AND LMAO at Diontae "Stone Hands" Johnson wanting Cooper Kupp money.

Oh, gotcha.

Agree to disagree. These guys will command CLOSE to the top, which I think the FO will be fine with if it's the right guy/right fit/etc. Just not what Tyreek got.

Right?

I think we're entering an era where the Chiefs are going to start approaching WR like they do CB.

Notice who they are rumored to be pursuing at CB. They're going to be looking for solid guys in that second tier of money IMO...

Ehhhhh I'm not so sure about that. AJ Brown is going to want top 3 money. Same thing with Metcalf. The only one who will probably get less is Samuel and that's just because he's got injury issues from two years ago.

I think AJ Brown and DK are in different leagues and will be paid accordingly.

Exactly.

What they lack in production over time compared to Tyreek they make up for in physical traits and age.

AJ Brown and DK Metcalf are going to get Tyreek money or close to it.

Kirk Cousins and Patrick Mahomes are in different leagues and for right now, Cousins has more guaranteed money. The cap hits are nearly identical over the next two years.

You're underestimating the NFL's propensity to hand out huge contracts just because teams can - see also Miami Dolphins.

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A 33 year old disgruntled QB who has publicly stated that he wants out....is not the same thing as a 24 year old WR on a rookie deal.

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LMAO

Yeah, there's a 'new normal' on the WR market.

Time to start making chicken salad, Pat. Lots of it.

And Veach needs to start using more 2nd day capital on the position. Maybe treat it like many teams treat CBs. Just take one in the 2nd or 3rd round literally every single year. Take another on the 3rd day some years if the board falls right.

Just start firing bullets while you look for 2nd wave FAs to supplement the WR room.

But there's NOTHING to be gained by tossing mid-level QB contracts at a WR. It's just a disaster waiting to happen. But it will KEEP happening because teams with QBs on rookie deals will have the space and the justification to spend it (gotta give my young QB some weapons!).

Some perfect storm stuff for WRs, really. Which is surprising - the game has gotten easier for them in many many ways.

So you're out on McLaurin?

I said basically the same thing a few minutes ago. I think the approach going forward at WR will be similar to CB. They're going to be looking for rookies and guys like James Bradberry.

Lockett makes the most sense here. Might cost you a 3rd, contract doesn't break the bank, can walk I'm a few years, oh yeah averages 1,000 yards 8 TDs

I simply don't believe the Chiefs are looking to trade for a 30 y/o WR. That has not been their M.O.

Defensive ends make alot. QB's make alot. LT's make alot. Corners, safeties etc.

Everyone is making money. It's going up. New day in the NFL.

I'm out on given substantial draft capital for a WR who's a year away from the FA market, yes.

Unless/until that bubble bursts, I don't want any part of it. McLaurin, even if he comes 'cheap', will probably cost $16-18 million.

16-18 is too much? Damn bro, where you shopping for WR's, the pennysaver?

There's an out in his contract after a few years. This is going to be the cost of business moving forward of a guy like Lockett either pay those guys a pretty penny or gamble on them at a bit of an older age.

Already told you - I’m drafting them. If I find a star I extend him once.

But McLaurin isn’t a star. He’s a really solid X receiver.

I’m not paying market prices for those anymore. Our ‘baller ass GM’ needs to be able to find those in the draft and our all-world quarterback needs to figure out how to make them work.

Mahomes entire salary is guaranteed. It has the rollover guarantee that basically makes it impossible cap wise to cut him.

wrong

Riiiiiiiggghhhhhtttt.

Yeah, because drafting ALWAYS works out.

We don’t need a star WR and if he ever had Mahomes throwing to him, you can bet he’ll be a star. Pay the proven player, **** them picks, we have plenty of them.

Tyreek wasn’t a “star” when he had Smith throwing to him either. So how do you think the combo of Keenum/Smith/Fitzpatrick/Heineke makes McLauren look? Tyreek was just a “gadget” player until Mahomes made him the truly special player he is.

Wrong

So I’m just dreaming the “accusations” of making the pro bowl as a KR not a WR throughout the league?

2016/2017 were his statistically lowest production years with the exception of his injury shortened 2019 season

Looks like DeVante Parker is back on the trade market... a HARD no to this 29 year old brokedick.

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Agree, **** him and Landry

He's an excellent talent. But yeah, a broke dick.

Lance Long is available.
Slightly used.

LMAO LMAO What the ****?

Cmon man. You can do better, prove me wrong not act like a troll.

He was becoming acclimated to the offense and growing into his own. He made Alex Smith look extremely competent as a deep ball QB after being well subpar in years prior.

You sound like a trolling Jalen Ramsey knocking him for making the Pro Bowl as a KR rather than a WR. Anyone who watched him that year knew how incredible he was in both roles - with freaking Alex Smith throwing to him (or not) - and it's not like the Pro Bowl designation actually means anything whatsoever.

Reminder:
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...asser-in-2017/

75 catches 1175 yards 7 touchdowns his last year with Smith. Dumb post

and about three or four wide open running down the field gifs with Smith ducking and bailing due to imaginary pressure

:-(

I just watched the highlights from that link I posted. Alex Smith looked like GOD with Hill. Ugh. I'm fine with our moving on but JFC it's hard not having that guy in our corner.

In his very first year starting he got 1200 yards and 7 touchdowns with someone whose entire legacy is him checking the ball down. And that was his age 23 season.

Agreed to most of that other than Alex Smith and deep balls, the Ramsey Trolling was 2019. I’m talking about 16/17 bedsides the original point was McLauren has had dog diarreah for QBs and posted impressive numbers.

And was still his lowest production year in terms of yards and TDs. The point is not to bash Hill but to prove that QB CAN make all the difference for a talented player such as McLauren

It's gonna be okay!

Nah. 2018.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...urn-specialist

Yeah it was his 2nd year in the NFL. The goal is to get better from your early years so yeah...he got better.

Stand corrected.

Agreed! I think you know what I'm driving at but being stubborn about it - which is okay - I think you are a cool poster - even if a tad misguided :D

McLauren posted "Tyreek like" numbers in his first three years on a dumpster fire team with Mark Vlassic or Steve Bono at best as his QB's. I'm not saying he will replace Tyreek but he will sure get us close.

The original post was a reply to DJ that McLauren wasn't worth it. I disagreed with a comparison between Hills first couple of years under Smith vs McLaurens first few years under Smith or less capable QB's

Make sense?

Mclauren is a pipe dream. Why in the world would Washington trade him? It makes no sense. You don't trade good, young, cost controlled talent. You trade guys you can't or won't pay, or you trade guys that have worn out their welcome, or because you want to get younger at a position.

Washington is probably going to end up with Garrappolo or Mayfield or something. They're gonna need someone to throw the ball to.

Oh I don't disagree, but if they did he would be worth the trade - a known commodity. Honestly, why is a good question, they are a really bad team with 6 total draft picks in this draft so there is one reason.

Second reason:

https://washingtonfootballwire.usato...ted-last-week/

You trade those guys because you are years away from being worth a damn and they bring back the highest value.

You don't trade for Wentz and then trade McLaurin. That's the major inconsistency in arguing for dealing the guy.

I would say even with Wentz at QB they are still years away but that's just my take. Trade, get the picks and get your QB in the draft next year.

Totally agree. Wentz sucks. But you can't justify trading some real draft capital for him and then trading away your best offensive playmaker only weeks later.

I think they see a super weak NFC East and feel compelled to try and compete after years of ineptitude. It's probably the right thing to do for the fanbase.

Agree…but there were also many times this season where Patrick tried to force the issue to Hill instead of taking what the defense gave him.

I’ll certainly miss watching the connection between the two. They certainly built a great rapport. But I’m looking forward to seeing Patrick evolve even more so within the offense.

That was a weird season. Smith looked like an MVP candidate the first 6 games or so they we lost like 5 or 6 straight to some real shit teams like the Giants and Jets. I assume you were at those games?

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Anyone like this doesn’t have information and clear fake account

Please do not disparage a reputable source like ballsack sports.

BJ Hardick is one of the most reputable sports writers there is.

He likes the smell of buttcrack sports

Did we trade for Scary Terry yet?

That's why you keep drafting them.

If you have a great GM and he continues to throw talent at the position, it shouldn't be a struggle to end up with 2-3 above average WR targets via the draft.

Paying the proven player is great - until the cap says you can't anymore.

The path forward is paying to protect Pat and giving him a defense full of competent players. If/When Kelce retires or falls off, you may go out there and spend a little to firm up your primary target on offense.

But Mahomes is a force multiplier and from now on that's exactly what he'll have to demonstrate.

It's about traits.

If you didn't see Star potential in Hill when Smith was throwing to him, you weren't paying attention.

McLauren is a nice route runner and has solid hands. He's physical enough. Hell, he's largely what people hope we'll be getting from JJSS in most ways.

He's not going to come out here and be the focal point of an offense that teams have to gameplan around. That's just not the skill-set he brings to the table.

Little bit.

Hill went for 1,200 yards on only 105 targets w/ the best catch% of his career and best yards/target of his career with Alex Smith throwing him the football in 2017.

If he wasn't a star yet, it's the league's fault, not his.

Hill demonstrated every possible earmark of a superstar player and the tools jumped off the screen. That's simply not the case with McLauren.

I just don't think you're gonna trade for a guy that can replace Tyreek so don't try. Just stock the position with capable guys, add some other weapons wherever and go from there.

As DJ said, it's at the point where Mahomes is gonna have to put on his big boy pants and make it work.

If San Fran did come to you and said "hey, we aren't gonna be able to or don't plan on paying Bosa. Give us 29-30 and next years 2nd and we will let you pay him.".


Anyone doin that?

I’m all about trading for a guy like Shenault at this point. He’s got a skill set that this offense doesn’t have IMO. And if you’re looking to just stack the WR room with talent…..then he’s perfect.

I am.

Didn’t some guy in KC sports media have a Seymour Butts-type name?

I keep wanting to say Rusty Kuntz but I know he was a royals coach, not a reporter.

Like, the name was super blatant. It wasn’t just kind of humorous like Dick McGruder. It was legit a joke punchline

I'd rather have kept Tyreek.

29 AND 30? And next year's 2nd? No sale.

29 OR 30 and a 2nd? Maybe.

Because I believe Jones is likely coming off the books next year so you can afford to throw some money at Bosa.

Harold Kuntz

Super important poll

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Arden Key to Jags

29 and 30 and I'll do it. I'm not getting that pass rushers elsewhere like that so lets roll.

I'd love to have kept tyreek but I've got pat and ANdy to get the offense in order. They're paid well so it's up to them.

That’s the place to go if you have an inflated self worth.

The **** are they going to do at DE? They’ve already got Allen and Chaisson. Now they’re going to take Hutch or Walker? You can make Key an interior rusher but Jesus.

Yeah but you always want to trade every pick we have and then pretend the salary cap doesn't exist.

So of course you'd do it.

Where you seeing that about Key?