I was more referring to the fact that Vermeil thinks an owner can be great without having a quarterback. If an owner can't find a GM/HC who can find a franchise quarterback, he's not great owner, now is he?

No, just fire him. Hunt retaining Pioli only shows he cares about losing money with Pioli. Pioli is a freakin' cancer in the organization and doesn't belong anywhere near Arrowhead. Just rip the damn bandaid off.

BUT YEAH

he must have signed an extension prior to the season

he's a slick guy, no doubt...he and Cassel made out like bandits! NO PUN

Hes fine as OC and Reid would be calling the plays anyways.... Think it would be a great hire.

I'm glad Reid just wants to be HC, and not also an OC or GM. Let him be free to be the HC. This is all based on the assumption that Pioli will no longer be here. But if Pioli has no say on players or coaches.....I can live with it I guess. I'd rather he be gone but it would kind of be funny if Clark made him just do bitch work for the franchise while Reid basically called all the shots.

Lots and lots of money to not do anything.

and maybe that's what Clark thinks, too

make him Reid's bitch and maybe he'll settle on a buyout

it's not our money to just throw away

Clark has rectified the situation. Pioli is getting a serious demotion at worst. Who cares now? If people are mad because we hire an accomplished head coach who gets his pick at GM and gets final say...

why do we care if Pioli is fired or not? I guess I just don't get it. He's going to get paid regardless might as well see if he's worth anything to our new guys. Who knows? Maybe he's pretty good in little bitch role.

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

One thing to monitor on Reid/KC ... Scott Pioli has final say written into his contract. So if he somehow survives, deal might be redone.

Vermeil said Reid did not ask him about how he thought he could co-exist with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/03...#storylink=cpy

ROFL

Morons laughing at Childress as OC....Hurrrrr he sucked at Head Coach must be shitty Durrrrr

Multiple reports of Reid and Morninweig not being very close. only had a professional relationship. Rarely talked after he left.

Picking up candy wrappers after games at Arrowhead will be his new job. EARN THAT MONEY BOY!

I'd rather have Childress at OC instead of Shurmur.

Read it again. Reid doesn't want to call plays. He hasn't called plays in Philly for quite a while.

Why would he? He has no intention of working with Pioli.

It's funny how obvious it is who LaCanfora, Breer, etc.'s "source" always is in KC.

Of course. That pressed would be a dumpster fire. Andy Reid doesn't want to answer 30 questions about Scott ****ing Pioli.

Again, Pioli's own mouthpiece, LaCanfora, specifically said, if Reid is in KC, Pioli is out.

Redone? More like ****ing fired.

I mentioned this earlier: Whoever we hire to be GM is likely stuck with our current scouting department until after the draft, when personnel contracts come up. Same thing happened to Pioli four years ago when he inherited Carl's front office.

The thinking may be that in order to make the transition smoother, Pioli sticks around and helps with the transition, and in the meantime he can line himself up for another job in another front office, say Atlanta or New England, and after the draft, we part ways via a settlement or something and he moves on to his new club and we revamp the front office by hiring scouts and personnel people who are now available for hiring...

I would have no problem with Shurmur as OC. He has a lot more experience handling QBs compared to Chili.

Huh, very doubtful but what ever. Sounds like Haley with all the turds he had cycling out at OC.

Guys at NFLN are at all cost holding on to the hope Pioli stays in KC.

Exactly why I posted it.

I guess I read in the other thread about Pioli having final say written into his contract...

so perhaps we will have to fire Pioli after all

Sweet

thanks for the insight Breer Pioli

Absolutely no way Pioli stays.

WTF dude, even if you don't trust the radio guy (he has been spot on so far) look at Reid's history. He hasn't called plays in Philly for years.

Cassel: "Can I be first string again Andy?"

Walreid: "Uhhhhhhhhhh"

Breer a completely shitty reporter who loves all things Patriots.

WTF do we have two threads?

please combine them. This is maddening to keep up with.

or let's lock these two and start fresh...

I'm sure we'll have a new thread once THE DEAL IS DONE anyway.

OK, Eskin just came on the air again; regularly scheduled segment. No news really. He said after the nine hour meeting between seven Chiefs FO people, Reid, and his agent Bob Lamont, a deal is close. Reiterated the "Reid can bring his own GM" line, and he played a clip of Clark speaking about what he wanted in a new HC on Monday, and said "That sounds like Andy". I would imagine none of this is earth shattering.

Eagles reporter on 610 said Monte Kiffin would likely be DC

Albert Breer @AlbertBreer

what if fish had titties that would be weird huh. id get a boner looking at a fish prolly

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
Again, if they close the Reid deal, I -- like everyone else -- doubt Pioli survives. Just passing this on, in case of the possibility.

This basically confirms that Pioli is out. He's not going to redo the contract. And Reid won't come in without final say.

2013 year of the walrus: Hali looks like Eddie Murphy in Vampire in Brooklyn

Oh good god, no.

Casserly just said on NFLN that Reid is a good developer of QB's and WONT use the first pick on a QB.:grr: Mentioned that DL will be a need going forward...

Been reported that the Kiffin stuff has no smoke, so I'm thinking they won't go there.

why not?

ROFL

Chris Mortensen @mortreport

whoa just realized that "mort report" rhymes

Randy Covitz was just on NFLN. Said the "deal is imminent" stuff is coming from Bob Lamonte if I heard him correctly. Also he said he thinks the holdup has to do with Pioli.

not even I would dance on that line anymore, thig, bro.

I am not a fan of moving this team to a 4-3, let alone a more traditional Tampa 2 defense. Especially for a guy like Andy Reid who has really struggled to find a defensive identity, I don't want Reid dictating defensive scheme.

Our best bet is to hope Rivera gets fired tomorrow, and let him convince Reid to stick to the 3-4.

I don't believe shit Casserly says.

SAying it could be restructure of responsibilities...

Geeeezzz. Fire that douche now! :#

Yeah Flopnuts is probably lining up in his sights as we speak.

He's strict Tampa 2. Changing from 4-3 to 3-4 will be hard enough. Tampa 2 really paints you into a personnel corner when it comes to the cap.

I'm just hoping that they don't switch to the 4-3 base package that would **** DJ, Hali, and Houston.

He's a tired old man running an outdated scheme.

That's just the agent signaling the Chargers it's time to swoop in and steal Reid.

I agree.

Really want nothing to do with the Tampa 2, it's outdated as shit.

Reid WILLINGLY gave up playcalling duties in Philly. There's like no chance he calls plays here.

The deal has been imminent for four hours now. When is it official?

God I'd hate to run the Tampa 2. That would be a downer.

Chiefs are going to have to fire Pioli before they hire Reid.

During the press conference to announce the firing of Pioli.

I said in another post, that if ANYONE can get something out of dex, its Reid.

He loves those wiry little scatbacks, he'd screen the shit out of dmc.

Ugh. Fire the ****er and be done with it.

You speculating or?

If Pioli has final say in football ops, Clark has to fire him first.

I wish, I wish that we had a Planeteer who is an expert in contract law. I have many interrogatories.

FAX

Geez fire him Clark

***OFFICIAL Andy Reid "The deal is nearly close to being imminent" THREAD***
 

Let's hit the reset button and try and have just one dedicated thread for this Andy Reid business. The two threads we have going now are basically identical, and merging them would be even cluster****ier.

MODS, LOCK THEM SHITS

COMMENCE TO FAPPING IN THIS THREAD AND THIS THREAD ONLY

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Clark must have given pioli a giant ****ing $$$$ extension....

this is ridiculous, he should have been shit canned with crennel

It does sound as though we potentially have a few too many enormous asses taking up one, single, rickety chair.

FAX

I have to poop..... be right back.

If Reid does in fact not want to work with Pioli, do you fire him tonight or tomorrow, then hire Reid?

Yep.

Because final say means Pioli has to agree to several of the things Clark is trying to do.

I fire him yesterday.

I would fire him during the interview with Reid.