We're one game out of last. So, looks like the cellar before June 1st.

Perez and Cain have caught Hosmer's "pussy-itis"

The reality is that this starting pitching, while very good, wasn't going to be able to hold teams to 3 or fewer runs consistently throughout the year. And, this lineup, while we feared they would have some power issues, is so much worse than we ever expected. Add those two together and you have a 90 loss season staring you in the face.

I am willing to bet that this O isn't THIS bad. Hosmer hit one oppo yesterday that was crushed. He is going to get some punch going. Of course Salvy is going to make a difference when he gets back.

He's hungover.

No team can live up to that. The worst team in the AL will average close to 4 runs per game. The Royals have 3 black holes (Franceour, Getz, Moustakas) in the lineup and others who are below average as well.

The lowest R/G last year was 3.82. Best was 4.99.
The lowest R/G this year is 3.61. Best was 5.41.

Royals are currently at 4.06.

The funniest part of the Brett interview was when he was like "You could ask Moose, Butler, whoever is playing 2nd if they are having a good year and they would tell you 'no'."

Stole this from RoyalPug at Royals Review:

Exhibit A against Moore isn't just Frenchy

It’s the entire position of right field. Moore’s two signings, Guillen and Francoeur have combined to give the Royals more than $70 million in NEGATIVE value over 6 years.

To put that in perspective, that completely cancels out Alex Gordon’s entire career.

We are 4-17 in the last 21 games. Wow.

Right, that was my point. We were working on borrowed time, especially with an offense like this.

Cactus League Super Heroes, man.

I wasn't disagreeing, just using your post and expanding on it. The hitters are losers.

Every year, without fail.

We are awesome at crushing fastballs in the desert air from non roster invitees.

I just canceled my MLB.TV...

my message:

I'm a Royals fan. They suck. So please cancel my MLB.TV subscription as I'm done with this pathetic franchise this year, until they trick me again next year with false hope.

TW

I'm going tonight. I'm up under cover so I don't think I'll get rained on. But I might get pissed on by 20,000 drunken Cardinal fans. Wish these pricks in blue could win just one frickin' game that matters to their fans. That would be a refreshing change.

in fairness

most pitchers get fastballs right down the middle on the 1st pitch

it's not like opposing pitchers are throwing their best stuff at Zack Greinke. He has the luxury of knowing, most likely, he'll be seeing a fastball.

but yes the absolute lack of power on this team is so bad it's actually, now, funny

Dr. Lewis Yocum, who performed many Tommy John surgeries for MLB pitchers, died of liver cancer today.

He did Danny Duffy's surgery, as well as, Stephen Strasburg's and many others. I know Roy Halladay had just gone to see him about a month ago.

Wow...didn't see that coming.

RIP

Your choice to be a fan.

Poor Ned.

Did Yost use his real name?

I heard he identified himself as Cherry Jones first.

No, he used his Starbucks alias. :LOL:

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Heh, even the team plane isn't working. So they have to Bus it to St. Louis

Yelling would probably be a good start.

They've already been spanked, by the A's, Astros, Angels, and Cards. How about sending a message by ending someone's career as a Royal...Francoeur.

When Dyson is ready to come back, the move they make to get him back on the roster will be telling. Lough back to AAA or Francoeur released.

It's clear what it SHOULD be. But I'm certain what it WILL be.

Dayton's son Jeff isn't going anywhere until Dayton does.

The KC Royals Chat Board on the Royals site is a total joke. 90% of it is the Blue Kool Aid drinkers re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. One poor soul is trying to start "a petition" to "Make it Stop!"

OK, I'm down with that. I signed. I just told them I'm into spanking.

You can sign too, just go here:

https://www.change.org/petitions/roy...als-management

Lee Judge and Jim Fetterolf are their patron saints.

These are the questions David Glass should be asking Dayton Moore:

http://www.royalsreview.com/2013/5/2...er-development

Alas, I fear Moore would dazzle him with some bullshit doubletalk that Glass wouldn't understand, and Grampa would send him back out there confident that in just five more years it will all come together.

Baseball Pro article today breaking down Hosmer's struggles. Depressing.

Good read if you have a sub.

Basically: His swing is jacked up, making him unable to handle even average fastballs.

LOad is heavier. Balance is worse.

Dyson has been cleared to start jogging, so I would think he should be ready to go in about 7-10 days. We shouldn't have to wait too long.

