new rivalries be born! I just hope all these changes will lead to a playoff system with the playoff games sponsored.

I hope Missouri gets ****ed straight in the ass. Also Nebraska will NEVER be relevant in football or basketball. Tom osbourne sucks too much cock
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Tom Osborne's song

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:spock: I'll agree with you on the bascketball but football is another :spock:

PAC 10 West:

USC
UCLA
Stanford
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon St.
California

PAC 10 East:

Kansas
Texas
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Arizona
Arizona St.
Texas Tech


One word............




























Leet

In

Big 10 West:

Iowa
Nebraska
Missouri
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Michigan
Michigan St.
Illinois

Big 10 East:

Indiana
Penn St.
Ohio St.
Purdue
Syracuse
Rutgers
Notre Dame
Northwestern



good, but second tier

SEC West:

Alabama
Arkansas
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi St.
Ole Miss
Vanderbilt
Texas A&M

SEC East:

Florida
Florida St.
Miami
Tennessee
South Carolina
Kentucky
Georgia
Georgia Tech

Honestly, that's all that matters in the Big 10.

ACC North:

Boston College
Duke
Maryland
Connecticut
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Louisville
Cincinnati

ACC South:

Clemson
North Carolina
North Carolina St.
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
South Florida
Kansas St.

Iowa St., Baylor are unfortunately out...

In

Swap KU and KSU.

I agree

It is extremely unlikely that Miami gets an invite to the SEC. It's most likely a combination of Texas A&M, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.

Personally, I'd prefer the SEC add A&M and VT and call it a day at 14 teams. Still better in football than any of the 16-team conferences. If they had to get to 16 then any of the remaining teams above would be ok, I guess.

It depends if the new PAC-16 gets two auto bids or not for the BCS. If they do, SEC will go to 16 faster than the Big 10 will, but I agree with you they don't need to right now. I don't know if its true or not, but I've heard initial feelers are that Va Tech isn't interested in leaving the ACC. Florida doesn't want another Florida team, but that might get overridden if FSU wants to join, but as of now FSU is luke warm to that idea as well. The general feeling is that Clemson and Ga Tech don't add a significant amount of viewers the SEC doesn't already claim with S. Carolina and Georgia. That's why A&M is someone they want, and they might be willing to add one more to round out the conference. The desire is to add new territory to the SEC and if neither of the big Virginia schools are interested, your most likely candidates are Maryland and Missouri.

One problem, Notre Dame is not joining a conference.

I agree that A&M would be a big get. As far as VT, what I've heard is it's the same deal as KU/KSU and UT/A&M in that VT/UVA might be a package deal. I'd be ok with adding both of them, A&M and then either FSU/Clemson/Ga Tech.

The Pac-10 wont get 2 auto-bids unless 4 16-team conferences are formed. They especially wont get 2 auto-bids as a 16-team conference with no conference championship game. Talk about a big group of 16 pansy schools scared to have a true conference champ.

The big problem is that the Big Ten, and the Pac 10 are going to try to hard to look like they aren't doing anything wrong. In this game there are not going to be any good guys, and the finger pointing is going to be pointless. Many fans, and media are going to dwell on what will turn out wrong on these deals. The Big Ten started this, but is going to try to blame Mizzou, Colorado, and/or the Pac 10. The Pac 10 will turn around, and try to blame the Big Ten. The Big Ten will then try to blame Notre Dame. I think these are the reasons that this is just starting instead of just wrapping up. The Big East, and The Big XII are the newer Leagues, and I know that is just in legal terms. There was a Big Eight that added an even larger Texas Four. There were a group of indies that play one another for years, and most of them just decided that it would be for the best to come together as a new league. There are going to be enough angry people around to look for someone to blame. The Two Tens will try to say that it was the other one. The Big Ten could be the Con that gets messed over the most. They will pretend that they care as they sit in a backroom counting all of the money. The SEC, and ACC do not care, and can make the most out of al of this. They can say that they were just trying to protect themselves. Notre Dame doesn't have to join up with anyone. They could earn more if they did. Notre Dame, and Texas want to be the largest rooster in the coop that they are in. I think that is why Texas would like nothing to do with the SEC. They would have way too much competition from Florida, and others. It would make the most sense for the two larger Tex Schools, and the OK Schools to just make the jump to the SEC. It would make the most sense if the main BCS Leagues would just raid all of the minor ones. Instead they are going to cause so many problems by going after one another. I am just going to follow it, enjoy it, and laugh when all of the crying starts.

I'm not saying they will or they won't, I'm just relating what has being bandied about. The argument is based on numbers, not whether or not one has a championship game. The argument is a 16 team mega conference has enough member for two 8 team conferences and with the dissolution of one of the automatic qualifying conferences, that bid should go to the conference that assumed the majority of said conference. This is why there is all the talk of the four sixteen team super conferences, because it eventually leads to one of three conference scenarios:

A four team playoff of conference champions. The most simply but the least revenue generating.

An strait eight team playoff where the division winners of each conference get automatic invites regardless of who wins the conference championship. More revenue, but less importance placed on winning the conference title

A twelve team format, conference winners get first round byes, conference runner-ups get automatic invites leaving four at large selections (these could be non big four conferences, an independent, or even at large big four teams). This is the scenario that projects near a billion dollar windfall.

Conference networks aren't the only money generator these realignments are aiming at. A potential college football playoff system is seen as a huge windfall which is why the two invite rule for mega conferences is being brought up.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100...#ixzz0qc93mtJq

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5279018


Report: Mountain West eyes KU, Mizzou

The Mountain West Conference was a geographical misnomer from the beginning, as it launched with San Diego State among its eight original teams before adding TCU in 2005 and Boise State on Friday.

The conference's reach doesn't appear to be stopping there.

According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Kansas, Missouri and Kansas State are on the Mountain West's radar amid a continuing shakeup of the Big 12.

But Baylor isn't considered a candidate to join the conference, with TCU standing staunchly in its way, the Fort Worth newspaper reported, citing unnamed sources.

"The Mountain West wants to be a national player and continue to grow in that realm," MWC commissioner Craig Thompson said in a conference call with reporters Friday. "We are extremely interested in BCS automatic qualification. We are simply trying to get to the level where each and every year a Mountain West team is playing in a BCS bowl game."

TCU would mount a lobbying effort against Baylor if the Bears are left out of the conference-realignment mix, the Star-Telegram reported.

But the conference covets Kansas -- and its legendary basketball program.

"Look at it this way," Jayhawks coach Bill Self said Friday at a charity event, according to The Kansas City Star. "No matter what, I'm 100 percent confident we're going to land. And we may land in a group that gives us more exposure than we ever could have had before. We may land with somebody that opens up recruiting doors in areas that we never really tested before. We're not gonna lose what we already have. This may open up new avenues for us."

New avenues are assured for most -- if not all -- of the Big 12.

Colorado left Thursday for the Pac-10, Nebraska moved to the Big Ten a day later and Texas and the four other programs, not including Baylor, that make up the Big 12 South in football are leaning heavily toward a commitment to the Pac-10, or in Texas A&M's case, a possible jump to the SEC.

"We are gonna be in a BCS conference," Self said, according to the newspaper.

But count Self among those who still believe in the viability of the Big 12.

"If this league is held together," Self said, "we'll go get two teams or six teams and this league will be better than it ever has been."

LAWL.

Let's all hold hands and skip to the MWC.

The Pac-16 West idea seems decent... but I love the ACC idea. I like ONE hour earlier games, instead of 2 hour LATER games.

Plus, that ACC would be ****ing SICK

Who's coming with me?

Interesting comment I heard on a Sports show out of Cincy last night..the guy was doing a lot of assuming, but he made some sense.

He said that the Big Ten knows absolutely that they have MU in their back pocket so there is no rush to bring them in. They were more concerned with the acquisition of Nebraska, worried that if they invite MU first that NU might be courted somewhere else (Pac-10?).

His comment was that MU brings more than the East Coast teams that are being mentioned, and that they make sense on bridging the territory all the way to Neb.

He lost me when he commented the dark horse for where MU might be asked to join is as an addition to the SEC. None of what he said made any sense to me. Just sounded like a "land grab" possibility.

mmaddog
********

I hope MU goes to the Big Ten. It would be a good fit for them. I was just butthurt earlier this month, when all of the MUrons were gloating and KU didn't have a pot to piss in.

This seems to be changing, Thank God. lol.

I'd still be concerned if I were KSU, ISU and Baylor.

I hear ya. I'm hoping MU, KU, and KSU all get legit offers and go somewhere and thrive.

If I'm Baylor I am shitting myself, TCU blocking the MWC leaves CUSA and the Sun Belt as the only options on the table for them. They are in deep trouble.

whatever happened to the 'ku and ksu have to go to the same conference because it's the law' thing? was it bullshit from the beginning?

While I'm not quite as dejected/depressed/pissed off as I was yesterday (hope springs infernal), I still think MU needs to clean house and rid itself of Alden and Forsee and replace them will people who will not get comically clowned by, well, pretty much everybody.

I saw this post on the stltoday MU board, and I think it sums up the current situation. It certainly sums up the way I feel.

I really don't know... but I think the KU Board of Regents know that they need to make sure at least ONE of the Kansas schools are in a big conference.

Who really knows? This thing has been beyond cluster**** status. :grr:

im pissed ... again .....

nobody that i know of ever said it was the law, you moron

it's was and still is up to the Kansas Board of Regents

and what has changed is that people are getting desperate about either school ending up in a BCS conference.

I still think that KBOR will push for keeping KU/KSU together up to the point where neither gets in and then they will let them split up.

I think the word "brand" is way overused. I'm sick of it.

P.S. MU will be fine. And by fine, I don't mean Pac10, WAC, MW, MVC or Big East. That's my opinion, which is no better and no worse than all these conflicting reports based on anonymous sources coming out of just about every major and minor media outlet these days.

Published Saturday June 12, 2010
Shatel: As college landscape shifted, Nebraska stood at the epicenter

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LINCOLN — If Friday were a football game, you'd want to keep the program.
What a day. Whirlwind day. Important day. Historic day. Hell of a day.
One of the biggest days, if not the biggest, in University of Nebraska history.
The historians can debate that one. What can't be denied is the unmistakable feeling that Friday changed Nebraska.
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Within a breathless, mind-blowing four-hour span, Nebraska went from trying to beat out Missouri for a Big Ten invite to trying to play for the 2011 Big Ten championship.
The Board of Regents meeting. The overflow crowd. The application sent for Big Ten membership.
Four hours later, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany is strolling into the campus visitors center with the invite in hand and a red “N" pin on his suit lapel.
The “N" logo and Big Ten logo appearing side by side on a projection screen.
Matt Davison, who helped define the Big 12 with his 1997 catch at Missouri, holding a Big Ten Network microphone with a big grin on his face.
Finally, the nuptials. Do you, Nebraska, take this league to be your lawfully wedded home for the next 100 years?
I can't believe it. All the endless and maddening speculation of the last few months came to life Friday. And it was all larger than life.
Elsewhere, the landscape burned. Missouri was spurned. Texas A&M thinking Southeastern Conference. Texas and its entourage gazing westward. The Pac-10 to Pac-16? Then other leagues would answer, right? Oh, boy, here we go.
College football will never be the same, and it all seemed to start right here, with Lincoln as the epicenter for change, on a day when Big Red football would never be the same.
Goodbye, Manhattan; hello, East Lansing. Goodbye, Boulder; hello, Columbus. Goodbye, Austin; hello, Iowa City.
It was a big day, the biggest day, and nobody was bigger than Harvey Perlman and Tom Osborne.
The chancellor and athletic director/legend-at-large put on a show at the regents meeting. They laid it all out. And while they were at it, they laid out Missouri and Texas. It was powerful. It was clinical. Nebraska, eerily quiet all these weeks, finally spoke up and turned up the volume for all the Big 12 to hear.
Perlman called out Mizzou for being the one to start the expansion circus.
Osborne talked about schools in the Big 12 that were asking NU to stay and all the while selling themselves to not one, not two but three other leagues.
Perlman said the Big 12 presidents wouldn't commit to staying in the league if Colorado and Missouri both left.
And then, in a downright delicious passage, Perlman talked about calling Texas' bluff. And how he asked Texas to commit its TV rights to the Big 12 if it was serious about the league, and how Texas declined.
Brilliant, Harvey. The Steve Pederson years are now forgiven.
Then, finally, the money quote from Osborne: “One team leaving does not break up a conference. Two teams leaving does not break up a conference. Six teams leaving breaks up a conference."
Boom. They should engrave those words on a plaque, or on the side of Memorial Stadium. Maybe put them on the final Big 12 football trophy.
Nobody in the room cheered, but you got the feeling the non-journalists in the room wanted to leap to their feet and roar. Osborne and Perlman were rolling, and, for many, it was like 14 years of frustration flowing out.
Perlman dropped the bomb that NU wanted to start play in the Big Ten in 2011 — one year before the other Big 12 exiles would join the Pac-10. He said he didn't think financial penalties from the Big 12 were appropriate. But who's going to be left in the Big 12 to collect the money anyway?
Finally, Nebraska was calling the shots and dictating terms on its way out the door, all the while pulling down the façade on Texas' Big 12 loyalty. You could hear the ovations from Alliance to Auburn. Even those not on board with this move had to be nodding approval.
Meanwhile, Delany backed up his newest chancellor at the 5 p.m. press conference, saying that one team leaving shouldn't level a conference and that the Big Ten had done fine with 10 teams, then 11. So now even the Big Ten commish was calling Texas' bluff.
The future of the old Big 12 is in the rear-view mirror. Nebraska was quick to look ahead, and suddenly it was OK to talk about an Iowa rivalry and recruiting in the Big Ten and how many times John Cook's dynasty will be on the Big Ten Network.
Save for Bo Pelini, the Ohio State Buckeye, who, when asked about the move, said he's “not an emotional guy.” So Bo will be the same Bo in the new league as the old.
The lack of emotion toward the old Big Eight ties was the one downside to this day. It should not be taken lightly.
What happened here on Friday was the end of a 100-year relationship. Nebraska started the Missouri Valley Conference with Kansas, Missouri and Iowa State, Iowa and Washington U. of St. Louis. Kansas State, Oklahoma, Colorado and Oklahoma State would later make it the Big Six, Big Seven and Big Eight.
NU has been playing Kansas uninterrupted since 1907, the longest-running series in college football. It would be nice to see that series continue as a nonconference game.
We'll see. Emotions are running high now, feelings and traditions have been trampled. NU shot a volley back in the blame game, and that game will probably continue, with greater intensity, as the Big 12 plays out its final year.
And how about that final year? Nebraska's final trips to Ames and Manhattan and Stillwater will be sentimental journeys, including R-rated sentiments sure to be sent NU's way.
Could Oct. 16 — Texas in the house — be any bigger? It is now.
But there won't be any more league trips to Mount Oread in Lawrence or to Folsom Field the day after Thanksgiving, and there won't be a return game to Austin. Nebraska cut the cord with all of that on Friday, in the name of loyalty.
Loyalty to itself.
It was more than the right thing to do. In a world that changes like a twitter post, Nebraska stood up for itself and secured a spot in this game of musical chairs. It secured its future for all the students who will now go into the world with Big Ten degrees and all the quarterbacks who will dream of playing in the Rose Bowl.
Even the master of understatement seemed to get the magnitude of the moment.
Said Osborne: “This is a very important day for Nebraska."
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Texas' decision still pending, AD says
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Joe Schad on five Big 12 schools poised to join Pac-10


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Dodds spoke outside of his stadium suite before Saturday's Texas-TCU baseball game.

He said, "could be" when asked about reports that Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott is traveling to Oklahoma and Texas this weekend to invite Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to join his league.
The Texas and Texas Tech boards of regents have scheduled Tuesday meetings to discuss conference affiliation.
Texas is considered the linchpin to the Big 12's survival after the league lost Nebraska (Big Ten) and Colorado (Pac-10) in a matter of two days this week.

A source indicated to ESPN's Joe Schad on Friday that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will join the Pac-10 Conference when a formal offer is made.

Texas A&M is reportedly torn between joining the Pac-10 or Southeastern Conference.

Another source with knowledge of the situation confirmed to ESPN.com's Andy Katz that Texas A&M was looking at the SEC, but the source said he is convinced the Aggies will end up in the Pac-10.

The source said the SEC consideration was fueled by "ego purposes" within Texas A&M, that the Aggies' power brokers sought distance from the Texas decision and didn't want to convey the appearance they were doing everything because of Texas.

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said Friday he is still working to convince the remaining 10 members to stay put.

"We're working with all those members. We've had a lot of positive feedback about the desire of those institutions to [stay] together," Beebe said. "There's been a lot of speculation about people going west ... I'm going all the way to the final whistle. I'm playing it out as hard and fast as I can."

Texas Tech has also scheduled a special board of regents meeting for Tuesday, at which the formalization of an acceptance to the Pac-10 could occur, a Big 12 source told ESPN's Schad.

Yeah, of course the MWC is eying the leftover Big 12 teams. Why wouldn't they. That doesn't mean that the Big 12 North wants to study viable options first. I'm telling you, a Big East/Big 12 North + perhaps Baylor/Tech is going to happen if the Big Ten takes from the Big East. They might even change the name of the conference. Alot of Big East football teams are sick of having all these non-football schools where they could make a new conference and get much more revenue.

The Big East, Big Twelve, and Big Ten should form a super-conference and call it the East-ish 22.

Sounds good to me.

5K bitches.

I don't get what the Big 10 is doing. If their goal by expanding is to enhance the exposure of their TV network and to expand into new/growing markets (i.e. the sun belt) I fail to see how adding Nebraska accomplishes this.

Adding Nebraska is not going to get the Big 10 Network into homes in the Southeast... adding Nebraska is not going to get people in sun belt markets more excited about Big 10 football/sports... what is the point?

This is an example of expanding for the sake of expanding. Yes they'll now have enough teams for a conference football championship, but Jim Delaney stated all along this was not the ultimate goal of Big 10 expansion.

oh **** off laz. you're a perfectly reasonable guy until it comes to kansas jayhawk anything. calm the **** down and **** off.

and yeah, somebody said the schools were 'tied together' in conference via kansas state legislation.

I can't say this enough for your post: **** off.

considering there are a ton of states where the major universities are in different conferences I don't understand why the KBOR keeps pushing this.

I go away for a golf junket and the conference collapses. See you all in the MWC.
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the KBOR does not need to approve nor condone what member institutions do as far as conference affiliation. They have recommended that they think it is in KU and KSU's best interests to remain in the same conference, but that is merely a suggestion.

Perhaps it was a way, they thought, to flush Notre Dame out and scare them into joining. It would appear, if that were the case, that Notre Dame doesn't give a damn and left the Big 10 having to accept a team that they wanted, just not quite yet...? It does let them have 12 teams though, and lets them have a championship game now as well (not that they couldn't before).

I do not see why they should stop at 12 teams though. I imagine it is up to the PAC now, but I am guessing they have plans to expand to 16 quickly if needed.

They probably need to have all the teams sign on. For TV viewership, the push East makes sense. But maybe some of the teams are worried that if they pick up some of these Big East teams who don't make buckoo bucks of football revenue then that would make the total payout per team less?? I don't know, just brainstorming. ONLY picking up Nebraska doesn't make much sense based on the stuff they are spouting out. It makes sense to me because it gives the the opportunity to play a championship game and brings in a huge traditional football powerhouse.

Agree.

I think the Big Ten, rightly or wrongly, is worried about its ego and doesn't want to look like the one solely responsible for destroying conferences and starting the domino effect.

The took Nebraska and can say they only wanted to go to 12 to get a football championship game. Then the Pac-10 reacted and added 6 Big 12 teams, effectively blowing up the conference.

The Big Ten can then say they didn't have a choice but to add a few more teams to compete with the new Pac-10/16, and can add 2-4 more teams.

Who knows which teams that will be, but if the Pac-10 truly adds the 5 from the Big 12 South, it will be the beginning, not the end, of realignment.

Wait, is that official now?

No i don't think so, that is just my theory.

and if the schools don't follow those recommendations the board can just cut funds. Might as well be orders.

"The Kansas Board of Regents is a nine-member body which governs the state’s six universities, and supervises and coordinates 19 community colleges, six technical colleges, and one municipal university. Members are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Kansas Senate. Along with serving on the board, each member works on various councils and committees, primarily in the education field, throughout the year. These councils and committees draw on studies to determine allocation of funds, distribution of support materials and in making administrative decisions."

http://governor.ks.gov/appointments/...ard-of-regents

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STATEMENT REGARDING THE BIG 12 CONFERENCE


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 7, 2010

BOARD OF REGENTS’ STATEMENT REGARDING THE BIG 12 CONFERENCE

Regents Affirm Joint Commitment of K-State & KU to the Big 12 Conference

(TOPEKA) – Recognizing the success of Kansas State University (K-State) and the University of Kansas (KU) within the Big 12 Conference, Board of Regents’ Chair Jill Docking, of Wichita, and Board of Regents’ Vice Chair Gary Sherrer, of Overland Park, today issued the following joint statement:


“We are unwavering in our belief that the best course for K-State and KU is continued joint affiliation in the Big 12. The intra-conference rivalry between the Jayhawks and Wildcats is exciting for athletics fans both within the Sunflower state and nationwide. In addition, joint affiliation in the Big 12 fosters invaluable cooperation between our two universities when it comes to serving the academic needs of Kansans and the economic development needs of the state. Chancellor Gray-Little and President Schulz will continue to keep us apprised as Conference-related discussions continue, and we know our fellow Regents support their ongoing joint efforts to sustain and advance the Big 12.”"


http://www.kansasregents.org/stateme..._12_conference

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The BOR wouldn't cut funds.

That wouldn't make any sense. Lets punish the students because these two universities don't want to listen to us.

KU,K-State go to Mountain West together? MWC interested in MU but I'm not convinced MU is not still in Big10 plans.

Exactly.

Does Kansas State want to be connected to KU? Of course. Is KU necessarily connected to KSU? Of course not.

There's 0 percent chance, IMO, that Mizzou goes to the MWC.

Big 10
SEC
Big East

It will be one of these three.

Agreed although the SEC wouldn't seem to be a very good fit.

Personally, I am sick of hearing about the MWC. I don't want in that conference.

Can't fugging say I blame you.

Agreed, thats why not really nervous anymore

I don't think it's a realistic possibility for KU.

Big East
PAC-10

One of these two. Now, the MWC might be a real possibility for KSU, but I don't think that would be the end of the world for them.

Last thing we need is to go backwards in conference status. I still would like to see the ACC on the table too.

Has this been posted? From ESPN..

The Mountain West Conference was a geographical misnomer from the beginning, as it launched with San Diego State among its eight original teams before adding TCU in 2005 and Boise State on Friday.

And the conference's reach doesn't appear to be stopping there.

According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Kansas, Missouri and Kansas State are on the Mountain West's radar amid a continuing shakeup of the Big 12.

But Baylor isn't considered a candidate to join the conference, with TCU standing staunchly in its way, the Fort Worth newspaper reported, citing unnamed sources.

"The Mountain West wants to be a national player and continue to grow in that realm," MWC commissioner Craig Thompson said in a conference call with reporters Friday. "We are extremely interested in BCS automatic qualification. We are simply trying to get to the level where each and every year a Mountain West team is playing in a BCS bowl game."

TCU would mount a lobbying effort against Baylor if the Bears are left out of the conference-realignment mix, the Star-Telegram reported.

But the conference covets Kansas -- and its legendary basketball program.

"Look at it this way," Jayhawks coach Bill Self said Friday at a charity event, according to The Kansas City Star. "No matter what, I'm 100 percent confident we're going to land. And we may land in a group that gives us more exposure than we ever could have had before. We may land with somebody that opens up recruiting doors in areas that we never really tested before. We're not gonna lose what we already have. This may open up new avenues for us."

New avenues are assured for most -- if not all -- of the Big 12.

Colorado left Thursday for the Pac-10 and Nebraska moved to the Big Ten a day later. Texas and the four other programs, not including Baylor, that make up the Big 12 South in football are leaning heavily toward a commitment to the Pac-10, or in Texas A&M's case, a possible jump to the SEC.

"We are gonna be in a BCS conference," Self said, according to the newspaper.

But count Self among those who still believe in the viability of the Big 12.

"If this league is held together," Self said, "we'll go get two teams or six teams and this league will be better than it ever has been."

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...27561&page=335

I think that's a long shot at best, but I agree that it would be a very interesting choice.

Honestly, I wonder if UNC and Duke would NOT want KU in the mix, simply because it would take some focus away from their state.

I don't see any reason why the Pac-10 is interested in Colorado over KU. Really makes no sense to me. What is another one state over matter? It's actually beneficial. Getting schools in the Central Time Zone will help their TV exposure immensely. BWillie007's sources have shown that the Pac-10 will offer to Utah if Texas A&M doesn't want to come. Texas A&M is just trying to act like they don't need Texas. But they'll realize they do soon. And it'll be all over.

Colorado, A&M, Texas, Tech, OSU, and Oklahoma all to the fucking Pac-10. FML

I think it only makes sense with all the focus on football to at least have one conference that is all about basketball but still tied into the BCS system.

Football. Denver market. Football. Pac10 doesn't give a shit about hoops. Arizona was just a bonus during the Lute years.

The PAC 10 wants to recruit in Colorado for football, and not so much in Kansas.

I know. We've went over this many times back and forth on here but the Denver market is only a smidge bigger than the KC market. It's only 400,000 people more. And nobody cares about college sports there.

Why on earth would a football conference want a basketball school?

Yeah, and the Pac 10 probably doesn't care about UCLA's hoops at all.

Colorado is a better academic institution than KU (and MU), so if things are about equal this would definitely push things over the top.

Why on earth would a football conference want a school that is neither?

You mean today or 40 years ago? Like I said, hoops success is a bonus if it happens in the P10 but the realignment is 100% football drive.
I live in P10 country, every day sports talk here is about their sorry-assed conference expanding to create their own network and get in on the football $$.

CU? They are much more football than KU. Also consider CU is heads and shoulders above KU academically.

That is a good point. In this day and age, it doesn't seem like most conferences even care anymore. Look at the SEC. You can be a reerun and get into those schools.

2009 3-9
2008 5-7
2007 6-7
2006 2-10
2005 7-6
2004 8-5
2003 5-7

Hyperbole alert. Hyperbole alert.

Welcome to the MWC. Get used to it.

Not sure why you all are mad. If the MWC gets KU, KSU, and MU it instantly becomes a power conference. It's already the best mid major football and basketball conference.