We can probably lure him away form the 49ers.

This brings up a TCU question. Why would KU, ISU, KSU, andy Baylor agree to let in TCU? If the realignment to 4 16s happens, TCU would possibly have been behind all of you in the pecking order. Now they may be ahead of all of you. Also, you just let another Texas team into your conference, and you won't be able to beat them out for head-to-head recruits, as you ceded to them your competitive advantage.

I think the line of thinking there was conference stability.

I'd love to have a winning football program. I'm aware it's the "important" sport. I'll take what I can get right now though. Which is a secondary team that has exciting games, winning seasons, conference championships, and is in the national title conversation nearly every single year.

I know KU was picked to finish last in the conference this year in football, but at least we've got some company right now. Hopefully a good head coach hire will get the football program headed in the right direction. We'll just have to wait and see. Until then, we'll just have to tide ourselves over with our secondary team.

Just to piss Mizzou off, same reason the conference does anything.

Nobody talks about "premier" and secondary sports when CBB is on ESPN all the time during the winter. The only people who constantly bring that up are the MU fans on CP.

Well, since the realignment to 4 16-team conferences is an internet pipe dream that will never happen, it is not a concern.

And only in the past few years, ever since that one game against Memphis... weird.

Algorithm time.

It will need secondary sport modifications.

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion.

The PAC has expanded to 12 and was close to expanding to 16.
The SEC has expanded to 13 and appears ready to go to 14.
The B1G has expanded to 12 and would love to expand with ND.
The ACC has expanded to 14.

The 4 assumed superconferences have already expanded from 45 members to 51 members. That much we know. We also know that Missouri, West Virginia, and now Rutgers are seriously exploring options within those conferences. That could bring us to 54.

Now remember that Texas, Tech, OU, and oSu would like to go to the PAC. That's 58.

Notre Dame would be 59, and they would bring a partner which would make 60.

It is very easy to see a scenario involving a 16 team PAC, a 14 team B1G, a 16 team ACC, and a 14 team SEC within the next 12-24 months. If that happens, the SEC anf B1G round out their conferences with 2 more teams, and that's that.

I don't see any reasonable expansion to those four 16-team conferences where KU would have much to worry about.

My Wildcats are another story altogether, but we can only really play the hand we've been dealt.

Mostly because they can't compete, so the sport is insignificant. Let the Tigers have a good season, then it suddenly becomes relevant.

OU, oSu, Tex, and Tech to the PAC.
Cincy and Louisville to the ACC.
Mizzou, WVU, and TCU to the SEC.
Rutgers and Notre Dame to the B1G.

That leaves 2 spots in the B1G with BYU, KU, KSU, Baylor, UCONN, Boston College, South Florida, Central Florida, Boise State, and Iowa State trying to get a spot.

A wrench in those works would be if Rutgers and Mizzou went to the B1G, and WVU was the 14th in the SEC.

That would leave 1 spot in the B1G and 1 in the SEC. KU will not wind up in the SEC. They could easily be left out in that scenario.

Well, the flip side to that is when it's the ONLY THING YOU'VE GOT, you tend to value it more than others do. Sort of like Iowa and wrestling.

And ESPN would pimp bingo if they thought they'd make any money airing it.

This is true. We value it a lot.

Well, they don't because it doesn't. The point is that basketball is on national television a lot (not just ESPN) which means it's probably rather popular.

There's all sorts of stuff on ESPN that I don't give two shits about. At least basketball is a real sport - as opposed to shit like golf, racing and poker. I truly believe there's a large segment of the population that can be fairly easily programmed to like whatever ESPN thinks they should like.

LSU Chancellor says Mizzou would be a good fit.

http://theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/10...-panelist.html

As for the talk of Missouri becoming the SEC’s 14th member, Martin can “safely say” the college would be a good fit as a land-grant university near a large media market that would add prestige as an Association of American Universities member.

But Martin said there is no rush toward further growth as a “super conference,” especially because every decision has been “reactive” instead of based on a proper vision.

“In some ways the SEC is in the driver’s seat, but we’re not necessarily comfortable, because we’re not sure where we’re driving,” Martin said.

Martin said he believes stopping at 14 SEC teams is appropriate, rather than expanding to 16.

“I don’t see Texas following Texas A&M. I don’t see Oklahoma going anywhere without Oklahoma State,” he said.

MU should think about getting a strong football program if that's the case.

No doubt, but you can look at that two ways. Iowa is good at wrestling because they like it and have been successful at it, and success breeds further success.

I think that also holds true with KU BB, and of course gaining traction with Mizzou football and......um ladies softball?

But really, I think CBS is a bigger factor, or at least as big in College BB as ESPN. I don't think too many events rival "March Madness."