Some positive news:

John Lamb's velocity was up in his start last night. Was hitting 90-91 for the first time this season. I had given up on it returning. We'll see if it holds up.

If they fire Moore after this season, the next GM will have some nice tools to build with.

That is a fireable offense. Please. I hope.

How many times is there cock high fastballs down the plate and a royal fouls them off only to get broken off a nasty slider next.

Meanwhile, in the St. Louis visitors clubhouse...

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Out of the 2 Zack Greinke trades which side did better?



Trade 1 - Alcides Escobar, Lorenzo Cain, Jake Odorizzi , Jeremy Jeffress For Zack Greinke and Yuniesky Betancourt



Trade 2- Jean Segura , John Hellweg , Ariel Pena For 3 months of Zack Greinke



IMO Trade 2 by far what say you.

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Link?

Id like to read before throwing myself off the BB.

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The teams that drive me crazy are the ones that are in denial, performing poorly yet operating in their own little universe, acting as if only they know what is best.

The Orioles were like that for a long time. So were the Pirates. The Astros are like that now, but get the benefit of the doubt because they just started to rebuild.

The Royals have lost the benefit of the doubt.

And now that their season of promise is rapidly turning to ruin, I wonder just how long they're going to keep telling us that everything is all right.

Here is a team that is in free fall, loser of 18 of its last 21 games and 10 straight at home. Yet general manager Dayton Moore sounded almost defiant when he told the Kansas City Star last Thursday, “We’re not going to panic.”

One day later, Moore spoke glowingly of manager Ned Yost to FOXSports.com’s Jon Paul Morosi, saying that Yost was “the least of our problems.”

Really?

I seriously doubt that many people in Kansas City would be upset Wednesday if the Royals announced they were firing Yost.

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It goes without saying that Yost is not completely to blame for his team’s collapse; no manager ever is. But if the Royals were so wedded to Yost, they would have extended his contract last offseason. And now, as the losses mount, Yost’s frustration appears to be growing.

According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, Yost sounded exasperated Tuesday night when asked how players were being held accountable.

“What are you asking me to do?” Yost asked. “Take my belt off and spank them? Yell at them? Scream at them? What do you want? These kids, every day, we go through the process. We’re constantly talking about approach.

“Do we need to make changes? This can’t continue. Somewhere down the road, yeah, we’re going to have make some changes.”

Somewhere down the road? Sorry, the Royals can't wait that long.

They could release outfielder Jeff Francoeur, demote third baseman Mike Moustakas, fire one or both of their hitting coaches, make any number of smaller moves. But it sure appears that they also need to do something bigger, in part to mollify a fan base that last celebrated a playoff team in 1985.

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This was supposed to be the season, remember? Moore went all-in, trading for right-hander Ervin Santana, re-signing righty Jeremy Guthrie, giving up top outfield prospect Wil Myers to acquire righties James Shields and Wade Davis.

I applauded Moore for acting boldly. Some in the industry thought that he acted too soon. Whatever, Moore now needs to realize that his career, too, is at stake. The Royals have yet to produce a winning season since he took over on June 8, 2006. No active GM has a losing streak that long.

Is it still possible for the Royals to salvage their season and for Yost to save his job? Sure it is. I thought the Dodgers’ Don Mattingly was doomed a little more than a week ago, but he seemed to find his voice and now his team is playing better.

The Dodgers’ players, though, are more proven than the Royals’. And while Yost is in his 10th season as a manager, only once did he finish with a winning record. It would have been twice, but the Brewers fired him with 12 games left in the 2008 season, fearing that Yost was about to cost them a spot in the playoffs.

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The Brewers rallied to reach the postseason, but firing the manager often is too easy an answer, failing to produce the desired results. If Moore wants to keep Yost — if he truly believes that Yost is the solution — then that is his GM’s prerogative. But at some point, Moore needs to figure out why some of the Royals’ young players are regressing, why the offense is one of the worst in the AL, why the team overall can’t seem to get out of its own way.

I don’t buy the easy narrative that the Royals’ problems date to Yost pulling Shields with a 1-0 lead after eight innings on May 6, resulting in a 2-1 loss to the White Sox. The Mariners’ Eric Wedge did virtually the same thing with Felix Hernandez only two days later, but his closer earned the save and hardly anyone said a word.

Then again, we can play this game forever. This isn’t the manager’s fault. That isn’t the manager’s fault. We’re all in this together. Everyone is to blame.

