That would be awesome. What would be perfect would be to get both KU and UK into the ACC somehow though.

Honestly... I hope ISU and every other team in the Big 12 lands on their feet.

Crazy times.

I think the teams that they are saying are going to the big east are ISU, Mizzou, Kansas, and Kansas State.

Good god... can you imagine the conference tournament wow

Louiville and Cinci are pushing for it to happen. I haven't heard of anyone being against it yet.

Texas makes enough money without one. Regardless what conference they go to, they would ultimately rule it, then force the hands of the other universities. Money talks in CFB, and they are the big fish.

It's possible.

I agree, and that's the thing in this whole mess that I don't get. Texas could do that easily. Why don't they?

Yeah, right. I'll bet that bastard Delany will never be able to hear the word Missouri again without laughing - at least as long as the current reeruns continue to mismanage things. Maybe he'll call Alden and tell him all is forgiven when he wants to see who else will step up. Seriously, how can he or anybody else in the Big 10 have any respect for us right now?

We need to clean house and get some competent people running the show. The ****ers we've got calling the shots right now couldn't sell C4 to terrorists.

That is all the media would talk about. Whoever wins the ACC will win the National Championship.

Oh wait, they already say that. ROFL

I hope every one come out fine. Texas can crash and burn for all I care. I wish Oklahoma would of burped or farted or something in those meetings. :spock:

Delany saw the way to cause a rift, knew the Big XII wouldnt be able to match the money the Big 10 could. Knew Texas wasnt coming, went to the north to pry the crown jewel. NU was the real target, Mizzou the pawn. No other school in the Big XII was more prime for the picking than NU. They were either Big XII or Big 10.

Good point. I should have said "other than Texas".

Seriously, **** Texas. They ruined the Big 8. We all played nice until they showed up.

Because they wouldn't have anyone to felate them other than Fox Sports South West.

OU had no reason to. Sure love for the Big XII to remain intact. Fact is, the money will be there regardless of what conference we are in.

Not the Pac-10. There are other 800 lb guerrilla's in the room with them. They would be even with USC, Oregon and whoever else is the big shot out there but not run the conference like they did Big-12.

We'll see, the Pac 10 struck first by saying FU to taking Baylor. Something we in the Big 8 did not do.

Maybe this will be a lesson Texas learns about playing fair.

For the life of me I can't figure out why Oklahoma plays Grover Dill to Texas's Scut Farkus. :shake:

Me either.

The good news is, they're Texas' No. 1 bitch.

As bad as things have been today, regardless of where Missouri ends up, at least we'll be free of that yoke.

It would be EPIC... And all of the ADs know this is a viability, because I emailed each of them.

I had to. I had to give them this idea. If shit goes down... how ****ing awesome would THIS be?

USC could be down for more than 2 yrs depending on how Kiffin works out. Texas probably figures that since USC was given a standing 8 count it can come in and wreak havoc immediately.

i've heard the same stuff rustshack has about the 4 ( ku ksu mu isu ) to the big east. Would be nice to tell the Texas schools to F off if we could add/keep Ou and OSU to add to the other 4 and bring in 6-8 new ones. big pipe dream in that case and i see the texas and oklahoma schools to the pac ten maybe T am to the sec and the north 4 to the big east.

i'm in the wake me up when it's over crowd, thats for sure.

Really, this is all pretty fascinating. Highly entertaining.

Disconcerting, maybe... but it'll end up alright. (for most of us)

IMO, Texas and Notre Dame should join the Big Ten... and the funny thing is... Notre Dame has the shittest academics of the bunch.

Texas A&M go to the SEC.

Texas Tech and Baylor should join with TCU and Houston into something form their own Texas Network...

Texas could go independent... that wouldn't be bad.

We are living in the end times, folks.

2012. lol

If Kansas goes to Pac-16... they would start getting some good baseball recruits...

funny thing is, ND uses their academics/standards as an excuse for their poor showing in football.

lol... start?

waiting on texas, yeah, thats the spirit.
 

Geoffroy on Big 12 Conference shake-up: “We don’t like it.”

By: James Pusey, Staff Writer
Published: Friday, June 11, 2010 9:53 PM CDT
After the University of Nebraska’s announcement Friday that it will seek admission to the Big Ten Conference, the fate of the Big 12 lies with Texas, Iowa State University President Greg Geoffroy said.

Geoffroy met with members of the press on Friday afternoon and said he was disappointed to see Colorado and Nebraska leave the conference this week. Colorado announced Thursday it was leaving the Big 12 for the Pac-10 Conference.

“We’d rather not be in this situation. We’d rather the Big 12 would have stayed together, and hopefully it will stay together in some form. To us, that’s the best outcome,” Geoffroy said.

Geoffroy said there has been almost constant communication between ISU Athletic Director Jamie Pollard and the athletic directors of Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Baylor, which are all vulnerable if the southern Big 12 universities decide to depart for the Pac-10.

Geoffroy declined to comment on whether ISU had spoken with or received any invitations from other athletic conferences.

“It’s just too premature at the moment,” he said.

As the Texas Board of Regents prepares to meet on Tuesday to determine the fate of the Big 12 Conference, Geoffroy said the most important thing is for the five vulnerable Big 12 universities to be in close communication as their various options unfold.

When asked whether ISU, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Baylor were committed to stick together in the event of a Big 12 collapse, Geoffroy said all five schools have said they would like to stay together. However, he stopped short of saying the schools had made a commitment.

“‘Committed’ is a word that I’m not sure what it means these days,” Geoffroy said. “We thought that some of the other members of the Big 12 Conference were committed.”

He said it is important that ISU remains in a BCS-level conference because of the national exposure that intercollegiate athletics brings to the university. The impact of a drop to a mid-major conference on student recruitment is unknown, Geoffroy said.

“There are a lot of universities around that are top-notch institutions that have no problem recruiting students and are not in the conference affiliations that we’ve been in,” he said.

Much of the current predicament has been outside of ISU’s control, but Geoffroy said the university is doing whatever it can to ensure the best possible outcome.

Iowa’s most powerful political voices also have chimed in on the issue in the last several days, as ISU has been backed up by the likes of Gov. Chet Culver and U.S. Sens. Chuck Grassley and Tom Harkin. Though Geoffroy said he appreciates the support, he said there is only so much they can do.

“It’s certainly gratifying to receive that support, and we very, very much appreciate it, but ultimately what’s unfolding is occurring in other states, and there’s limited influence that our elected representatives can really have,” Geoffroy said.

Despite things not turning out the way he would like them to, Geoffroy said he remains optimistic that ISU will come out of the next couple of months in a good position.

When asked whether what was happening to ISU was fair, Geoffroy smiled.

“We certainly don’t like it,” he said. “It creates a lot of instability and uncertainty about the future, and we were very comfortable in the Big 12 Conference. But I don’t know how to answer the question about fairness.”

James Pusey can be reached at (515) 663-6922 or jpusey@amestrib.com

http://amestrib.com/articles/2010/06...7123273445.txt

I'm gonna release the Herm....

"It'll be OOOOKAYYYY."

When it comes down to it, we'll all be "OOOOOKAAYYY"

Has nothing to do with Texas. Texas going independent,i.e. establishing their own TV network, makes OU the next biggest fish to get. I dont see Notre Dame ever going to the big 10 if they dont now. They are at their weakest, yet still better off being independent. Personally, I'd rather OU go to the SEC, in order to open up Florida for recruiting.


OU by no means, has the ability to generate cash as well as Texas, no college outside South Bend, IN does. You stay close enough to grab a piece of the pie.

baseball. not basketball. lol

I don't want to lose the games with the rest of the Big 12 North. Theirs too much history to throw it all away. I hope the Big 10 is letting Missouri squirm for a little while before inviting them. It wouldn't be the same without them. ;)

:doh!:

Seriously though... I wonder how conference realignment will affect overall out of state student enrollment.

How big is it that each state gets a bulk of out-of-state students through seeing them via sporting events.

If all of the rivalries are broken, etc... that could **** up certain schools.

IMO, if they had any intention of letting Missouri in, they would never have so utterly disrespected us. Pawn, tool, chump, but not a player. At least until the Wile E. Coyote types running the show are shoved out the door.

If someone is dedicated enough to being a victim I suppose they will be.

Most schools that are in the big cons do that when they don't win. Baylor, Northwestern, Vandy, Wisconsin...

Are you including Alden in that list?

How can you be upset with what he has done with the basketball and football programs?

How? By being on a message board! ROFL

I agree.

Mizzou is fine. There's no reason to freak out.

Lets see how it all plays out....

I keep looking at the actions of each school and entity...walking a mile in their shoes and...I really can't blame anyone for their actions. Texas doesn't ****ing owe us shit.

Bebee is a powerless puppet not a villain.

Not to mention the dust hasn't begun to settle. This thing is not over yet.

Not close.

Are you ****ing kidding me? He's the bitch of every other AD in the Big XII North. Getting punked in bowl selections by teams we beat three years in a row? Including Iowa State. IOWA STATE! And how about today's disaster? I really liked the part when he totally kissed Osbourne's ass not five minutes after he chucked him under a bus. Thank you sir may I have another!

We have both major population centers in the North, a huge population and no real in state competition. KU types have pointed out in the past that Missouri should be a dominant force, and they're right. Yet we routinely get slapped around by teams that split smaller states, and have no national credibility whatsoever.

I'm sick of it.

I solely blame Texas for being the greedy arrogant bastards that they are. I hope karma give them a big ass kicking in the near future.

Under his watch, we've had some great success in both basketball, and football.

And "today's disaster"? I don't see it. What disaster?

Calm the **** down, man. :)

Yeah, silly me, everything is fine.

Ugh... I hope you're wrong. That's all.

In any case... Mizzou will indeed be fine.

you both have some good points. yeah, alden has his faults. part of his faults are that we don't travel well. part of them are that he's been outmaneuvered inexplicably at several turns. however, he's turned around the football and basketball programs, and we'll likely land in a power conference. patience, kimosabe.

In the end, that's what matters.

And unlike everyone else... I'm not sure that won't be the Big Ten.

This is the key.

He may be the nicest, most well-meaning person on earth, but he's obviously in over his head dealing power players.

Let me ask you all this - imagine you're a highly touted high school recruit from Kansas City, watching this shit unfold on ESPN and in the internet along with the rest of us.

After what you've seen today, where do you want to play - Missouri or Nebraska?

A recruit from Kansas City?

Missouri.

Ames fuckin Iowa. no question
























:D

:facepalm:

ROFL

that settles it! to the big east we go. tigers, wildcats, and jayhawks jump abord this cyclone on our quest to conquer all! free beer and hookers for every1!!!!

If you're a highly touted recruit from KC that is being considered by both MU and NEB, there's a good chance you can't even read and an even better chance that you have no earthly idea about how MU was manipulated in this thing.

Until we get butt****ed into the Big East, recruiting won't have been damaged. Nothing that happened today will hurt us in a vacuum, but the long term ramifications likely will.

I'm not a fan of any of these teams. But I still think Mizzou ends up in the Big Ten. They have to go somewhere.

But until that happens, I'd agree it sure doesn't help your recruiting. Hard to sell a kid on a school when you don't even know who your conference opponents are going to be when he's good enough to actually see the field. I still think you'll be fine, there will be some who don't care. But if nothing else Nebraska has a leg up because they can say "Hey, you'll get to play in the Big House, Happy Valley, and the Horseshoe."

This one should make all our KU friends happy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....92f8114a.html

Sources: UT, Tech, OU, OSU set to exit Big 12; Pac-10 eyeing Kansas if A&M can't commit

12:54 AM CDT on Saturday, June 12, 2010

By CHUCK CARLTON / The Dallas Morning News
ccarlton@dallasnews.com AUSTIN – Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are poised to usher in a new era of college athletics, a major realignment that could gut the Big 12 and lead to the nation's first megaconference.

The four South Division members of the Big 12 Conference are planning to exit to the expanding Pacific-10 conference next week, multiple sources familiar with the process confirmed Friday.

Texas A&M's situation remained in a state of flux. Sources indicate that the school remains divided about going to the new Pac-16 or pursuing a bid to the Southeastern Conference.

The Aggies were strongly invested in the survival of the Big 12. But the league now stands on the verge of losing at least half its members. Nebraska officially departed to the Big Ten on Friday. The Cornhuskers will begin Big Ten play in 2011, one year earlier than expected.

One Big 12 source expressed overall caution, pointing to the fluidity of the situation.

While Texas and Texas Tech each scheduled board of regents meeting on Tuesday to consider realignment and possibly authorize conference movement, A&M had not announced any such session.

The Aggies may not have much time. Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was en route from Colorado to the states of Texas and Oklahoma with invitations in hand, a source familiar with the process confirmed. If the Aggies cannot commit, the Pac-10 is prepared to invite Kansas with its great basketball tradition. While the Jayhawks are desperate to find a landing spot, they would have to leave in-state rival Kansas State, a political problem.

Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and either Kansas or Texas A&M would join Arizona and Arizona State in an eight-team eastern division designed to reduce travel issues. Scott also plans a Pac-10 television network that could help generate $20 million per team per year.

"We're still working through the issues," Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin told The Associated Press. "We're also waiting to see what happens with other schools. We were very happy to stay in the Big 12, the way it was. It's changing now, and we need to figure out what that means.

"The Big 12 is not what it was, and we have to think about its future and ours."

Loftin said he was aware of A&M's traditions. A move to the SEC would potentially threaten the longstanding rivalry with Texas.

Some connected with A&M are ready.

"There was a time when I really felt like Texas and Texas A&M should be in the same conference ... but at the same time I think Texas A&M is now big enough to stand on its own," regent and Aggie football legend Gene Stallings told syndicated radio host Paul Finebaum. "We don't necessarily need to be piggy-backed by anyone else."

But Texas A&M has to be certain about an SEC bid. The SEC would have to add a team to balance A&M in its divisional setup and would require more money from its TV partners. Maryland and North Carolina from the Atlantic Coast Conference could be possibilities.

A miscalculation could leave A&M high and dry like Missouri, which had hoped for a Big Ten bid. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany told Big 12 counterpart Dan Beebe that he was not anticipating adding any other Big 12 schools, Beebe said.

Texas officials declined to comment, citing the upcoming regents meeting.

"Our goals and hopes all along have been to keep the Big 12 Conference intact," athletic director DeLoss Dodds said in a statement. "The league has been great for its members. We also have been honorable, up front and forthright with regard to our work and responsiveness to all the possible and now definitive changes to conference landscapes."

Dodds said it would be "premature and inappropriate" to speculate about the regents' decision. Texas would work through the weekend to evaluate its options, he said.
But that decision has been made, sources indicated. That led to commitments from Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Tech, as well.

Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione had said the Sooners were linked with Texas, citing their long-standing rivalry. Dallas billionaire and Oklahoma State booster T. Boone Pickens, who donated $100 million to the UT system in 2007, told the Tulsa World that the Cowboys would follow Texas and Oklahoma.
Oklahoma State released a statement Friday, saying in part: "We are pleased Oklahoma State University has opportunities and we believe it is a reflection of the strength of our overall athletic and academic programs."
The Big 12's Beebe, struggling to hold together his league, pledged to keep working. He said he was still convinced the remaining teams in the conference constituted value.

"There's been a lot of speculation about people going west," Beebe said. "I'm going all the way to the final whistle. I'm playing it out as hard and fast as I can."
Baylor President Kenneth Starr and athletic director Ian McCaw held a news conference Friday. The Waco school has been the most aggressive in trying to maintain the conference. For the moment, Baylor would be left out of any conference scenarios, along with Kansas State, Iowa State and Missouri.

"Personally, I think that each and every one of the 10 institutions is better served remaining in the Big 12 than leaving for another conference," McCaw said. "I genuinely believe that, and I am not alone in that opinion."

But right now it's a minority opinion in the Big 12. Less than two weeks ago, the schools convened in Kansas City for the spring meetings hoping for a show of unity. Now the league's very survival is at stake, and college athletics is changing daily.

"I've never seen anything happen this fast ... kaboom," former Texas football coach David McWilliams said Friday.

Good news for Mizzou.

How do you figure that?

agree with your predictions

The Pac 10 going to 16 leads to the Big Ten going to 16.

Along with the SEC, ACC, MWC,

Would be bad news for the Big LEast that's for damn sure

More than likely, but it would also depend on who they can grab from the Big 12.

I thought we renamed them the Big Least.

Damn that's right..... Fixed it :D

There was an NBC rumor link also stating KU is expected to get an invite if A&M either opts for the SEC or can't make up its mind. Keegan at the LJW is saying Stanford is lobbying for Kansas' inclusion.

I really hate seeing the breakup of the rivalries with K-State and Mizzou but it is a different world now. Can you imagine if all three teams end up in different conferences? I can bet who the Sprint Center is inviting every year for their holiday basketball classic!

I think A&M is leaning towards the SEC and it makes a lot of sense for them to do so. The SEC desperately wants a presence in the Texas market. A&M benefits in going to an established league (with an established contract) and has a better tool to recruit against Texas with: a different conference. Right now, most Texas players who want to play SEC go to LSU, but a Texas school in the SEC gives Texas recruits a choice of major conferences as well as schools.

I admit my rooting for the SEC here is very selfish, but right now, its the closest I have seen to a light at the end of the tunnel for KU.

-HH

Not only that, it opens up another 1-3 slots in the SEC as well. Missouri may end up a logical choice in helping that conference round out its membership. If this PAC-10 becomes the Super 16, the word is they are going to petition for two automatic BCS slots. If they get it, the Big 10 and SEC will move quickly towards 16 team conferences.

-HH

Wow I will show Mizzou sympathy even if you dildos didn't do the same for me

Or GASP, not given them whatever they wanted when the conference was started

signed

thanks to us sucking off Texas for a few years we're good





Bob Stoops

It's that birthday shit

I still am holding out hope mizzou will get in the big 10 or somewhere solid..

Alot can happen and probably will

No doubt. Question is why would Nebraska have such strong words for Mizzou if they will be in the same confrence again?

Congrats for already being in...it's been a crazy ride so far, im not as nervous as before, just hoping for this shit to get over with at this point.

yo dudes let's all go to the big east vOv

Karma wont happen but we only have to deal with them 2 more times