"Despite CBS' contract to carry the tournament until 2013, the NCAA had the option of ending the agreement after the 2010 championship. This led to speculation that ESPN would snag the rights to future tournament games[14] However, on April 22, 2010, the NCAA signed a 14-year agreement with CBS and Turner Broadcasting System worth more than $10.8 billion, allowing CBS to continue airing the entire regional finals through the national championship, with CBS and Turner splitting coverage of earlier rounds in the now 68-team field. After 2015, the regional finals, Final Four and national championship will alternate between CBS and TBS."

CBB is poised to grow even more with the NBA lockout imo.

An $11 billion deal for a single tournament isn't a bad start.

Ok, you got me here.

I love watching all of those things. I actually record the poker, and even watch the recordings more than once. :D

ESPN2 is the only place to catch NHRA drag racing, the fastest sport in the world, and I set on the edge of my seat watching golf.

College FB? Not so much, unless it is KU or K-State.

And really, that new deal led to the first time you could watch every tourney game on TV right? I'm not saying basketball is going to suddenly jump football in revenue because a) its not, b) its not and c) this is a football crazy country but there is still a ton of room for basketball revenue to grow. Live sports programming draws eyeballs consistently and your production cost for it is really just the rights fees. With more channels expanding to broadcasting live sports and the fact that it takes megabucks to get a good football game it really wouldn't surprise me to see some explosive growth in basketball coverage as time goes on and more coverage means more revenue.

What do you mean? People have different tastes?

Tune into Mizzou this weekend to see some hard hitting action vs ISU...

oh, wait

Word on the street too is that TCU's AD is s real ballbuster & def. wouldn't put up w shit or be a puppet to UT.

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Still doesn't mean anything to me, other than having to listen to my wife bitch because all the goddamn basketball games screw up her TV shows. :D

I certainly understand why you beakers like it so much. But as I have said before, I never ever ever cared about basketball. I never played it as a kid, I never watched it as a kid. Nobody in my family cares about it or watches it. I did, however, watch and play (albeit badly) football and baseball as a kid.

My memory is kind of fuzzy on that, but I used to buy a DTV package called "March Madness" and could always catch every game I wanted to see. I know it has changed now, maybe for the better because I don't think I had to pay for it last year.

For sure.
The poker craze has been phenominal, and watching it is almost as good as playing it, plus you get to keep your money!
The NHRA is dying, as it is mostly old farts like me that pay any attention to it. They have tried to involve the rice burner driving youth, but I am not sure how well that is working out.
Golf is on EVERY major network, including their own, so that speaks for itself.

Hopefully the KU game will be televised. I'd hate for your to miss a second of them getting the shit kicked out of them by [insert random opponent's name here].

That makes sense, and kind of ties into what we have been saying.

To be honest, KU was tied for second with K-State around my house, behind WSU. All three schools have a very rich basketball tradition, football not so much.

Bill Snyder changed some of that, as 2 out of 3 Ford F150s/Chevy Silvarados in the state of Kansas have had a purple and silver front tag for years now.

LMAO

Yeah, we're riding the coattails of Oklahoma all the way to another curbstomp on national TV.

It is on ESPN2 at 8 o'clock for some reason. :)

For some reason I suddenly remembered the student-faculty rugby game from Meaning of Life..... :evil:

By "single tournament", I assume you mean 14 years worth of tournaments.

I hope they rated it R. Woman and children should be warned.

Ignoring the fact that what you said has absolutely nothing to do with my post, I'm less than convinced that. TCU is going to waltz in and start throwing its weight around.

I still don't understand how ppl continue to just not get it. Missouri and karate fans claim nobody cares about basketball. This is simply untrue. If nobody cared about it there wouldnt be a multi billion dollar contract for it. The large difference is how money is allocated to tthe schools. Basketball, as it currently stands does not make much more for any given conference. Look, football is more popular but its not a dramatic difference like there is comparing college bball to baseball. If superconferences do come to fruition, and move to their own "division"...KU will get snatched up like that. It just might be a while away until there are superconferences. Basically ND will decide when this all happens, which is why i root for their failure

1. I haven't seen anyone, let alone a Mizzou or "karate" fan, claim that no one cares about basketball. A couple people have said that basketball is a secondary sport compared to football, which is true and everyone freely admits this.

2. Who do you think snatches up ku if it goes to superconferences? I think ku has a decent shot but I don't think it is a guarantee like you claim. You really only fit two conferences: PAC and Big Ten. PAC is probably a 50% chance, depending on if Texas could go without bringing a little brother. Big Ten seems like a 20-25% chance but they really would like to go East. ACC is a pipedream, it just doesn't work geographically.

dude. grab your rape whistles.

Obviously Karate University will snatch up KU. DUH!

lol

Pretty much.

I'm hopeful Mizzou does move to the SEC. Then all these dumbass arguments and the rivalry ends.

Plenty of people care about basketball, especially during the tournament. Nobody has said otherwise.

What people have said, and correctly at that, is that basketball has very little impact on the landscape of realignment. I don't know how you could argue otherwise.

The first 2 schools to move were Nebraska and Colorado. Basketball schools? I think not.

aTm went to the SEC. Basketball school?

TCU went to the Big East and now the Big XII. Basketball school?

Syracuse and Pitt were in the best basketball conference known to man. They left that conference for the sake of their football teams that were withering away in the Big East despite the fact that their basketball teams flourished.

Mizzou, Rutgers, and WVU are all being rumored to join new conferences. None of them are basketball schools.

If you think that this isn't all about football, its because you are choosing to ignore reality. The list above is almost comical in how obvious it is that basketball doesnt matter.

I know his posts are hard to read. I think he already knows all this is driven by FB and tries to explain it by saying that NCAA takes all the BBall profits away from schools unlike BCS. I'm not sure how correct he is.

No doubt. Verifiable proof that we're better and no one wants the other universities.

ROFL, and the circle starts again.

Mizzou is the one out shopping itself for the second year in a row. Many of us are anxious for it to happen, get it done already.

Ballsack.

Ok, now that did make me laugh coming from you. The last 37 times from ReRun were not funny.

Surpassing KU as the "Undisputed We Had Options" Champions of 2011.
:D

http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...nutswinger.gif

Swing from that ballsack big boy...

All this bullshit needs to end. And soon. Worthless, the lot of it.

Not yet. I want to Photoshop the SEC logo in place of the Bat Signal over Columbia first.

ROFL

LMAO

LMAO. Here are some mountains in the west.

http://www.mountainwestmicrosurgical...-mountains.jpg

ReeRun flew his SEC plane right over my house today. I gazed. Longingly.

So has the SEC extended and offer to Mizzou yet
waits for someone to take the bait

White text tends to work better for this.

K-State's home alternate:

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-s...s-t-shirts.png

Ballsack! Nobody wants us.

Holy shit man....I think everyone.....EVERYONE....understands what you've just said. Everyone has heard it each time a MU fan posts....we get it. If they don't get it, do they really belong in this thread?

Basketball is secondary. We got it. Football is like Jesus hanging with Zeus shooting basketball fans with a football gun.....basketball is like synchronized swimming on dry land.

I believe basketball funds all non-revenue spots.

ROFL

Post of the day

:clap:

What are you saying here? I'm confused.


:D

The whole "the NCAA stole basketball postseason revenue" argument is a decent one, but its not an end-all be-all argument. Yes, the basketball contract is huge, and yes it is not fair that basketball tournament revenue is taken and used to fund non-revenue sport championships with whatever is left redistributed to everyone in the NCAA while football money is grabbed by a few conferences. Yes, if it wasn't that way, basketball would become more relevant. However, football would still be king, by a long shot.

The football postseason plus the regular season combined produces a lot more than twice as much as the ncaa tournament. While the basketball regular season isn't very valuable except for a handful of schools, the football regular season is hugely important. So we're basically comparing basketball tournament vs all of football. So if you wave a magic wand and force football to start supporting some of the non-revenue sports, ncaa tournament money would still be dwarfed by football postseason money + football regular season money.

I wouldn't change things very much for KU.

This will be fun.


http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...ed/?tigerextra

Your's was just the last comment on TCU I saw & it really is more a reply to some talk Ive seen around that people think UT is happy they got another Texas school back in the fold as if they are going to block vote & follow UT, so my point was more mentioning that Ive heard that TCU isnt down with that at all.

Holy hell that's LMAO

MU is going to be that inventory they need.

You sarcasm not withstanding, if they expand their potential audience by 40% with the additions of aTm and Mizzou, pretty much.

Boise St possibly to the Big East? The article doesn't make it seem probable, but even the possibility makes about as much sense as basketball cleats.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...eed-persuading

Will the woman's softball coverage be regional, or conference wide?

Good grief with all this conference stuff. Just do away with the SEC, Big 12, 10 whatever and make 5 major conferences according to your location.

No need. There are going to be 4. This will lead to a playoff. Faces will be rocked.

I was only half sarcastic.

It's obviously why they're trying to expand, and I'm sure those execs know WTF they're doing.

What crap that is, it looks like basketball is secondary because the NCAA pockets all of the revenue to the NCAA tournament and then distributes it out to all of the NCAA schools.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...63L4FP20100422

The tournament alone looks like it makes as much as if you had 7-8 BCS football conferences.

I would not want to be seen in secondary cleats.

Did MU sell out homecoming yet?

Mike Alden interviewed at UNC.

damn..