In the end, it’s all just another form of denial. And the Royals have been in denial for too long.


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/h...guthrie-052813

No he won't.

Hopefully they look into the Texas front office for the next GM.

Jean Segura > Escobar, Cain and 1/2 of Shields?

Cleveland. Or perhaps Cinci.

Jean Segura will be the best player in both Greinke trade. On the Shields part 2 years of him not worth Wil Myers. In 2 years Royal fans will be bitter at this trade.

Quit posting in Royals threads douche. Better yet go kill yourself.

Always in the love the minor leaguers.

KK hammering Royals managers from Muser to Ned. Very amusing, in a sad, awful deadly accident kind of way....

Anyone hear those comments by the hitting coach about the Royals and home runs?
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Ok, so let's say Yost gets fired. Who is the guy? Who comes in here and turns this shit storm around? I mean, it's hard to defend Yost at this point, but who do you bring in?

Frank White? George Brett? I have no idea.

They burnt the Frank White bridge and George Brett is not a manager ... at most a hitting coach.


I still think we have to change the minor league coaches. We have too many guys with terrible basics.

Ozzie Guillen.

Starting over yet agin. Distressing.

If Moore remains to make the hire, my money's on Mike Jirschele.

And no, I don't think he'll make much difference.

I did some digging and found a few names:

Ryne Sandberg
Dave Righetti

Can we talk Lou Piniella out of retirement? LMAO

F that.

1) He's a former White Sox manager. F that.

2) He's an old school/run/play it right/ignore the stats and pay attention to what your eyes see guy. The last thing the Royals need.

Bring back Seitzer to finish off the year. If he does well, give him another year

The #1 thing the Royals need is accountability. He would bring that. Doesn't have to be him, but it has to be someone like that.

Someone asked for this earlier:

Baseball Pro piece on Eric Hosmer

(Warning: Sub needed)

The Hal McRae meltdown is still funny 20 years later.

care to summarize?

Swing is much noisier. Much more dramatic "load." Balance sucks. Bigger leg kick.

Trouble with MLB average fastballs.

It's not great news.

Best thing is that his problems with fastballs are more about mechanics than bat speed.

well no ****ing shit you dildo

my christ

The Royals will NEVER re-hire somebody they've burned a bridge with. I can't think of a single time that's happened. McRae, John Wathan, Seitzer, none of these guys will ever be hired by the Royals again. I wouldn't want ANY of the Royals former managers that are still of an age and health to be managing. No Boone, Pena, Muser, Bell, etc.

If Mattingly gets fired by the Dodgers, he would be interesting.

But we'll probably end up with another guy like Buddy Bell. Career loser.

Hud's coming on 610 at 5pm to talk Royals.
I guess the front office told him to polish the turd today.

Clint Hurdle, Royals future manager.

I love Segura - especially if I'm a Brewers fan - but I'm going to need see a longer sample size from Segura, too.

Right now he looks like a Trout-level superstar, but he also is sporting a .395 BABIP and 19 percent HR/FB ratio. I mean, this is a guy whose career high for HR was previously 10 (at A ball).

He is OPSing more than 150 points higher as a major leaguer than he ever did as a rookie. Maybe things just clicked (Sal Perez in KC is an example of a guy hitting at a higher level than he displayed in the minors). Or maybe Braun let him borrow some leftovers. IDK.

http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/m...5&feedID=11359

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – Near the top of the frustration list for Kansas City Royals fans is the complete lack of power from the team's lineup over the last two years.

The Royals finished tied for last in 2012 in home runs with just 131, and perhaps not coincidentally, they were 12th in runs scored.

So, manager Ned Yost decided a switch in hitting philosophy was in order. Out went hitting coach Kevin Seitzer. In came hitting coaches Jack Maloof and Andre Davis.

And Yost suggested one reason behind the change was the need to get the most power out of the Royals' young hitters. Yost also proclaimed that Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas, Sal Perez, and Lorenzo Cain all seemed capable of hitting 20 or more homers.

So far, however, the Royals, in terms of power, appear to be going in reverse. Hosmer, Perez and Cain each are stuck on one home run, and it's almost June. Moustakas has four homers, but is hitting in the .170s.

The Royals are dead last in home runs in the American League with just 28, and are 13th in runs scored. They have hit just two homers since May 14 – both by 39-year-old backup infielder Miguel Tejada.

The Royals also are 14th in the league in walks.

