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xztop123 04-29-2024 12:25 PM

He’s essentially the exact opposite of a runner than Pacheco.

Pacheco violent running style comes from a huge squat number and a ton of force generated in the ground.

Worthy is opposite - smooth gazelle running style (which can have advantages too)

In58men 04-29-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17502283)
1. McKinnon almost surely won’t be back.

2. Are we sure that’s not just the round he was drafted in?

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staylor26 04-29-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17503509)
I was explaining the mccluster comparison. Please follow the discourse. Mccluater also was drafted by kc. And was skinny.

Ohh so you meant KC when you said "dc". Try checking your garbage takes for spelling errors.

Why do you need to compare him to a RB that KC drafted over a decade ago when there are similar WRs drafted in the NFL the last few years?

ThaVirus 04-29-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17503488)
One thing's for sure, Worthy will be a lot more physical than Smith. I did a brief cut up and posted it about 20 pages back. Worthy is a straight up DOG.

As crazy as it may sound, he's a bully. Will that fly in the NFL? Likely not but it won't be for lack of him trying. I expect him to embarrass a few db's on the boundary early in the season when they're expecting him to sidestep out of bounds.

Word will travel quickly that he's no punk. -
https://www.facebook.com/ChiefConcer...ibextid=NnVzG8

I saw what you posted and actually would prefer he not do that in the NFL.

Even if he beefs up to like 175 or something, he’s still in the bottom 5 percentile for weight in the league. He’s got no business trying to bully guys out there.

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17503519)
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Worthy was 1 in college as well..

McKinnon is gone.

A TE wearing 12 is pretty fun though.

ThaVirus 04-29-2024 12:28 PM

Trindon Holiday and Travis Benjamin were another couple receivers under 175.

Looks like Hardman is listed at 185 but I wouldn’t doubt if he played closer to 175.

Jerm 04-29-2024 12:43 PM

God I cannot wait for this season now and for this kid to come in and tear this league a new asshole...

There's gonna be so many dumbasses look foolish, it's gonna be hilarious.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17503492)
I don't know about 185, but he clearly lost some weight to break the record.

Yeah - I think 175 is all you can reasonably expect.

Kids running a 4.2 - his body has developed. It may thicken up a bit but if he's grown into his speed, he's probably grown roughly into his size as well.

No way he hits 185. Frame just won't support that much good weight.

Dante84 04-29-2024 12:49 PM

Veach already said he'll work with our nutrition team and they envision him playing around 175-180.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach says the 175-180 pound mark is the ideal weight for new WR Xavier Worthy. Says he&#39;ll work with the nutrition staff to get there. Currently listed at 165.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1783712159664333108?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 04-29-2024 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17503527)
Trindon Holiday and Travis Benjamin were another couple receivers under 175.

Looks like Hardman is listed at 185 but I wouldn’t doubt if he played closer to 175.

Agreed. Hardman wasn't playing anywhere close to 185. 170-175 seems about right.

xztop123 04-29-2024 12:49 PM

Worthy probably has a more typical sprinters body than Tyreek. Who is massive for how fast he is.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17503579)
Veach already said he'll work with our nutrition team and they envision him playing around 180.

Yeah, because Texas has no concept of diet and nutrition.

Mecca 04-29-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17503579)
Veach already said he'll work with our nutrition team and they envision him playing around 175-180.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach says the 175-180 pound mark is the ideal weight for new WR Xavier Worthy. Says he&#39;ll work with the nutrition staff to get there. Currently listed at 165.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1783712159664333108?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He was 169 at the pro day..odds are he was playing at 170 and lost a few pounds to break the combine record.

Dante84 04-29-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17503584)
Yeah, because Texas has no concept of diet and nutrition.

I mean, if he was sprint training for 3 months after the season to secure the best possible 40 time at his combine, its not unreasonable to think he lost some mass, even if just 5 pounds or so.

DJ's left nut 04-29-2024 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17503586)
He was 169 at the pro day..odds are he was playing at 170 and lost a few pounds to break the combine record.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying as well.

The 'real' Xavier Worthy is probably around 4.3 - 4.35 and 165-170 lbs. With a little maturation you might get that to 175 without losing anything.

I just don't see 185 being within the realm of possibility and man, 180 is pushing it. This isn't 1995; these guys aren't coming out of college doing situps and skipping max days.

These guys get pushed hard by Power 5 training staffs. If they could've bulked him up to 180 and gotten him taken at 17, that's just one more thing they can recruit on.

These guys are damn near at their peak when we get them. You can work technique and maybe sculpt them around the edges a bit, by they're 90% formed by the time they get to the NFL for the most part.

I mean did the Chiefs strength training ever build out De'Anthony or Mecole? Hill was already a freak of nature when he got here. By and large those guys remained the same physically. Because they came from massive programs.

Someone like BJ Thompson out of Stephen F. Austin may be someone you can really bring up a level because of a step up in strength/nutrition. But a dude out of UT? Man, I just don't think we're better at it than they are.


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