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beer bacon 10-13-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7993282)
Mike Alden interviewed at UNC.

damn..

KU got owned by NC again. Bubba Cunningham took the NC AD job. He just recently turned down the same position at KU.

Saulbadguy 10-14-2011 07:58 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/po...3-point-stance

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1. The SEC presidents will decide which school to invite as the league’s 14th member. Athletic administrators, I am told, don’t want Missouri because of the travel to Columbia. For instance, it’s 1,000 miles from there to Gainesville, Fla. Add the remote nature of so many SEC campuses, and travel of non-revenue teams will incur a sharp increase in either time (commercial travel through Atlanta) or money ($30,000 charter flights).

kstater 10-14-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7993961)

About time for Mizou to hike that skirt up a little more. Can you say Jr. Membership?

Pants 10-14-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 7993432)
KU got owned by NC again. Bubba Cunningham took the NC AD job. He just recently turned down the same position at KU.

To be fair, 70% of the KU fans did not want Bubba when he was going through the process. Bubba turned the job down after his final interview with BGL. Apparently she bestowed a million conditions on what he could and could not do and the guy decided he didn't want that.

So yeah, not sure how KU got "owned" and I'm not sure what the previous time(s) were.

Reaper16 10-14-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7993972)
About time for Mizou to hike that skirt up a little more. Can you say Jr. Membership?

The SEC can't.

kstater 10-14-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7993980)
The SEC can't.

Yeah, membership might have been too big of word.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-14-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7994002)
Yeah, membership might have been too big of word.

c'mon now...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EV3xtEb3bJ...20/Losers2.JPG

kstater 10-14-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 7994036)
Mizou is a much shorter word.

My bad, Mizzou is a much better spelling of Missouri.

Priest31kc 10-14-2011 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7993961)

Well thats not good.

And no one talking about Alden interviewing with UNC? Thats not good either.

And now no SEC Network possibly?

I got a feeling Mizzou will be staying in the Big 12-2-1+1.

KChiefs1 10-14-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7993961)

Solid reporting. How far is Arkansas from Florida? How far is Texas A&M from Florida? How far is Mizzou from Arkansas? How far is Mizzou from LSU?

Saulbadguy 10-14-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7994115)
Solid reporting. How far is Arkansas from Florida? How far is Texas A&M from Florida? How far is Mizzou from Arkansas? How far is Mizzou from LSU?

It's Ivan Maisel - he's pretty reputable.

Arkansas, A&M are worth the increased travel time. Mizzou is not.

kstater 10-14-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7994144)
It's Ivan Maisel - he's pretty reputable.

Arkansas, A&M are worth the increased travel time. Mizzou is not.

The comments are....interesting.

kstater 10-14-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7994146)
The comments are....interesting.

ESPN has gotten ridiculously derogatory towards MU and it needs to stop. Before the season they were hyping up MU and ever since this talk has started, they have yet to say one positive thing about them. John Anderson, one of your lead anchors and one of many of your own MU alumni, is a special guest at our 100th Anniversary of Homecoming this weekend, if you have any dignity left, please refrain from forcing him to talk crap about his Alma Mater this weekend!

Pants 10-14-2011 09:20 AM

Is John Anderson the most annoying personality on ESPN or is it just my Hawk bias?

Bambi 10-14-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 7993432)
KU got owned by NC again. Bubba Cunningham took the NC AD job. He just recently turned down the same position at KU.

nah.

this is ownage

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WilliamTheIrish 10-14-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7994115)
Solid reporting. How far is Arkansas from Florida? How far is Texas A&M from Florida? How far is Mizzou from Arkansas? How far is Mizzou from LSU?

It's Ivan Maisel.

But its also just another opinion. Until the stay or go is official you might well get used to this.

Old Dog 10-14-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7994153)
if you have any dignity left

ESPN doesn't

Priest31kc 10-14-2011 09:37 AM

So lets say SEC doesn't start SEC Network & pool Tier 3 rights....since Big 12 granted Tier 1 & 2 rights like SEC, wont we be making about the same in Big 12 then? And we wont have to double our budget to be competitive in SEC or pay exit fees...

I know SEC is alot more stable...but does anyone really think MU will be left out of a BCS conference IF Big 12 falls apart & we go to bigger conferences?

I hate Texas & them being above everyone else...but even if they were to show HS content on LHN and all that BS....would it really change anything? Mizzou will never out-recruit Texas in Texas anyways...

IDK what to think on all this anymore...

Frazod 10-14-2011 09:43 AM

I don't really care what happens anymore - it would just be nice if we would start WINNING SOME ****ING GAMES. :banghead:

alnorth 10-14-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 7994203)
So lets say SEC doesn't start SEC Network & pool Tier 3 rights....since Big 12 granted Tier 1 & 2 rights like SEC, wont we be making about the same in Big 12 then?

To be fair to the SEC, no I don't think so, but the difference will be fairly small after 2015. Since that extra money is not divided among Mizzou fans, the difference won't be enough to care about if you can keep the Texas pipeline and win the Big 12 north.

Old Dog 10-14-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 7994203)
does anyone really think MU will be left out of a BCS conference IF Big 12 falls apart & we go to bigger conferences?

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I don't believe there's a chance in hell that the Tigers would be a wall flower while 63 other schools get dance partners.

Reerun_KC 10-14-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7994219)
I don't really care what happens anymore - it would just be nice if we would start WINNING SOME ****ING GAMES. :banghead:

With your history in football? I wouldnt be worried. As long as I remember MU has been a storied powerhouse... It will come back around.

HemiEd 10-14-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7994219)
I don't really care what happens anymore - it would just be nice if we would start WINNING SOME ****ING GAMES. :banghead:

Somebody kill me now, I am feeling compassion for the Mizzou fans. :banghead:

I checked the schedule, and don't see any more Western Illinois or Miami of Ohio's on there, but I would say they got a pretty good shot November 26th.:(

alnorth 10-14-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7993961)

The only way this makes sense is if there is no possibility that Mizzou goes west and the east AD's are saying "N. F. W. we're flying to Columbia", but I don't know what option B is, if distance was a deal-breaker.

If the alternative is WVU then maybe its a little closer for the east schools, but if you look at a map, it isn't much. This theory is stronger if the alternative was Clemson or FSU, but we've been beat over the head repeatedly for a while that the SEC won't expand in states where they are in, so you'd have to assume that assumption was false all along.

Reerun_KC 10-14-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7992471)
ReeRun flew his SEC plane right over my house today. I gazed. Longingly.

My plane will be in Lawrence tomorrow and Houston on Monday.... What does this mean for KU?

My guess is nothing more than BALLSACK....

Saul Good 10-14-2011 10:00 AM

This season has been nothing but road games against ranked teams. We've got a Sophomore at QB, and out LT got injured for the season in the spring. Its going to take some time for this team to put it together.

Saul Good 10-14-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7994261)
The only way this makes sense is if there is no possibility that Mizzou goes west and the east AD's are saying "N. F. W. we're flying to Columbia", but I don't know what option B is, if distance was a deal-breaker.

If the alternative is WVU then maybe its a little closer for the east schools, but if you look at a map, it isn't much. This theory is stronger if the alternative was Clemson or FSU, but we've been beat over the head repeatedly for a while that the SEC won't expand in states where they are in, so you'd have to assume that assumption was false all along.

This entire travel argument is nonsensical for 2 reasons.

1. If travel for non-revenue sports is such a problem, you can have different divisions for those sports. I doubt Alabama is adamant that they keep their rivalry game with Tenn for women's field hockey.

2. In all liklehood, they will be expanding into 4 4-team pods in the next year or two, so these temporary divisions won't matter long-term.

Frazod 10-14-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7994251)
Somebody kill me now, I am feeling compassion for the Mizzou fans. :banghead:

I checked the schedule, and don't see any more Western Illinois or Miami of Ohio's on there, but I would say they got a pretty good shot November 26th.:(

It will just be nice to be back in Columbia - seems like it's been forever since they've had a home game.

Saul Good 10-14-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7993121)
Did MU sell out homecoming yet?

Yes. Thanks for asking. We didn't even have to send out letters begging people to come or anything.

HemiEd 10-14-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7994395)
It will just be nice to be back in Columbia - seems like it's been forever since they've had a home game.

Looks like two in a row coming up, Iowa State and Oklahoma State. 1 and 1?

Frazod 10-14-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7994419)
Yes. Thanks for asking. We didn't even have to send out letters begging people to come or anything.

LMAO

DJ's left nut 10-14-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7993121)
Did MU sell out homecoming yet?

A week ago, with GA seats going for $65 (which is absurdly high for the privilege of genuinely sitting on a pile of rocks).

Literally every single hotel room in Columbia is booked and most of the ones in Jeff City and the surrounding areas are as well.

That dog won't hunt, dickhead.

Frazod 10-14-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7994429)
Looks like two in a row coming up, Iowa State and Oklahoma State. 1 and 1?

Who knows? Hopefully playing at home will improve whatever's ailing them. Sure would be nice for these vaunted linemen I keep hearing about to step up and actually do something.

Saul Good 10-14-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7994437)
A week ago, with GA seats going for $65 (which is absurdly high for the privilege of genuinely sitting on a pile of rocks).

Literally every single hotel room in Columbia is booked and most of the ones in Jeff City and the surrounding areas are as well.

That dog won't hunt, dickhead.

That is to say nothing of the fact that there are 21,000 more seats at Faurot than there are in that multi-purpose facility they call a football stadium in Lawrence. It holds another 4-5000 when you include GA "seating" on the hill.

DJ's left nut 10-14-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7994610)
That is to say nothing of the fact that there are 21,000 more seats at Faurot than there are in that multi-purpose facility they call a football stadium in Lawrence. It holds another 4-5000 when you include GA "seating" on the hill.

They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

Saulbadguy 10-14-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7994624)
They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

DJ's left nut 10-14-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7994638)
I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

I alternate seasons w/ MU and the Chiefs.

If I have Chiefs season tickets, I let my MU tickets go; I can't justify dedicating that much time and $$ to football games.

The real problem with MU football tickets is that the best way to get them is through the secondary market. If you want decent season tickets, you have 2 options: 1) Be a student (best option) or 2) Get in the alumni association and pay an assload of money to get into the pool for tickets.

Football tickets as an alumni will still run you over $100/seat by the time you factor in your alumni association dues. If you also go to basketball games, it's not a big deal (because the alumni dues can apply to both and thus lessen the sting), but if you're just going to football, the tickets become pretty expensive in a hurry.

So most people tend to buy them on the secondary market. I've also grabbed them in the parking lot on a handful of occasions because the tailgate scene in Columbia is pretty badass. A lot of folks will just hang in the parking lot if they don't have tickets. So you go, barbecue, drink, try to find tickets and if you can't you just keep drinking and barbecuing.

Pants 10-14-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7994624)
They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

Yeah, I don't know where that stems from. I admit, last time I was there was in 2004, but the place was packed. I imagine it only got more popular since then.

I should add that it cleared early in the 4th qtr, but it was full when we got there. :D

Saul Good 10-14-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7994638)
I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

I'm certainly not a regular there, as its a 5+ hour round trip. I've actually seen them play multiple times in Lawrence and Manhattan.

Pants 10-14-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7994720)
I'm certainly not a regular there, as its a 5+ hour round trip. I've actually seen them play multiple times in Lawrence and Manhattan.

Pussy.

Frazod 10-14-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7994638)
I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

I would have went to see them regularly if they'd ended up in the Big 10. :cuss:

Saul Good 10-14-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7994624)
They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

That really is an impressive number, especially when you consider that it's not a marquis game, and its not inflated by a bunch of visiting fans packing the stadium.

As an aside, aTm announced its move to the SEC 10 days after it announced that it was exploring its options. Mizzou announced its intent to explore 9 days ago. I've heard a little speculation that the reason we weren't willing to adjust our start time in order to be. Televised because we may have announcement planned.

Saul Good 10-14-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7994728)
Pussy.

Totally. With all the marquee matchups the Big XII provides us, its hard to decide between Baylor, ISU, Tech, etc.

Discuss Thrower 10-14-2011 12:54 PM

There's something about how I feel like the longer any sort of decision is announced, the less likely it is for Mizzou to move.

DJ's left nut 10-14-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7994735)
That really is an impressive number, especially when you consider that it's not a marquis game, and its not inflated by a bunch of visiting fans packing the stadium.

As an aside, aTm announced its move to the SEC 10 days after it announced that it was exploring its options. Mizzou announced its intent to explore 9 days ago. I've heard a little speculation that the reason we weren't willing to adjust our start time in order to be. Televised because we may have announcement planned.

Seems unlikely and WAY too cool to be pulled off by this administration.

They'll announce it on a Friday at 4:45 to make sure that they properly bury the lede. Probably the Friday before the Super Bowl no less.

Seriously - this administration is really stupid.

Discuss Thrower 10-14-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7994753)
Wanna dance?

Questionable. I would never post a pic of my daughter on a message board. Especially this one.

HemiEd 10-14-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 7994754)
Questionable. I would never post a pic of my daughter on a message board. Especially this one.

I removed it for you. :D I had no idea who she was.

Discuss Thrower 10-14-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7994757)
I removed it for you. :D I had no idea who she was.

Well at the end of the day she's someone's daughter.

Saul Good 10-14-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 7994744)
There's something about how I feel like the longer any sort of decision is announced, the less likely it is for Mizzou to move.

That's my natural inclination as well, but my logical side thinks that, if this wasn't going to happen, the announcement would have happened by now. There's no logistics involved in staying. Moving requires getting ducks in a row.

WilliamTheIrish 10-14-2011 03:15 PM

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... newly emboldened K-State fans
LMAO

Newly emboldened? Shit there's nothing new about it.

Frazod 10-14-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7995039)
LMAO

Newly emboldened? Shit there's nothing new about it.

No, you guys have been on a tear since you won your Super Bowl last week.

Titty Meat 10-14-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7994739)
Totally. With all the marquee matchups the Big XII provides us, its hard to decide between Baylor, ISU, Tech, etc.

Did you just learn what the word marquee meant? You've used it in nearly every post today.

kstater 10-14-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7995045)
No, you guys have been on a tear since you won your Super Bowl last week.

CTR isn't for another 6 weeks.

Saul Good 10-14-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7995049)
Did you just learn what the word marquee meant? You've used it in nearly every post today.

By "nearly every", you mean "once"?

WilliamTheIrish 10-14-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7995045)
No, you guys have been on a tear since you won your Super Bowl last week.

That's not true. The Texas game is still weeks away.
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WilliamTheIrish 10-14-2011 03:44 PM

Well shit, now I see kstater beat me to it.
Posted via Mobile Device

kstater 10-14-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7995121)
Well shit, now I see kstater beat me to it.
Posted via Mobile Device

It's that extra pep in my step I've had the last week.

Titty Meat 10-14-2011 03:58 PM

None of ya'llz is gonna talk about midnight madness?

Buck 10-14-2011 04:40 PM

Holy shit balls. 22 team conference.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...ootball-merger

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Conference USA, Mountain West announce football merger

Conference USA and the Mountain West Conference announced Friday that they have agreed to consolidate their football programs into one association.

There are currently 12 C-USA members and 10 football-playing members of the MWC.

“The role of a conference is to provide its members with the best possible environment in which to conduct their intercollegiate athletics programs,” said MWC commissioner Craig Thompson. “Rather than await changes in membership due to realignment, it became clear the best way to serve our institutions was to pursue an original concept. The Mountain West and C-USA share a number of similarities, and the creative merger of our football assets firmly positions our respective members for the future.”

Rest assured, both leagues will be impacted by realignment. There are multiple media reports that Boise State of the MWC will be extended an invitation to join the Big East. Central Florida, in C-USA, is also expected to get a call from the Big East.

With TCU playing its final year in the Mountain West, the MWC and C-USA are near losing their most high profile programs.

UNLV president and Mountain West board of directors chair Neal Smatresk said: “In an era of uncertainty in intercollegiate athletics, this collaborative partnership with C-USA lends stability and credibility to our collective football enterprise. We are excited about the prospect of having teams in five time zones and the many possibilities created by this extremely bold and proactive step.”

In its current lineup, the two leagues combine to have a presence in 16 states. C-USA has television partnerships with Fox Sports and CBS Sports, as well as ESPN for its championship game. The MWC has partnerships with CBS Sports and Comcast/NBC Universal.

The two would operate independently, but there would be cross-conference games. The winners of each side would play in a conference championship game.

Al Bundy 10-14-2011 04:43 PM

22 team conference.. football. Will be interesting to see those matchups.

big nasty kcnut 10-14-2011 04:52 PM

The shit just got real.

Al Bundy 10-14-2011 04:53 PM

UCF vs UNLV... I could see the 2 schools I attended play.

kstater 10-14-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 7995242)
The shit just got real.

Not really.

Squawk

Frazod 10-14-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7995119)
That's not true. The Texas game is still weeks away.
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Shit, you guys beat Texas all the time. Missouri, not so much. :D

kstater 10-14-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7995320)
Shit, you guys beat Texas all the time. Missouri, not so much. :D

Snyder is 14-5 versus Missouri. Including 13 in a row.'


I think Pinkel is 5-5.

KC_Connection 10-14-2011 06:40 PM

Cool, a super mega conference.

kstater 10-14-2011 06:52 PM

'Aint no seats.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...dule-full-2018

mikeyis4dcats. 10-14-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 7994638)
I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

I've probably been to more games there than most of these guys....

KChiefs1 10-15-2011 08:38 AM

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Alabama would support adding Missouri if those Tigers, not Auburn, play in the East

Jon Solomon -- The Birmingham News 10/15/2011 5:34 AM

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Nothing's simple about the SEC possibly adding Missouri. As inevitable as Texas A&M to the SEC felt, Missouri to the SEC doesn't feel that way, although the wedding could still very well happen if a proposal happens.

Missouri remains favored by the majority of SEC presidents and chancellors as the 14th member, four sources familiar with their discussions told The Birmingham News this week. One major sticking point is which division Missouri would play football in, according to the sources.

Alabama, which resides in the SEC minority of wanting No. 14 from the East Coast, would support Missouri if it joined the SEC East, not the West, multiple sources said. According to the sources, Alabama has two objectives: Keep its annual cross-division rivalry game against Tennessee, and not watch Auburn move to the East and possibly grow its recruiting presence in talent-rich Florida and Georgia.

Auburn is interested in moving to the East but if staying in the West and Missouri joining the East were necessary for expansion, Auburn likely would not stand in the way, according to a source.

Memo to Missouri: Get used to this type of pettiness in the SEC, where even the tiniest of potential football recruiting advantages becomes dissected.

As strange as Missouri in the East sounds, conferences usually fail in geography class. Louisiana Tech currently plays in a league with Hawaii. Vanderbilt is in the East and Auburn is in the West in the SEC. The Mountain West and Conference USA announced a 22-team merged football league spanning 16 states and five time zones. The Big East might invite Boise State, for crying out loud.

Missouri in the East would allow Alabama to continue playing Tennessee every year. It would also keep the league's six traditional football powers divided equally (Alabama, Auburn and LSU in the West; Florida, Georgia and Tennessee in the East).

However, there is a fairly significant gap in football pedigree between divisions depending on whether Missouri or Auburn plays in the East, assuming Texas A&M goes to the West.