According to Maloof, however, don't expect the power numbers to change, a declaration that likely won't sit well with frustrated Royals fans.

Maloof has conceded, like many Royals hitting coaches before him, that hitting in Kauffman Stadium simply isn't conducive to home runs, at least not for the home team.

"There is just no reward here (for us) to try and hit home runs," Maloof said. "We try to stay down on the ball, be more line-drive oriented, and do more situational hitting at least through the first two or three rounds (at home) here. That's why I'm not overly concerned because I think we'll lead the league in fewest home runs again this year. We don't have a 40-homer guy in the middle of the lineup.

"We've got kids. Billy Butler is a doubles machine. No one has told me he is a home run hitting guy. If we try to do it too much, we'll get ourselves in trouble. Same thing with Alex (Gordon). They'll hit home runs on the road, and yes, they'll hit some here. They have. But the risk for them to go out and hit a home run in one of 80 at-bats, the reward isn't great enough.

"Baltimore? Better reward. I'm not using it as an excuse. But it is a mindset."

Of course, the counter argument is obvious: Other teams seem to come into spacious Kauffman Stadium and have no trouble hitting home runs. Yost mentioned as much after letting Seitzer go last fall.

In fact, opponents have hit nearly three times as many home runs (32-11) this season at Kauffman Stadium as the Royals.

Maloof has an explanation for that.

"Here's the thing: Other teams come in here from Anaheim or wherever and they have their swing already down," Maloof said. "This park doesn't even enter into their minds when they hit here. They have their swings, the same swings, because it pays dividends for them at home.

"What we need to do with our players, like we were in April, is be better at situational hitting. We were over 60 percent then in getting guys in from third. We're under 50 percent now. We just need to execute better. In this ballpark, go ahead and hit the ball in play (with guys on third and less than two outs). You're not going to hit a home run anyway, for the most part.

"I'm not making excuses. We play half of our games here. I'm just talking about the ability for a ball to carry out here the way it would in Anaheim or Philadelphia or in Baltimore, where we have hit home runs."

The absence of power, Maloof said, has more to do with youth than ability.

"I understand what Kansas City fans and baseball fans have been through here," he said. "They want winning. In spring training and in April, expectations were high. I get that. But again, we're looking at players whether it's Sal Perez or Lorenzo Cain or Eric Hosmer or Mike Moustakas – they don't have much service time. Not an excuse, but it's a fact.

"We've got Billy and Alex who have some RBIs (and homers), but we need more contributions."

Ultimately, though, Maloof knows fans are looking for scapegoats. And when an offense is riding a season-long slump, it's easy to find one – the hitting coach.

"I understand what fans' frustrations are," he said. "But we're doing the best we can. If I get too caught up with what fans are saying, I wouldn't sleep at night. I know the history of this team losing 90 games. But we have to keep the players from getting down and pressing. Don't get caught up in all that.

"We have to stay positive, and there's a lot of baseball left."

You can follow Jeffrey Flanagan on Twitter at @jflanagankc or email him at jeffreyflanagan6@gmail.com.


****ing bullshit. **** you Maloof, you idiot.

a good hitting coach fixes these, right? where do we get one of those again?

You know what sucks?

You know who worked with Hosmer as primary hitting coaches when he was crushing it in the minors? Jack Maloof and Andre David.

They were brought in to "fix" all the wrong things Seitzer had taught everyone, but especially Hosmer and Francoeur.

If they can't get him to go back to the approach that had him hitting lasers to all fields and punishing pitchers dumb enough to bring a fastball middle-in, I don't know what it's going to take.

ugh. thanks for all the reasons to be optimistic.

What a steaming pile of horseshit. They act like this is the goddamn Astrodome, and that Moose and Hos and Sal etc. are rookies. Plus, it's not like Moose and Hos are hitting balls to the warning track that would go out of other stadiums.

JFC, this franchise.

That interview with Maloof is mind-numbingly stupid, and what little hope I had left just went down the toilet. Rany is having a field day with this on Twitter.

He is crushing them.

Oh, and there's that "situational hitting" bullshit again. Just as JoPo predicted a week ago: Here come "the little things."

**** this ****ing franchise. "Oh, we can't compete because we're small market." "Oh, we can't hit home runs because our park is too big." "Oh, we pride ourselves in doing the little things, like make productive outs." Great, here's your participation ribbon from Joe Torre.

What a loser mentality.

Ned Singing "Whip It" from 610 Sports: