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beer bacon 09-22-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7932266)
Well, yesterday was interesting. Second straight year the PAC steps back from the ledge JUST in time to keep from really blowing things up.

I am actually fine with staying in the Big 12 for a few more years, biding time for the eventual collapse, and reaping some benefits. I think some concessions need to be made re: the Longhorn network - mostly that no high school games/highlights are shown on it, and that they are limited in the number of Big 12 games that can be shown on it.

The revenue sharing piece doesn't really bother me. Texas already has way more money than anyone else (Same with OU). And Missouri actually shakes out towards the top in the unequal distribution. So no real problems for me there. Plus, with the TV rights staying where they are (unless there's a renegotiation if BYU/Louisville/etc join), the money will be competitive for the next few years (basically, the same amount of time that UT and OU have committed to).

There are some real positives to staying in the Big 12, if it survives.

1) Being No. 3 in the pecking order behind OU and UT. This is not a bad place to be from a money standpoint, or a competition standpoint. Football will have a great chance to win 9-10 games a year in this conference.

2) Texas recruiting. Go ask Arkansas - a school that is closer to Texas, has more history in Texas, and used to recruit Texas like crazy - how much they like recruiting Texas from the SEC, while the Big 12 puts a dome around the state. It would fall off - perhaps significantly - if Missouri goes to the SEC while the Big 12 still exists.

3) Missouri can improve its attractiveness. Look at what has happened and how the perception of Missouri football has changed in the past five years. What would another five years of Pinkel-led 9-10 win seasons do for program prestige?

The main things that make Mizzou attractive to other conferences - population, TV markets, single state-level school, research university - aren't going anywhere.

Missouri will have the same - if not better - options when this does finally blow up. Until then, I've got no problem sitting tight, watching the Tigers challenge a lot in football, and waiting for conference armageddon to revisit the scene.

There are only a certain number of spots available in other conferences. We can't assume that we will have a spot in one, two, five, or ten years.

Bambi 09-22-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7932533)
You're insane. Moving to the SEC gives A&M a much greater shot at competing with UT and OU for Texas recruits. The SEC gets more players drafted than any other conference. They have the best coaches, facilities, and level of competition. A&M will benefit from being out of Texas' shadow and in the SEC.


I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The world doesn't just "make" more 5 star players because A&M decided to move to another conference.

UT and OU will always be the number 1 choice for Texas recruits.

Just a quick look at the 2012 and 2011 recruiting classes:

Alabama: 1 Texas recruit

Auburn: 1 Texas recruit (Scam Newton)

Florida: 0 Texas recruits

LSU: 5 Texas recruits

IF more players from Texas start going to the SEC it will be to play for these bigger teams and not A&M. I know this is the SEC's goal by letting the Aggies in. They are getting used.

A&M is just replacing 2 daddies with about 6...

Bambi 09-22-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7932585)
Meh the kid is def a 5 star talent. If we go by Rivals we have one starting on the defensive line: Baker Steinkuhler. So once again Wickedson is wrong go get in line for late night bruh.

Your last 5 star player is from the '08 class.

talk when you lock one down this decade.

LiveSteam 09-22-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7932728)
Your last 5 star player is from the '08 class.

talk when you lock one down this decade.

bundle of sticks

Titty Meat 09-22-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7932728)
Your last 5 star player is from the '08 class.

talk when you lock one down this decade.

No conference wanted your school.

Bambi 09-22-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7932746)
No conference wanted your school.

hahahaha.

We'll never know.

Kansas has class.

Nebraska runs and then talks shit about allies they've had for 100 years.

But you clap for the other team when they come play. :clap:

penguinz 09-22-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7932752)
hahahaha.

We'll never know.

Kansas has class.

Nebraska runs and then talks shit about allies they've had for 100 years.

But you clap for the other team when they come play. :clap:

Perkins said they had 0 interest when all this started. You actually think this has changed?

eazyb81 09-22-2011 12:33 PM

What 3 realistic schools would you add to the Big 12 right now?

I think West Virginia, BYU, and Louisville make the most sense and actually provide some value.

RustShack 09-22-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7932724)
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The world doesn't just "make" more 5 star players because A&M decided to move to another conference.

UT and OU will always be the number 1 choice for Texas recruits.

Just a quick look at the 2012 and 2011 recruiting classes:

Alabama: 1 Texas recruit

Auburn: 1 Texas recruit (Scam Newton)

Florida: 0 Texas recruits

LSU: 5 Texas recruits

IF more players from Texas start going to the SEC it will be to play for these bigger teams and not A&M. I know this is the SEC's goal by letting the Aggies in. They are getting used.

A&M is just replacing 2 daddies with about 6...

Playing a Texas school will open up that line more for the SEC schools, but it also helps aTm because they get to continue living close to home while playing in the SEC helping their draft status.

Bambi 09-22-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 7932768)
Perkins said they had 0 interest when all this started. You actually think this has changed?

Actually he said something along the lines of "How do you know we haven't been called?" Kansas leadership will never tell the media what they're thinking, but more then that they knew the conference wasn't going to break up.

Everyone at Kansas knew that. That's why no one ever started actin all crazy there.

But it has all worked out and I think everyone there is happy that the old Big 8 is pretty much intact.

Mr. Laz 09-22-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7932777)
Playing a Texas school will open up that line more for the SEC schools, but it also helps aTm because they get to continue living close to home while playing in the SEC helping their draft status.

only if A&M wins

If they become the little bitch of the SEC then it won't do much for them. Imo

Frazod 09-22-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7932752)
hahahaha.

We'll never know.

Kansas has class.

Nebraska runs and then talks shit about allies they've had for 100 years.

But you clap for the other team when they come play. :clap:

Allies? What ****ing dream world do you live in where that souless goggle-eyed one who sucks the penis Osbourne was anybody's friend outside of Nebraska? The closest thing KU has to an ally as KSU, and they hate your guts, too.

Good lord. LMAO

DaKCMan AP 09-22-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7932787)
only if A&M wins

If they become the little bitch of the SEC then it won't do much for them. Imo

Only 2 SEC teams had a 2011 recruiting class whose average star rank was less than 3.0 (Kentucky & Vandy). By comparison, the Big XII had 6 schools whose average star rank was less than 3.0, the Big X had 5, and the Pac-12 had 6. A&M will do ok in recruiting, even if they finish towards the middle or bottom half of the league most years. They shouldn't finish worst than Vandy or Kentucky any year.

Mr. Laz 09-22-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7932801)
Only 2 SEC teams had a 2011 recruiting class whose average star rank was less than 3.0 (Kentucky & Vandy). By comparison, the Big XII had 6 schools whose average star rank was less than 3.0, the Big X had 5, and the Pac-12 had 6. A&M will do ok in recruiting, even if they finish towards the middle or bottom half of the league most years. They shouldn't finish worst than Vandy or Kentucky any year.

yes, everyone knows that the SEC is 'awesome'.

penguinz 09-22-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7932785)
Actually he said something along the lines of "How do you know we haven't been called?" Kansas leadership will never tell the media what they're thinking, but more then that they knew the conference wasn't going to break up.

Everyone at Kansas knew that. That's why no one ever started actin all crazy there.

But it has all worked out and I think everyone there is happy that the old Big 8 is pretty much intact.

Actually you are completely wrong. It was more on the line of he was surprised no one called. He thought that BB would have more influence. That it just shows how important football is.


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