Texas A&M's all-time winning percentage would rank seventh in the SEC, well behind the traditional powers and slightly ahead of Arkansas. Missouri would rank 10th, ahead of only Kentucky, South Carolina, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State.

If Missouri plays in the East, the West would have six of the SEC's top nine winning-percentage leaders. The West would be decidedly better than the East in all-time winning percentage (.605 to .573), bowl winning percentage (.530 to .500) and SEC titles (46 to 35).

That disparity gets reduced with Auburn in the East. The West's advantage in all-time winning percentage would be lower (.592 to .585), and the East would have the edge in bowl winning percentage (.529 to .506) and SEC titles (42 to 39).

Some SEC presidents have concerns about the cost of Missouri's Big 12 exit fees and potential litigation, sources said, but the legal worries have been tempered since the Big 12 righted itself.

There's also the issue of ego, which can't be overlooked. Last week, The Associated Press quoted an anonymous Missouri official as saying the school preferred the Big Ten but now hopes to join the SEC because "that's what's left."

At least one SEC president who's skeptical of Missouri brought up the story during the SEC presidents' conference call this week, sources said, and the presidents were quickly told that's a minority view by Missouri officials.

Somewhat lost in the public discussion about expansion is travel for athletes, who are supposedly students first. Expansion doesn't affect football players on chartered weekend flights, but it better be a consideration for non-revenue sports given the remoteness of so many SEC campuses. Trips to Texas A&M and Missouri mean either more travel time or more travel costs.

Only one SEC school is within 500 miles of Texas A&M and just four are within 500 miles of Missouri. The SEC should place a percentage of any new TV money into a fund to assist non-revenue sports cover travel costs and take that decision -- should we buy out our football coach or charter our volleyball team on a long trip? -- out of schools' hands.

Missouri remains the SEC's focus. Where to unleash what would be the SEC's third set of Tigers -- that's one of the biggest questions.

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Saul Good 10-15-2011 11:20 AM

ESPN reporting that the Big East will invite 4 more teams.

KChiefs1 10-15-2011 02:08 PM

At the Mizzou vs ISU game. No Big XII signage anywhere! They have been taken off the field & end zones & around the stadium. Looks like a done deal.

Dante84 10-15-2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7996686)
At the Mizzou vs ISU game. No Big XII signage anywhere! They have been taken off the field & end zones & around the stadium. Looks like a done deal.

Yeah, that's the determining factor.

Saul Good 10-15-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7996692)
Yeah, that's the determining factor.

Why would they go to the effort to remove it otherwise? From what I've heard from people at the game, it sounds like they really had to carve up the ground to remove the logo.

kstater 10-15-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7996686)
At the Mizzou vs ISU game. No Big XII signage anywhere! They have been taken off the field & end zones & around the stadium. Looks like a done deal.

Hope it's true. With Mizzou being in good standing and all. I'm fairly certain displaying signage is a requirement.

mnchiefsguy 10-15-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7996701)
Hope it's true. With Mizzou being in good standing and all. I'm fairly certain displaying signage is a requirement.

Link to the requirement? They may not have bothered with signage since there was no TV for the game.

SPchief 10-15-2011 02:15 PM

Is that the reason they didn't want the game on tv?

Frazod 10-15-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 7996705)
Is that the reason they didn't want the game on tv?

That certainly makes more sense than the big **** YOU to all non-local fans that it seemed like.

Saul Good 10-15-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 7996703)
Link to the requirement? They may not have bothered with signage since there was no TV for the game.

From what I've read elsewhere, they had to really scalp the field to remove it. It was done intentionally.

Saul Good 10-15-2011 02:18 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if a student did it.

mnchiefsguy 10-15-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 7996705)
Is that the reason they didn't want the game on tv?

Maybe. I have read that they did not want the game starting at 11:10 because of the homecoming parade, activities, etc. Not sure what not having the logos on the field means. With no TV, maybe they did not want to pay for the extra grounds keeping? Maybe they are sending a message to the Big XII? Both of those seem unlikely to me.


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